* I read everything above and have demonstrated this bug only occurs on 10.4Fx by testing against this official version of Firefox 4 (not applicable for startup failure) - specify:

• This is a startup crash or failure to start (Y/N): N

• What steps are necessary to reproduce the bug? These must be reasonably reliable.

Start tenfourfox on a non english system

* Describe your processor, computer, operating system and any special things about your environment.

IMac Power PC G4 1,25Ghz

No localization is included into the package. I Try to replace en-en.jar by the official fr.jar in chrome directory but didn't work. I manage to change search engines, and dictionaries...

How could we localize tenfourfox ?

TenFourFox has slightly different strings than Firefox. It is localized in the same way, but needs certain additional translations. If people develop working JARs (remember that the chrome manifest must also be updated to reflect this), then I will accept them into the changesets. Obviously this is not something I can do myself, but I'll mark this Accepted just so that people know the issue is acknowledged.

Managed to make a working jar for french translation (joined) and a working chrome.manifest

The version can be localized with a standard firefox jar except

• branding folder
• updates.dtd located in the locale//mozapps/update/
• has a special localization in the locale/bowser/ folder

I hope it will help Victorien

And I forgot the dictionary files. The have to be put in the /MacOS/dictionaries/ folder.

Nice work! I'd like to get more people trying your version, so let me point some people here. If I changed this bug to French localization, would you be willing to be its owner and accept bug reports? I'll then spin off individual bugs for each translation that people can own.

I have a friend using a G4/7450 on Mac OS 10.4.11. I would like to point to him a ready TenFourFox in French. Since I don't use Mac OS X (I'm on GNU/Linux), I don't know what to do exactly to localize TenFourFox.

When I download "TenFourFox7450-4.0s.app.zip" and I extract the archive, then a folder "TenFourFox7450.app" is created. Do I only have to put files contained in "French Localization.zip" and dictionary files in their corresponding emplacement and compress again the folder "TenFourFox7450.app" in ZIP?

Thanks.

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Thanks ! it works well on a G5 2x2 10.5 ;-)

@classilla I think your idea is great.

@contact@jpfleury.net To build a french version of TenFourFox :

Uncompress French localization

Copy all file in

TenFourFox7450-4.0s.app/Contents/MacOs

Then copy dictionaries files in

TenFourFox7450-4.0s.app/Contents/MacOS/dictionaries/

Thanks a lot.

French versions of TenFourFox can be downloaded here : http://www.steekr.com/n/50-17/share/LNK13304d9048eb4ccb4/

For the french localization, everything is OK except the about box (wich display an error message).

May be a problem in instalaltion (I tried 3 times)... No way to create an .xpi ?

Hi, i need a german Version. Can you help me please?

Working on German. This will take a while, though, and I can't promise I'll get it done completely.

In addition to what narcoti...@gmail.com mentioned (thanks!), there seem to be some more files in locale/browser (as taken from German-Intel-FF) that don't work as expected in Ten4Fox.

Here is the "changeset" for the German localization. Looks good so far, but needs to be tested thoroughly.

Right-click on Ten4Fox.app to show package contents. Changeset includes:

• chrome.manifest (goes into MacOS, replaces original file)
• de.jar, de.manifest (they go into chrome)
• de-DE.aff, de-DE.dic (they go into dictionaries)

I need someone who is able to trigger the specific Ten4Fox update messages (manual download) to look at the line breaking which is very akward in the original. I can't test it in the browser too see if I got it right.

About the About box: I took the en-US version and translated line by line. It's very different from the FF version.

I think it's probably time we split this bug up, leaving issue 42 as a generic "translations wanted" bug, and then giving French and German their own issue numbers assigned to narcotix and chtrusch. Any objection?

Correction: About the About box: I took Cameron's en-US version and translated line by line. It's very different from the FF version. Sorry.

No objection. :-)

Okay. narcotix, any objection? I will point the bugs back here so that people can download the original pieces.

The other piece of the puzzle is automating installation. I think we should keep the "de facto" format we have here (lang.jar, lang.mainfest, lang-REGION.aff, lang-REGION.dic) so that we can create an installer (the installer would then, given a zip file, unzip it, copy the files over, and modify chrome.manifest). That bug is issue 61.

After working with the localized versions (under 10.4/G3 and 10.5/G4) for a while, it looks like localizing Ten4Fox is generally unproblematic. So, we should be seeing more localized versions soon. Firefox is very big in Europe; additional versions in (at least) Spanish, Dutch and Italian would make a huge difference. Ten4Fox is gaining popularity in German forums (heise.de, macnews.de etc.), and in comments, people are asking for a German version.

The only minor issue (in both German and French) I found is that the Help Menu has no spotlight box. This only concerns 10.5, obviously, and this box is useless anyway since there's no local help available for Ten4Fox. I hope this isn't too much of an issue because I don't have the slightest idea were to start looking to find a solution.

Screenshot depicting German Help Menu under 10.5 with missing Spotlight Box.

I have a pretty good idea where that is (not) coming from and yeah, you can't fix it from the localization angle. I don't use 10.5 -- does 3.6 or Camino have Spotlight there?

FF3.6 (en-US & de) and Camino have the Spotlight Box.

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TFF works now in german, but without Spotlight Search Field and all addons are in english.

Hm, localizations for add-ons are not part of the language pack. They're in the add-ons. How do we tell the add-ons the correct language? I looked around a bit but couldn't find anything. Additional entry in chrome.manifest or some other .manifest?

Hi, Here is a brand new French localization with minor corrections and the "aboutDialog" bug fix.

For the addon problem you have to change the "general.useragent.locale" in about:config

By default it is "en-US" for france, I change it for "fr"

Regards,

Excellent. narcotix, can you send me an E-mail so that I can add you and chtrusch as developers? For some reason your full address doesn't appear. Then I will add specific issues to track French and German.

Okay, so this useragent.locale change would have to be done by the locale installer, right?

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I'v created the french installer see issue #61.

And please skander....@gmail.com stop spamming me !

Sorry Narcoti...@gmail.com because i'm new :)

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[quote]For the addon problem you have to change the "general.useragent.locale" in about:config

By default it is "en-US" for france, I change it for "fr"[/quote]

Yes, it works. Now are addons in german Localization.

When I Install French Localization and fr.dic and fr.aff On tenfourfox . tenfourfox blocked didn't start and say this application is blocked and closed why ?

skander....@gmail.com : for French localization you can use french langpack see issue #61.

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In FF5, some strings have changed, e.g. Preferences>Privacy. I was hoping to re-use the 4.0 jar file because none of the UI changes that were promized in April have made it to FF5 (social websites stuff, home tab etc). But now I see it's probably safer to re-build the jar with the files from our localized Intel FF5 versions. I will make the German jar + installer app once FF5 final is out.

I loaded from http://www.steekr.com/n/50-17/share/LNK13304d9048eb4ccb4/ the french 4.0 version on my PPC PowerBook G4 running with 10.4. It works perfectly. The application keeps telling me to update to 4.02. Is there a french localized version coming? Many thanks for your effort.

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A french lcoale installer for 4.0.1 is available. See issue #61. The 4.0.2 will be available this weekend.

Someone apparently has done a [http://mozilla-russia.org/products/firefox/ Russian language pack for TenFourFox 4.0.1].

Do you mean http://www.unghost.ru/firefox/4.0/tenfourfox_ru.xpi? It doesn't do anything when I install it.

I have no coding abilities, but if you tell me (or give me a good guide) I could prepare an Spanish translation. Maybe using standard Firefox strings and changing them?

Give it german locale for TFF 6.0.1?

I'm planning to make the German langpack installer app for TFF 6 in the second week of September. If nothing goes wrong you should see it here (issue 61) by September 10. Sorry for the delay, I'm in the middle of a freelance project that consumes pretty much all of my time right now.

German langpack for TFF 6.0.1 is ready to download at issue 61.

i"d like to help translate tff to french, how can i help ? jarlock59@gmail.com

my e-mail is NOT jarlock but harlock59@gmail.com

I don't know if Narcotix is still working on it. In general, there's no translation work to be done because Firefox 6/French/Intel is already there. It's more a technical matter of making a working .jar file from the Intel version's omni.jar. The installer application (issue 61) for TFF4 can easily be modified for TFF6. If you like, I can email you the exact steps I use for the German version.

Hello, men, would you help me? I gonna make a Russian langpack, but I don't know which files containing text strings and how to open/modify them ...

If you read through issue 42 and issue 61 you'll find information how to do it. The files to make the .jar of are in the Intel version's omni.jar/chrome/[your language]/locale. I can also email you the exact steps I use to make the German version.

chtrusch, thank you, please, email me. I never do such things before, so I need a little help.

Chris, I'm going to promote you to contributor so you can control the issue attributes.

Cameron, can I force a line break in the About dialog? (if so, how?) I always end up with a box that's too wide and not high enough in German (our words have more syllables…), cutting into the Tigerfox's paws and tail.

Mmm, yes. Maybe try \n ? I don't remember if that will work in XUL, but I seem to remember using it in a Classilla prompt.

@ chtru...@web.de Could describe exact steps you use for localization. Since I don't remember how I did before, it would be easier for me (and for everybody who is translating TFF) Thanks,

\n doesn't seem to work. But it's just a slight cosmetic problem. I'll post the German 7.0 langpack installer anyway in issue 61 because I'm running out of time.

Here are the steps I use to localize TFF (as of TFF 7.0, now with installer for multiple TFF versions).

@Chtru thank you very much !

I noticed that, starting with TFF 5, in Preferences -> Privacy in the German localization some text is pushed towards (and slightly beyond) the right window border. In TFF 5 and 6, this was sort of tolerable and just a cosmetic bug, but in TFF 7, there are parts of words missing which is not tolerable.

I found a workaround for the time being by shortening one of the strings. See screenshots attached. Since the Preferences window keeps changing a lot, though, we might run into bigger problems in the future. For TFF 8, therefore, it would be nice to either fix the underlying problem, viz. changing the Preferences window width for the German locale if needed, or to fix whatever problem there is that makes some of the German localization strings suddenly not fit in the TFF version of the Preferences window.

So: Is there a way to define the width of the preferences window in the localization files? The French Preferences window is much wider than either the German or the English one (and therefore is luckily not affected by this right now), but I don't know if this is defined somewhere or calculated automatically.

Also, is there a way to make the drop-down menus shorter? They became considerably wider in TFF 7 (for no apparent reason), which adds to the problem.

Finally, it should be checked if this problem is in the German Intel Firefox 7, and if so, what they do about it. I found no Bugzilla bug report about this.

Firefox Intel/German has the same problem. I'll file a bug over there and will use the workaround for TFF 8 if they haven't fixed it by then.

Attached screenshots of German Intel-FF 6 & 7 showing the exact same behavior, including the longer dropdown menus. How this could have slipped through beta testing/quality control is beyond me.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684286

Marking rolling since we are using this as a tracking bug.

Has anybody talked to these guys? They are apparently working on an independent Japanese language pack.

http://blog.imachive.com/2011/12/tenfourfox-90_20.html

(demo, boku no nihongo wa warui desu kedo)

They're using the xpi method. It works generally, but requires a manual useragent.locale change and has no TFF customization (About box, branding strings, Update check etc).

I see. Maybe they can combine forces. I'm trying to find a contact address.

I wrote a comment in the blog entry.

Issue 128 has been merged into this issue.

We have a Chinese (zh-TW) translation in issue 128, which I've duped to this one.

Great!

This seems to work for TFF 9.0 if I manually set general.useragent.locale to zh-TW. I'm completely illiterate in Chinese and can't tell if everything works as it should. I guess this is „traditional Chinese“, right?.

Problems: It states „Firefox“ instead of TenFourFox in the browser window. Check for Updates doesn't work (XUL error).

I'd suggest, now that the ESR is out, we might think about a central download place for our 10.x localizations on Google Code, i.e. the German and French locale installers and the Chinese xpi, to make this more public and maybe get more people onboard.

I upload TenFourFox7450-100_zh-TWxpi.zip in here~

http://www.openfoundry.org/of/projects/1640/download

A very little modify writing in ReadMeFirst.txt.

Chris, I think this is the right idea, especially because we are running out of attachment space. Before posting them, which translations will we specifically support? What packs are ready for 10 ESR?

For 10.0, we have German so far.

Traditional Chinese 10.0 is there and looks very good to me, but the bugs mentioned in comment 73 (Update dialog and Firefox branding) are still standing.

French is there up to 8.0. I think I've got experience by now to attempt to make the French 10.0 installer in case Victorien has stopped working at it, but I'm not fluent enough in French, so it must be checked first before it's published outide issue 61. Demand is certainly there.

There were two people interested in making Spanish and Russian who sent me mails, but I never heard of them again.

Japanese xpi (9.0 only) isn't shippable; I contacted the developers but they don't seem to be interested in making it any more Tenfourfoxish or to contribute here. It's just the Firefox jar files transplanted to TFF with no additional strings or polish.

Regarding attachment space, I could delete most of the older German installer app versions since the 10.0 version contains all langpacks for 4 to 10 (in case someone needs to stay at an earlier version for whatever reason).

Let's clean the old versions then. I'll let you do that since I don't want to delete anything still of use by mistake. That's a shame about the Japanese translation; we have a pretty good one for Classilla.

ianian1979, can you address the issues Chris brought up in comment 73?

Large attachments from issues 42 & 61 have been archived due to attachment space restrictions and can be accessed here: http://tinyurl.com/tfflangpacks

To ~ TenFourFox group:

reply Comment 73 and 77 :

I am just a End-User, I am not a programmer. I wrote my questions on

http://forum.moztw.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=34467

(all are traditional Chinese language)

If I got the solution that I want. I wil try to fix some bugs like a "about firefox (about TenFourFox)" and so on...

Excuse me , my english level is not good.

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ianian1979, the branding strings are inside locale/branding/brand.dtd & brand.properties.

reply: Comment 80

Thanks you very much, I found files /branding/brand.dtd & brand.properties and modify them. and I found /mozapps/update/updates.dtd ,fix it. I wrote where I modify it in ReadMeFirst.txt by traditional Chinese language.

download here: TenFourFox7450-10.0_zh-TW20120204xpi.zip http://www.openfoundry.org/of/projects/1640/download

form Ian

Oddly, Google Code doesn't seem to be deleting them internally. I asked them for more space. We'll see what they do.

Yes, I still see the Undelete option.

Ian, thanks for your work! As fas as I can tell, in TenFourFox7450-10.0_zh-TW20120204xpi everything behaves as it should, meaning that we now have a working Trad. Chinese xpi :-) One minor cosmetic issue: Check for Updates… is still English, but then, I never tried editing baseMenueOverlay with Chinese characters, and can't tell if it works.

reply: Comment 83

I check the "Check for Updates" in here.

en-US.jar/chrome/en-US/locale/browser/baseMenuOverlay.dtd

but it ( ) is not exist in zh-TW.xpi source file. ( ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/10.0/mac/xpi/ ) I am not a moztw.org Translation core team. so I decide to not translate it. I am just end-user. so I try to cut, paste and copy the zh-tw xpi source. but I am not to create any new zh-tw Characters. if one day the zh-tw xpi source create and I find it , I will try to cut, paste and copy these zh-tw Characters.

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Ian, thanks for the explanation. Indeed, "Check for Updates…" doesn't exist in Firefox, it only exists in TenFourFox, as well as a few other strings, including text in the About dialog. Preferably, they should also be translated to the target language, as was done for French and German. That's the fun part: You can be creative. But if they stay English, that's fine with me, too, as long as the XUL works correctly.

If there is any demand for it I could do and/or check spanish localization.

Hi , reply comment 76 :

"French is there up to 8.0. I think I've got experience by now to attempt to make the French 10.0 installer in case Victorien has stopped working at it, but I'm not fluent enough in French, so it must be checked first before it's published outide issue 61. Demand is certainly there."

==> I'll be glad to help validating the French localized package, TFF 10.0.

KR.

I updated TenFourFoxG5-10.0.1_zh-TW_20120211xpi.zip in here.

http://www.openfoundry.org/of/projects/1640/download

I wrote where I Modified in the ReadMeFirst.txt .

Regarding comment 82, I just deleted two entire comments (with nonessential information) in issue 61 with attachments that still showed the option to 'undelete' them. Now that the comments are gone entirely, did this free up some attachment space? It should be +5 MB now.

Which ones? It looks about the same.

Comments 82 and 90 I guess, but I'm not sure anymore.

When 10.0.3 comes out, we will be essentially ceasing new development on 10 (just ESR builds after that) and continuing with unstable "as far as it goes" up to 16, assuming we get there. So now appears to be a good time to put international versions in the official downloads because it is unlikely strings will change for the life of 10 ESR. Assuming these are not version dependent (i.e., a patch set for 10.0.3 will still work on, say, 10.0.8), it looks like we have fr-FR, de-DE and zh-TW ready to go, and the locale installer?

If no strings change (incl. credits in the about dialog), the French & German langpacks can be used for all minor versions of TFF 10. The same should be true for Trad. Chinese.

Ian, zh-TW is still at 10.0.1 and doesn't work on 10.0.3. One could change em:version="10.0.1" to 10.0.3, but I don't know if it's possible to change it to more than one version or 10.0.x generic.

to Comment 94 (excuse me, I don't know your nickname)

I can't found firefox 10.0.3 zh_TW.xpi official source file in http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ OR ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ maybe waiting mozilla official release firefox 10.0.3 zh_TW.xpi ！？

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Ian, 10.0.3 hasn't been officially released, yet. If it's released, is it possible to make an xpi that works for all further releases of 10.0.x, not just 10.0.3? Thanks! Chris

To Chris (Comment 96)

excuse me , I can't understand.

My work is ~~~

download zh-TW.xpi from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/9.0/mac/xpi/ and modify it, to Compatible with TenFourFox7450-9.0.app

download zh-TW.xpi from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/10.0.1/mac/xpi/ and modify it, to Compatible with TenFourFoxG5-10.0.1.app

then,I found TenFourFoxG5-10.0.3.app.zip in this site, so I try to found zh-TW.xpi from ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/10.0.3/mac/xpi/

BUT! I can't found /10.0.3/mac/xpi/ in ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/ now !? I don't know What file can let me modify to Compatible with TenFourFoxG5-10.0.3.app !?

from Ian

See comment 92 for an explanation. For the 10.0.3 xpi, you'll probably have to wait until it's released.

Excuse me, I can't write something by English. My english level is not good.

SO I wrote it by Tranditional Chinese.

我以後可能無法隨時有機會或有時間注意tefourfox的版本更新,並且即時的製作出繁體中文語系檔案,

I..after..maybe..no time..no chance..follow tefourfox new version..quicky..and made zh_TW file.. quicky ,

所以會變成可遇不可求,但如果有時間有機會,那就做一個算一個.

maybe (I can't translate it)..but if I have time and . chance .. (I can't translate it)..

---

http://translate.google.com.tw/

I later may not readily have the opportunity or time to note that tefourfox version updates, and real-time production out of the Traditional Chinese language file, it will become a goodly portion of luck, but if you have time have a chance,

then do a numerical one.

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Ian, I just realised that there will never be a Firefox 10.0.3, because FF is now at version 11. There probably will be a 10.0.3ERS version, but this may take a while, becaus eit doesn't seem to be in synch with the "normal" version (or TFF). You'll probably have to base you xpi for TFF 10.0.3 on Firefox 10.0ESR or Firefox 10.0.2.

10.0.3ers xpi is here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/10.0.3esr/mac/xpi/

I upload TenFourFoxG5and7450-10.0.3_zh-TWxpi.zip here~

http://www.openfoundry.org/of/projects/1640/download

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Ian, can you make an XPI for TFF 10.0.4? Or is it possible to make an XPI that works on all future TFF 10.0.x versions to save you a lot of work?

and for spanish?

If we have a Spanish native speaker here who can do it (or at least who volunteers to translate our few custom strings and the strings for the installer app [see issue 61]), then we'll have a Spanish version.

17 aurora is now available for the interest of localizers. It will replace our 10.x versions. You can consider the strings frozen.

Test installer for 17 posted in issue 61.

Localizing 17 in principle works exatly like 10. There's only one additional folder in the locale jar ("pdfviewer"). The new features (pdfjs, inspect element etc.) seem to work flawlessly. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704756 still hasn't been fixed in the German Firefox, so I fiexed it again in our localization.

Hello. I'm a native Spanish speaker and, reading the messsage from 106, I was wondering if i could contribuite to translate TenFourFox into Spanish. I'm also a Power PC user, but programming is not my main area.

A Spanish translation would be excellent.

You could either look at the Localization Wiki page http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/Localization how this is done and try it. Basically, we just need to put the Spanish Firefox/Intel language files into TenFourFox and then put this package into the Locale Installer.

Or, if you find this too technical or complicated, you could translate just one file with strings that are specific to TenFourFox (see attachment).

Received email yesterday with a request for a Russian installer. I could do this since I speak a little Russian and can read Cyrillic, but again (as with Spanish), I need a native speaker to translate the TenFourFox specific strings (see file attached to comment 109).

Native speaker of Spanish here, took the TFF-specific-strings.rtf and translated it to spanish. Attached file is now ready to see some action. Can't wait to get my Spanish translation of TenFourFox!

Great, thank you! I'll try to get the installer app done this week.

Thank you so much, I love the app, but it would be so much better if it were in my language!

Posted Spanish installer at issue 61.

Do you still need a Dutch translator?

Yes, we do. A Dutch localization would certainly be very welcome.

I can also translate to dutch. Or have you already finished translating?

There's no Dutch translation yet.

The only thing I'd need to make a Dutch langpack installer is the translated file with our custom strings (http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/issues/detail?id=61#c260), everything else comes fromm the Dutch version of Firefox.

Or, if you want to make the installer yourself, start here: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/Localization

Hi, I've just finished the asturian translation for TenFourFox (attached), but I could only test under G4.

Thank you!

For the website/download section, we need this text in Asturian:

TenFourFox speaks your language.

To install Asturian language support in TenFourFox 17.0.x, download this installer, unzip it, and double click the installer to begin.

Some minor things:

• The About dialog becomes too wide because the "Licensing information etc." line at the bottom has words that are too long. Can you shorten them so that the dialog isn't wider than the background image?
• There are buttons in the preferences cut off to the right. This is probably also in Firefox, so you could leave it at that, or shorten the bottom line "Camudar les preferencies…" and then submit this to Bugzilla. We've done this with a bugfix for the German version, and it was indeed upstreamed and is now in the official Firefox.
• The installer should be named 17.0.x, so that people know they can use it for any 17.0 version.

The problem with dialog preferences in macosx was solved in Asturian Firefox 22, but I know how to fix it (this can be usefull for the German version): Into the ISOCODE.jar file go to locale/browser/preferences/preferences.dtd and edit prefWinMinSize.styleMac for asturian I set "width: 55em; min-height: 40em;" where "55em" is the minimun size of the dialog.

I attach the new asturian installer and the asturian flag for the web site, and this are the translations for download section:

TenFourFox fala la to llingua.

Pa instalar la llingua asturiana en TenFourFox 17.0.x, baxa esti instalador, estráilu, y calca dos veces p'aniciar l'instalador.

Thank you.

If you want to make a better icon, here is the Asturian flag in svg format https://ast.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheru:Flag_of_Asturias_%28indoor%29.svg

Thank you, I guess the installer from comment 121 is ready to go live. The flag icon will do for now, especially for an installer that will typically only run once. For 24 I'll make an icon with the workflow I used for the other ones for consistency.

Thanks for the hint regarding the dialog width. May come in handy some day.

Are you going to update the download section on http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ with the Asturian installer, or you will wait for next stable realese? I like to know because I want to announce the Asturian translation of TenFourFox to the Asturian community, so if not I can host this first Asturian realease on our own servers.

Thank you.

Chris, if you're satisfied with it, I suppose we could run it now, since there's only a couple more versions to go of 17.

Yes, what I mentioned in comment 120 was fixed, so I'm satisfied.

I guess we should come up with some rules for 24 regarding how far we can deviate from TFF/en-US and the localized Firefox versions.

E.g. the dialog width fix for Asturian is very good, but we now have a preferences dialog that's much wider than usual. Mikelglez, did they fix this for later versions of Firefox the way you did, or did they shorten the strings?

Also, Cameron: Is it okay for translators to put their name in the About dialog the way Mikelglez did?

I haven't installed the translation, so I didn't notice. What does it look like?

As far as XUL deviations, for 17 and TenFourFox.next (22 or 24) it's not really critical since we're unlikely to have big swings from Firefox chrome. However, it might be a problem for Australis, so I would say we should discourage it except where necessary. I'm personally not greatly concerned about minor UI differences as long as they don't change functionality.

Alright, I think so, too.

Here's what Asturian looks like (screenshot). The wider prefs dialog is needed for the privacy tab.

I guess that's fine for the About dialog, as long as future ones that people want to add to their own translations follow a similar form. The wider pref dialog is acceptable.

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I think that the preferences dialog on Firefox was fixed for all languages. Asturian shows the long strings, that I have to short on 10.4Fox 17, but the dialog grows to show all content in Firefox 22 (I don't know on early versions). I don't have an Intel Mac to test it, but a friend made this shots of Firefox 22 in German and Asturian for me, you can see that the dialog shows the complete strings.

A Bugzilla bug would be more helpful; I can't find one, cursorily. If the patch is relatively minor, I would be willing to backport it to 17 for this purpose.

Indeed, TFF 22 behaves in the same way, the German pref pane is slightly wider than the English one (German test installer in issue 61), so we won't have to worry about this anymore. I don't think it's necessary to backport the general fix to 17, though, because Asturian is already fixed, and our other languages don't have the problem. I couldn't find a Bugzilla bug, either.

So what did we decide about Asturian? Are we shipping? I'm uploading 17.0.8 for testing, so the ship has sailed for source code patches, but if the installer has no dependencies on changing the core, it can be uploaded.

The installer can ship as-is.

OK. Go ahead and upload it according to your convention and I'll link it up once I have the disposition of 17.0.8 sorted out.

Done. Translated text for the website/download section is at comment 121.

Asturian is live.

Thank you! ;)

For 24, I need some new phrases translated into Finnish, French, Russian, Spanish and Swedish:

"…and all our localizers" [for Thank Yous in the About dialog] "TenFourFox does not support plugins for this content." "More information (in English)…"

and addtl. Russian: "To play, ensure QuickTime Enabler is installed, then right-click and select Open Media in QuickTime." "Warning: TenFourFox does not support plugins and disables them by default."

Here are the Finnish translations for item #140

"…and all our localizers" "…ja kaikki kotoistajamme"

"TenFourFox does not support plugins for this content." "TenFourFox ei tue liitännäisiä tälle sisältötyypille."

"More information (in English)…" "Lisätietoja (englanniksi)…"

Thanks! I'll make the Finnish installer next. I still need the lines from comment 140 in Russian, Spanish and Swedish.

Russian installer for 24 will be next – thanks Alex.

Localization progress for 24:

Asturian: mikelg...@softastur.org, can you do it? Finnish: done French: done German: done Italian: done Polish: assigned to aquarius...@gmail.com Russian: done Spanish: I need only three lines translated by a native speaker to make the installer, see http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/issues/detail?id=42#c140 . carlos...@gmail.com, can you do it? Swedish: dito, see http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/issues/detail?id=42#c140 . knez...@gmail.com, can you do it?

Sorry, been busy at work. Here is the translation:

"…y todos nuestros traductores" [for Thank Yous in the About dialog] "TenFourFox no soporta plugins para este contenido." "Más Información (en Inglés)…"

Thanks, Spanish will be the next installer I make. We're almost there.

Ok, I'll make the Asturian installer. Sorry, I haven't turned on mail alerts ;)

See issue 61. Again, please make sure it's ready by the end of December so that we can get it on Google Code and use their bandwidth instead.

Localizers, start your engines; 31 beta is available. This will be the next stable branch.

The localizaton process for 31 is pretty much the same as for 24 (see wiki). I'm not aware of any new custom strings (Cameron, please correct me if I'm mistaken), so we can start right away and make the new installers.

German: (me) Finnish: (me) French: grafiko…? Italian: mclc…? Polish: aquariu…? Russian: (me) Spanish: (me)

For 17 we used to have Swedish and Asturian also, but we still need some custom string to be translated for those (Knezze…? mikelg…?).

No, there are no new custom strings.

One change for 31: browser/chrome/[language]/locale/browser/browser.dtd may be missing Look for the correct line in 31 en-US to insert it; translations are in 24.

We're about two weeks away from launch. I'd like to have this finalized by Friday, June 18 for 31.

s/June/July

Updated custom strings for new localizations.

I'm willing to help with the Swedish translation. Just let me know what remains to be done.

We only need these three lines translated: "…and all our localizers" [for Thank Yous in the About dialog] "TenFourFox does not support plugins for this content." "More information (in English)…"

Hi, I've just finished the french translation for TenFourFox 38 (attached),

Best regards

Here is the German locale installer. Please test.

Localization was unspectacular so far. Some changes:

• All localization files have been moved from Mac OS to Resources in the application package.
• space constraints/truncated strings in the Prefs window are gone because of UI change (prefs moved to tab)
• Check for Updates… has bee moved to the Help menu; localization string remains in baseMenuOverlay.dtd.
• Addon Manager: Plugin section with warning about Plugin support is obsolete (
• plugins.dtd>

Cameron, do we still link to "More information…" about plugins anywhere?

Grafikoloco, thanks, looks good :-)

Since both French and German installers/localizations seem to work flawlessly, I think we can declare them finalized.

Work schedule for localizations TFF 38, prioritized according to download counts:

German: done (me) French: done (grafiko…) Spanish: me (this weekend) Italian: mcl...@gmail.com, can you make the installer? Russian: me (this/next weekend) Polish: aquarius...@gmail.com, can you make the installer? Finnish: me (next weekend)

Need any help with spanish? I can give a hand with the files, if there has been any change ...

Thanks, there are no changes in our localization strings, but you could install the localization and test it. I'm at it right now and will upload the installer later today.

Spanish locale installer for 38.

Italian langpack.

Considering the few changes for 38, I would suggest to update the localization guide in the wiki to make things easier for future localizers.

Russian Langpack for 38. I'll update the localization guide now.

Finnish Langpack for 38.

Work schedule:

German: done French: done, thanks grafiko… Spanish: done Italian: done, thanks mcl… Russian: done Polish: aquarius...@gmail.com, can you make the installer? Finnish: done

We need these two strings for Swedish and Asturian:

"…and all our localizers" [for Thank Yous in the About dialog] "TenFourFox does not support plugins for this content."

Can a native speaker of Swedish check if these translations are acceptable? "…och alla våra översättare" "TenFourFox inte stöder plugins för detta innehåll."

I'll make the Polish installer befor August 17. if aquarius... is unavailable.

"…and all our localizers" "..och till alla våra översättare"

"TenFourFox does not support plugins for this content." "TenFourFox stödjer inte tillägg för innehållet du försöker visa"

Sounds alot better :)

Knezzen, thak you. I've had a look at Swedish Firefox, and they call a plugin "insticksmodul", not "tilläg" (=add-on?). Is it acceptable to use the following?

TenFourFox stödjer inte insticksmodulen för innehållet du försöker visa.

Timetable note: localization paks need to be finalized by midnight August 5 so that I have enough time to incorporate them.

Here's Polish and Swedish (plus German again with two small copy&paste errors corrected in the installer script and in the copyright date/About dialog).

For Swedish, I went with:

"TenFourFox stödjer inte insticksmoduler för innehållet du försöker visa."

If the grammar of "insticksmodul" is wrong, please advise. Since we're running out of time (see comment 171) I opted for "real artist ship" rather than "perfectionist" in this case.

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Also, I found the 31 installer for Japanese. However, I can't update it to 38 because I'm completely illiterate in this language.

Hello, I corrected a small error in "about dialog" fr: "Tenfourfox free software is sponsored by Floodgap Systems" "Tenfourfox est un logiciel libre parrainé par Floodgap Systems".

Thank you to all the team for this big job.

Thanks, you left in the uncompressed Contents folder, I took the liberty to remove it, plus to remove the old versions to avoid confusion for Cameron.

Yes, thank you, I was just sent the archive ...

good Sunday

All 38 langpacks are uploaded. Thanks! See you on Github!

(I'll see about maintaining the ja-JP version myself since I have some working knowledge of Japanese, but we'll give those folks a chance to surface first.)

The grammar of "insticksmodul" is correct. Insticksmodul and tillägg has the same meaning when used for the english word "plugin", so either one works gramatically.

If the official Swedish FFX translation uses "insticksmodul", use that one.

[We're now at https://github.com/classilla/tenfourfox/issues/42]