Cell data fails after losing Wi-Fi connection [36907297]

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[AOSP] Version-4.2

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Description

er...@gmail.com

created issue #1

Mar 11, 2009 05:06PM

Unfortunately I cannot reproduce this problem reliably. But here's the
best description I can give:

Often I'll use the phone happily via WiFi at my house; then I'll leave my
house, and try to use the web browser, only to find nothing but an error to
the effect that the page is no longer available. I _think_ this is the
same error that I would see if I were someplace with no cell reception --
but whenever this happens, I have four bars, and am able to make calls just
fine. (And I can see the "3G" symbol at the top of the screen, too).

The only cure I know of is to reboot the phone.

This started happening after I received the R33 update; I don't think it
ever happened before that.

I'd guess this happens once every three days or so; I typically use the
phone many times per day, both with WiFi and without.

Comments

jb...@google.com <jb...@google.com> #2Mar 29, 2009 03:02PM

BenchmarkState.pause/resumeTiming() both need to be renamed. Maybe pause/resumeMeasurement(), together with runWithMeasurementDisabled {}

jb...@google.com <jb...@google.com> #3Apr 1, 2009 02:35AM

Note - runWithTimingDisabled's block parameter should have been labelled crossinline. Let's fix that when we rename the API.

er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #4May 6, 2009 04:03AM

Project: platform/frameworks/support
Branch: androidx-main
Author: Chris Craik <ccraik@google.com>
Link: https://android-review.googlesource.com/3460203

Deprecate runWithTimingDisabled in favor of runWithMeasurementDisabled

Expand for full commit details

Deprecate runWithTimingDisabled in favor of runWithMeasurementDisabled 
 
Bug: 389149423 
Fixes: 149979716 
Test: Existing / presubmit 
 
Opens up MicrobenchmarkScope since that's necessary to expose 
runWithMeasurementDisabled properly. Inline functions of a restricted 
superclass cannot be exposed by a subclass. 
 
Relnote: "Deprecate runWithTimingDisabled in favor of runWithMeasurementDisabled, which more clearly describes the behavior - all metrics are paused. Additionally, expose the MicrobenchmarkScope superclass since redeclaring the runWithMeasurementDisabled function to open access isn't possible, since it's inline." 
 
Change-Id: I9e23b0dfcff18f162ca0d2517734f3038870b59c

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Hash: f95ae3f3d30cb7486c27a0857856dbfd15920c3a
Date: Wed Jan 22 16:04:15 2025

jm...@gmail.com <jm...@gmail.com> #5May 6, 2009 04:10AM

Note that we didn't mark the block as crossinline since it breaks a few reasonable patterns like this, where a caller passes a (non-crossinline) inline function: https://cs.android.com/androidx/platform/frameworks/support/+/androidx-main:profileinstaller/profileinstaller-benchmark/src/androidTest/java/androidx/profileinstaller/benchmark/ProfileInstallerTranscodeBenchmark.kt;l=57;drc=f95ae3f3d30cb7486c27a0857856dbfd15920c3a

We didn't see a good reason to restrict the inline function to local returns.

jm...@gmail.com <jm...@gmail.com> #6May 6, 2009 04:12AM

The following release(s) address this bug.It is possible this bug has only been partially addressed:

androidx.benchmark:benchmark-common:1.4.0-alpha08
androidx.benchmark:benchmark-junit4:1.4.0-alpha08

er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #7May 29, 2009 03:04AM

I've been running 1.5 ("Cupcake") for a couple of days now, and since upgrading, I
haven't had this problem.

li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #8Jun 3, 2009 07:12AM

It happened just now...
However, I cannot dia a call out too!
So I have restore my G1 and reset connection and can dia out or connect to EDGE.

kr...@gmail.com <kr...@gmail.com> #9Jun 13, 2009 10:53PM

I am running an ADP1 and have experienced similar connection issues with every ADP1
firmware since 1.0. I am almost sure it only happens when I move out of WiFi range.

The typical case is like this:
1) I am connected to WiFi.
2) When I move out of WiFi range, the phone doesn't switch the data traffic to the
mobile network (the WiFi status icon disappears, but neither the GPRS nor 3G status
icons appear). I have a voice connection, but no data.

This workaround always works for me:
1) Switch ON the setting: Wirless controls -> Mobile networks -> Use only 2G
networks. This seems to reset the networking stack and I get a GPRS connection.
2) Switch the setting back to OFF and I get 3G connection.

Version information:
Model number:
Android Dev Phone 1
Firmware version:
1.5
Baseband version:
62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
Kernel version:
2.6.27-00392-g8312baf android-build@apa27 #72
Build number:
dream_devphone-userdebug 36903750.5 CRB21 147201 test-keys

kr...@gmail.com <kr...@gmail.com> #10Jun 20, 2009 01:01PM

A short update:

I just discovered the "Wi-Fi sleep policy" in the somewhat hidden "advanced" Wi-Fi
settings:

Settings -> Wireless Controls -> Wi-Fi settings -> Hit "Menu" and select "Advanced"
-> Wi-Fi Sleep Policy

I changed my setting from "Never when plugged in" to "When screen turns off". I
haven't had this problem after making the change. But of course: "Correlation does
not imply causation".

The naming of the options in the radio button list is a bit peculiar though, since
the options are not really mutually exclusive. (For example: What happens when screen
turns off with phone unplugged if "Never when plugged in" is selected? Does Wi-Fi
sleep?)

Additional thought: I use the excellent "NetCounter" app to keep track of my wireless
data use. It does run in the background. Perhaps it interferes? If the problem is
not solved now, my next debugging step would be to uninstall "NetCounter".

te...@torma.org <te...@torma.org> #11Aug 11, 2009 01:03PM

I have similar issue with my HTC Magic (on SFR France).

It seems that the problem appears if the phone is on Wi-Fi for some period, using
"Never" as Wi-Fi sleep policy.

If the phone has been on Wi-Fi for few hours, let's say six, it almost never switch
to 3G when leaving the Wi-Fi or toggling it off. Reboot helps, so does switching to
airplane mode and back, so does "use only 2G networks" and back.

It appears that "When screen turns off" as Wi-Fi sleep policy also helps because it
forces the phone back to 3G frequently enough.

I had the problem before I installed NetCounter, so it is not a factor.

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #12Aug 19, 2009 12:22PM

Any movement on this issue.
It's a very annoying issue that is affecting a lot of people.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1217904

b....@gmail.com <b....@gmail.com> #13Aug 27, 2009 07:04AM

The forum thread on

whirlpool.net.au contains a lot of information on this issue.
Please research and fix this.

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #14Aug 28, 2009 01:52PM

Same problem here - I just got my HTC Magic - I am with Vodafone Malta and the 3G
icon never appears.

kc...@gmail.com <kc...@gmail.com> #15Aug 31, 2009 12:44AM

I'm also seeing this issue (Magic on Vodafone AU).

After leaving wifi coverage and not having the phone switch correctly to mobile data,
it seems anything that resets the network stack/connection (reselecting the mobile
network, switching into/out of airplane mode) will resolve it until next time.

b....@gmail.com <b....@gmail.com> #16Aug 31, 2009 10:39AM

I'm having the same problem on my HTC Dream with cupcake. When leaving WiFi range, my
phone won't switch back to 3g, resulting in me having to reboot the phone. Incredibly
irritating!

fr...@gmail.com <fr...@gmail.com> #17Sep 2, 2009 07:05AM

Having the same issue with HTC Magic (cupcake) and operator Tele2 (Sweden). I have
very few additional apps installed. The workaround to go 2G-only and then back to 3G
fixes the problem without restart. Very annoying issue affecting me daily.

an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #18Sep 4, 2009 01:44AM

This also effects my HTC Hero on Vodafone AU. If I'm connected to WiFi and move out
of range the phone doesn't enable mobile internet. Toggling airplane mode generally
kicks it into life.

st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #19Sep 5, 2009 09:49AM

I have the same problem on HTC Magic Vodafone Australia.
Slow to connect with my home WiFi and when WiFi is turned off, the phone doesn't
re-connect to 3G

ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #20Sep 7, 2009 08:31AM

Yep, getting the same issue here. HTC Magic / Vodafone Australia.
It picks up WiFi with no problem, but when I leave WiFi range, it does not pick up
2G/3G. The same thing happens if I manually kill WiFi, no mobile network is picked up.

kv...@gmail.com <kv...@gmail.com> #21Sep 9, 2009 10:55AM

i've got the same problem with a htc branded magic on vodafone australia. on top of the
wifi to 3g switching issues described here, i find that the 3g radio will just drop and
won't come back up. only switching to airplane mode and back will bring it back up.

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #22Sep 15, 2009 10:41PM

HTC have claimed that this is fixed and it will be pushed out OTA?

Any updates from google on this? Has it been patched into the source tree or are HTC
making things up.

ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #23Sep 15, 2009 11:17PM

Yes, that's what HTC has told me too:

"Should you receive any update for your handset, kindly install it and observe if the
problem was resolved."

Note the "should"...

li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #24Sep 17, 2009 10:47AM

I confirm that after installing the lastest ROM for the HTC Hero, the problem has
indeed disappeared.

kv...@gmail.com <kv...@gmail.com> #25Sep 17, 2009 11:16AM

Installing the latest update for hero. .. what about the most of ppl here using the Magic?

kv...@gmail.com <kv...@gmail.com> #26Sep 17, 2009 11:17AM

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kv...@gmail.com <kv...@gmail.com> #27Sep 17, 2009 11:18AM

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ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #28Sep 17, 2009 11:28AM

No update as yet...

br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #29Sep 17, 2009 11:30AM

No update as yet...

ei...@gmail.com <ei...@gmail.com> #30Sep 17, 2009 12:28PM

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an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #31Sep 17, 2009 12:30PM

Do any know how to connect to 3G network in android Dev phone? or to set it up?
pls suggest me if you have any ideas.

thanks,,

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #32Sep 17, 2009 01:31PM

To connect to 3G you will need to find the APN settings for your network provider and
put them into your settings.

an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #33Sep 17, 2009 02:37PM

thanks cameron :)

ad...@gmail.com <ad...@gmail.com> #34Sep 21, 2009 02:05AM

I am using an HTC Hero on O2-Germany and have the same problem. Latest Android 1.5
ROM (Version 2.73.405.5) from HTC did not fix the problem for me. Still using the
flight mode off/on trick to get back 3G networking.

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #35Sep 21, 2009 03:23AM

Yeah, its still happening on the latest builds from 1.6

br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #36Sep 21, 2009 03:27AM

I can't get my HTC Magic (Vodafone AU) to reproduce the problem today. Predictabily
I discovered that while I was on my way to the Vodafone shop to complain. :-( I
connected to 3 different open wireless networks, then walked out of range and the 3G
connection came back.

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #37Sep 21, 2009 03:34AM

The problem only happens after several hours of uptime (or connection to wifi)

If you reboot, it will happily switch for the next maybe hour at least.

br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #38Sep 21, 2009 03:39AM

Ok so my uptime is 29hrs, and I might ahve had a few hours of being connected to my
home wireless last night ( I am not sure if the phone connected since I wasn't using it).

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #39Sep 21, 2009 03:41AM

Yeah, that issue only can be seen after some on-time on wifi...like...put your phone to
connect to a wifi and go to sleep...after 8h or some, get thewifi off...it won`t
connect to Edge/3g, unless you do some "tricks"....if you stay on wifi for a little
time, the issue cannot be seen lol

bs...@gmail.com <bs...@gmail.com> #40Sep 23, 2009 03:13AM

I'm still getting this issue on HTC Magic, Vodafone AU

I've had the phone since September 14, and got an over-the-air update when I turned
it on.

Whenever I leave my home WiFi network, 3G doesn't connect unless I use one of the
tricks mentioned in the whirlpool forum

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1217904.html

Any movement on this?

ad...@gmail.com <ad...@gmail.com> #41Sep 24, 2009 05:42AM

Latest build 2.73.405.5 (HTC Hero) does not solve the problem.
Not finding and switching on the mobile networks.
Even when the phone has been without connection to wifi.
I use to disconnect all the connections to 3G during night (and do not connect to wifi
neither); not possible to connect the 3G in the morning.
Network: Orange.CH

de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #42Sep 28, 2009 11:51AM

I'm also having this issue. HTC Magic/Vodefone/Australia. 3g (or 2g) often will not
come on after leaving a wifi connection. Toggling 2g/3g doesn't work. I have to go to
'Network Operators' and reselect Vodafone which seems to reset the connection.

I also find that it doesn't consistently connect to WIFI automatically as well.
Sometime I have to go to wifi settings and turn it 'Off' (as if it was working?) then
On again and it connects. Should I file a new issue for this?

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #43Sep 29, 2009 11:06AM

I experience this issue on an HTC Magic on Vodacom in South Africa. The phone
sometimes does not connect to the data network after leaving a Wifi zone. However,
this issue disappears if I select either "connect only to 2g networks" or "connect
only to 3g networks" in mobile networks settings. If I do so, it reconnects just fine.

gi...@gmail.com <gi...@gmail.com> #44Oct 1, 2009 11:08PM

I am another Australian effected by this. I am on the potus network and it only
happens when i come off from wifi. need to go into airline mode and out to get 3g
connection to turn on.

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #45Oct 2, 2009 06:12AM

Same problem here. Impossible to reconnect 2G/3G network.

HTC Hero Build 2.73.405.5
Vodafone Australia

Activation/Desactivation of plane mode seems to solve the problem.

li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #46Oct 2, 2009 10:42AM

In a previous comment (

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2207#c26 )
I wrote that the problem had disappeared after installing the latest ROM on my HTC Hero.
This is NOT true because the problem has reappeared. (It probably only worked for a
short while) because I wiped all data after the installation of the new ROM.

kr...@gmail.com <kr...@gmail.com> #47Oct 16, 2009 07:19PM

This seems to have been fixed in Donut. I have been running Donut on an ADP1 since it
came out and have not experienced this problem since.

jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #48Oct 16, 2009 11:26PM

I am running Donut on an ADP1 and am still experiencing the problem. In particular
when the phone sleeps, wifi turns off but it does not switch to 3G. So email syncing
and IM for example stop working.

na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #49Oct 28, 2009 10:44AM

I have this problem daily. Have Wifi on at home, leave home and have to toggle between
G2 and G3 to get it to work. Annoying!!

HTC Hero in Belgium on Proximus network, build 2.73.1100.5.

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #50Oct 28, 2009 11:01AM

Heres hoping something in 2.0 will finally fix this very annoying problem.
I am embarrassed to recommend this phone to friends because of this bug.

dr...@gmail.com <dr...@gmail.com> #51Nov 10, 2009 12:38PM

haveing same problem wored fine for 1 week than i put on a task manager
to close all aps when screen off after i put this on i had the wifi-3g problem
so i rest the phone to factory problem is still there

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #52Nov 10, 2009 01:30PM

happy 8 month birthday to the most annoying bug on this phone.

Would be good to get some feedback from the android team on this.

ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #53Nov 17, 2009 06:15PM

Rather than completely extricating this bug, it would be nice for the user to be able
to switch to "WiFi only" for data so that those of us without unlimited data plans
don't have to worry about our phones switching back to G3 and running up a thousand
dollar phone bill. I wasn't actually sure if this was intentional (2.0), but I admit,
it did ease my mind not having my phone switch back to G3 automatically. I understand
the inconvenience for other users; therefore, a choice of behavior should be
included. In my particular case, turning off WiFi restores G3 without problems.

sn...@gmail.com <sn...@gmail.com> #54Nov 19, 2009 02:37AM

I cannot use Wireless much since I do not have an access point around me and cannot
convert my laptop into an access point. I use 3G generally. But when I turn Mobile
Networrking off and after a while turn it on again, it does not connect saying service
is not available. To be able to connect I go into air plane mode and turn back to
normal mode. Like comment 48
FONIC (O2) Germany
HTC Hero Anrdoid 1.5 - Kernel 2.6.27 - Build 2.73

ad...@gmail.com <ad...@gmail.com> #55Nov 19, 2009 04:06PM

This is annoying...how do we fix this?

br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #56Nov 19, 2009 04:20PM

Whenever I turn Mobile Network on, if I have not been connected to 2G/3G in the past
hours it will fail ("Disconnected because service is unavailable"), regardless if I
have been on WiFi or not.

Entering and exiting "Airplane Mode" fixes this, as does toggling the "use only 2G
networks" option.

HTC Hero in Belgium on Proximus network, build 2.73.1100.5.

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #57Nov 19, 2009 11:19PM

ademla - the easiest workaround at the moment is to switch your phone into and out of
airplane mode.

It's very annoying but it works. What is crap is that you have to remember to do that
every time you leave wifi, so you can be walking around for hours before you check why
you dont have any new mail notifications to find 3G didn't turn on.

bs...@gmail.com <bs...@gmail.com> #58Nov 19, 2009 11:21PM

I'm finding I'm getting this issue much less frequently since the 1.6 Donut update.
It still happens, but maybe only once a week? The rest of the time it switches from
Wi-Fi to 3G flawlessly.

HTC Magic / Vodafone Australia / Firmware v1.6

ha...@gmail.com <ha...@gmail.com> #59Dec 28, 2009 12:39AM

Same on O2 in Czech republic - if it is longer time on Wi-Fi, it did not switch to
3G. So it is maybe not problem of carrier or phone, but combination of both factors,
because as I think, everybody have not this problem. After New Year Eve I will try to
call to hotline and ask them about some logs of phone´s activity on network and if I
will be successful (I hope, I can only hope :-D), I will post results here...

tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #60Jan 13, 2010 04:14AM

Nexus one has issues switching from WiFi to 3G and back.. Heck it has issue switching
from 3G to EDGE and then Back to 3G.

wa...@sbcglobal.net <wa...@sbcglobal.net> #61Jan 22, 2010 07:50PM

Experienced this numerous times. After using wifi, or while using wifi, I fail to
receive phone calls or text messages. Once restoring network activity by turning
phone off and on, text messages never show up.

bu...@gmail.com <bu...@gmail.com> #62Jan 25, 2010 01:43AM

Had the same issue only recently start. Used to be able to turn off wifi and auto
start on 3g and vice versa. All of a sudden htc hero would not automatically switch
from one to the other without reboot or airplane. Not sure if its related, but
happened not long after installing an auto task killer app. Just uninstalled the app
and it and seems to work ok now.

br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #63Jan 25, 2010 01:47AM

I don't seem to have this problem anymore - perhaps it was fixed in 1.6?

HTC Magic, 1.6, Vodafone Australia

ex...@gmail.com <ex...@gmail.com> #64Jan 25, 2010 05:12AM

Guys, I think we should be posting the manufacturer and model number of
our wireless modems too.. since could be an issue between the android
wireless drivers and chipset of the modem (since many different
manufacturers often use the same chipset in their modems).

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #65Feb 2, 2010 09:12AM

Same problem with: build 2.73.405.5 (HTC Hero) and O2-germany. Switching between
2G<->3G sometimes resolves the problem.

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #66Feb 2, 2010 09:22AM

ok, recently i switched to kagudroid 1.2.1 . its based on the 2.1 cyanogen sources.
the problem is not resolved yet.

after beeing on wifi the whole night, when leaving the house and loosing wifi
connection. the phone besides the very few first times after flushing, the phone
never conntects to 3g.
i always have to manually switch from 3g to 2g and back. that resolves the problem
always.

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #67Feb 4, 2010 11:33AM

I was having a similar issue on the Nexus One (Exetel HSPA (via Optus)), Australia. It
turns out that, after connecting to Wifi, it would continue to use the same DNS
settings that it received from DHCP. Ie. tcpdump revealed that it was attempting to
resolve domains using 192.168.0.1 - while connected to 3G.

By statically configuring an IP and setting the DNS to a public IP (eg. Google's
8.8.8.8 DNS), the issue has been resolved.

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #68Feb 4, 2010 05:12PM

Michaelgkoob, if you have adb (comes in the sdk) could you get a bug report via "adb
bugreport > mybug.txt" and attach it to this issue when you don't use your static ip/dns
workaround and have the problem? Capture the bug report as soon as you notice the
problem for best results.

Thx

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #69Feb 4, 2010 09:41PM

Is the entire dump necessary? I would be concerned about any personal information it would contain.

The symptoms of the bug are fairly clear from just a few sections.

After setting the Wifi DNS to 8.8.8.7 and 8.8.4.3 (which don't exist), then disabling wifi and turning 3g back on:

02-05 08:24:11.532 V/WifiStateTracker( 72): Static IP configuration succeeded
02-05 08:24:11.532 V/WifiStateTracker( 72): IP configuration: ipaddr 192.168.0.206 gateway 192.168.0.1 netmask
255.255.255.0 dns1 8.8.8.7 dns2 8.8.4.3 DHCP server 192.168.0.1 lease 259200 seconds
02-05 08:24:11.532 D/ConnectivityService( 72): adding dns 8.8.8.7 for WIFI
02-05 08:24:11.532 D/ConnectivityService( 72): adding dns 8.8.4.3 for WIFI
02-05 08:24:11.532 D/ConnectivityService( 72): adding dns 8.8.8.7 for WIFI
02-05 08:24:11.532 D/ConnectivityService( 72): adding dns 8.8.4.3 for WIFI

From system properties:

[dhcp.eth0.result]: [failed]
[dhcp.eth0.pid]: [3284]
[dhcp.eth0.reason]: [STOP]
[dhcp.eth0.dns1]: [8.8.8.7]
[dhcp.eth0.dns2]: [8.8.4.3]
[dhcp.eth0.dns3]: []
[dhcp.eth0.dns4]: []
[dhcp.eth0.ipaddress]: [192.168.0.8]
[dhcp.eth0.gateway]: [192.168.0.1]
[dhcp.eth0.mask]: [255.255.255.0]
[dhcp.eth0.leasetime]: [259200]
[dhcp.eth0.server]: [192.168.0.1]
[gsm.nitz.time]: [1265317935000]
[net.dns1]: [8.8.8.7]
[gsm.network.type]: [UMTS]
[net.gprs.http-proxy]: []
[net.rmnet0.dns1]: [220.233.0.3]
[net.rmnet0.dns2]: [220.233.0.4]
[

net.rmnet0.gw]: [115.70.x.x]
...
[net.dns2]: [8.8.4.3]

Firstly, why are those DNS settings listed under "dhcp" when it was statically set? Secondly, if static DNS is shown, why
does it show the DHCP-issued IP and not the statically configured one (.206)? Finally, why is it getting a DHCP offer when it
simply discards the result?

The main problem is that the global DNS setting, net.dns1 and net.dns2 are changed to the wifi settings when wifi is enabled,
but NOT changed to 3g settings when 3g is enabled. Hence, unless the wifi is configured to use a public DNS server (and not
configured to use the private gateway), then all domain resolutions will fail and 3g is almost unusable.

Static configuration was used for simplicity, the behaviour is the same when the DNS is set by DHCP.

I must also ask: why are there no DNS settings for 3g connections? Some people have tried to tell me that I'm "wrong" and
that domains are resolved over a proxy - there is no proxy configured and tcpdump shows otherwise. Attempts to configure a
proxy resulted in no change. After using wifi with DHCP then switching back to 3g:

19:52:20.750823 IP 115.70.x.x.45065 > 192.168.0.1.domain: 43918+ A?

android.clients.google.com. (44)

It is very clearly trying to resolve the domain using a private IP.

Is there any other important information from the dump?

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #70Feb 4, 2010 09:54PM

No, the entire dump isn't necessary. Thanks for all the info - the statement it
happens on dhcp saved us a roundtrip..

I suspect the wifi module is just reusing the dhcp system props it would normally
use. I wouldn't read too much into it.

You do have dns settings for your 3g connection - the net.rmnet0.dns* are your
cellular dns settings - they should have been copied to net.dns* when you made the
transition.

This is the first I've heard of the dns settings not getting switched to 3g. Something
strange is going on in your case. Can you grab the ConnectivityService,
WifiStateTracker and MobileDataStateTracker logs when you switch wifi->3g? Also,
can you include any other net.* properties?

Thanks

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #71Feb 4, 2010 10:04PM

It appears that I have found the problem. Since there is no button to simply turn off
data connections (a missing feature, perhaps?), I installed a widget to do this -
"Toggle Data Widget" from Market. It appears that the method used by this widget was
not copying over the dns settings. This suggests to me that turning on/off the data
connection is less trivial than it should be...

Anyway, I shall contact the author. Thank you for your assistance.

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #72Feb 4, 2010 10:08PM

No worries.

You wanted all data off? The ApnDroid does a fine job of turning off 3g data by
reversably clobbering your APN data. Highly recommended until a real API is available
for this.

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #73Feb 4, 2010 10:12PM

Yep, all data off seems to increase battery life (marginally).

I have emailed the author. If his widget cannot be fixed I shall check it out.

Thanks again.

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #74Feb 4, 2010 10:40PM

FYI

clobbering the dns will result in the radio keeping a data connection that is useless
(unless you have some hardcoded ip addrs). Clobbering the APN will cause us to fail
setting up the data connection and save more power.

zy...@gmail.com <zy...@gmail.com> #75Feb 8, 2010 09:09PM

Same here. Android 2.1 sources. Was the same on Stock 1.5 android also. Switching 2G/3G off and on (vs
flightmode) solves the problem, and I'm able to reconnect to 2G/3G after using WIFI.

j....@gmail.com <j....@gmail.com> #76Feb 9, 2010 01:22PM

I can also confirm that this is still an issue on my Nexus One (2.1). I also had the
same issue with my ADP1. I cannot believe that it hasn't been resolved yet.

I live in Sweden. If you need any debug-information at all, I'm happy to help. I
really want this fixed.

fu...@googlemail.com <fu...@googlemail.com> #77Feb 10, 2010 01:47PM

Don't know if this will help anyone but I had the same problem with my HTC Hero.
I'm on Tesco (O2) in the UK. I don't know how, but the APN setting was altered and
this stopped me from getting onto Mobile Internet.

me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #78Feb 11, 2010 04:06PM

I have this same issue on my Nexus One. Fix it guys. I don't want to have to got to
the settings menu everytime I enter/exit a building.

to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #79Feb 11, 2010 09:13PM

As a work-around, that gives at least me some peace of mind back, is to turn off/on
airplane mode. I'm incredibly lazy so a little app ("Autodis") from market does this
job for me. I'm fine with that until they'll release and Android that don't know this
"bug" anymore. meshua.

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #80Feb 12, 2010 01:15AM

I am the author of Toggle Data Widget. I have owned a HTC dream, a HTC magic and now I
have a Nexus One. I have only started experiencing the issue with my Nexus One. It
doesn't sound like this issue is a bug with my application though I will try to modify
it as a work around for this issue. Is copying the DNS manually recommended if the OS
is meant to do this automatically?

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #81Feb 12, 2010 09:26AM

I have the same problem on Nexus One with Build ERE27. This happens very consistently
when I get disconnected from my WiFi and the phone tries to go automatically into
mobile data mode.
If the APN at the time is not set or is incorrect the problem occurs. Only restart
helps at that point, though.

This is incredibly annoying, because switching or changing the APN does not seem to
help in any way.

PS: This would not be necessary, if the phone had a function to disable all data
connectivity using GSM networks.

du...@gmail.com <du...@gmail.com> #82Feb 16, 2010 07:41PM

I saw this just today on a Nexus One, Build ERE36
I had to power the phone off and on to restore 3G/2G connectivity. Going to airplane
mode and back did not work. I did not try re-entering the wi-fi network I had walked
away from.

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #83Feb 16, 2010 08:07PM

Anybody have a bug report? Adding to this saying "me too" doesn't help explain what's
going on. Download the sdk and use "adb bugreport > mybug.txt" If you pull out any
ConnectiivtyManager log lines and the system properties it would be good - maybe the
Radio Log too.

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #84Feb 16, 2010 11:04PM

I'm getting this after updating.

It's no longer a DNS issue, the data connection icon is simply not appearing at all.
Fortunately switching it between 2G and 3G seems to resolve it, most of the time.

du...@gmail.com <du...@gmail.com> #85Feb 17, 2010 02:52PM

I have this problem with my nexus, had it with HERO too.

oo...@gmail.com <oo...@gmail.com> #86Feb 18, 2010 01:24PM

I've got same issue but it only appears when i've the screen locked. When i
manualy switching wifi to 3g it works correctly.

ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #87Feb 22, 2010 08:25AM

i got same problem on my nexus one.
After disconnecting wifi, 3G connection can't work!!!
Only way to recover 3G connection is reboot!!!(so stupid)...

Google please solve this issue...this is unacceptable to appear in so-call
smartphone/superphone! (my old Nokia N78 even better!!!...)

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #88Feb 22, 2010 04:14PM

Bug report?

Repro steps?

Does it always fail to find 3g after you leave wifi?

Half the people who report this turn out to be using something that corrupts their
APN settings - the other half don't respond to queries. Without more info or an
ability to reproduce this we can't fix it.

R

ms...@google.com <ms...@google.com> #89Feb 22, 2010 04:39PM

I am not runnning anything that touches APN settings, pretty vanilla Android. Yet, I
have this issue. The problem is, this issue manifests itself when _leaving_ wifi =>
not at the computer, so it's a bit hard to get a debug shell!

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #90Feb 22, 2010 05:01PM

Understood. Just please understand that if nobody can give any info it's not going to
get any better.. The only bug reports we've received about this have been explained
as user-error and we cannot repro it however we try. We need info to move forward
- we're missing some key diff between your experiences and our tests.. AP type,
apps, mobile network, apn settings, phase of the moon.. something

Can you forget the wifi that's at your computer and repro it using some other wifi (go
to work/school and access their wifi and then return home to your computer with the
problem occuring and get a bug report)?

Any help would be appreciated.

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #91Feb 22, 2010 05:33PM

Then can anyone implement functionality to shutdown network interfaces. I believe
ifconfig rmnet0 up/ifconfig rmnet0 down functionality is not that hard to add?

(I would do it myself, but my work contract prohibits contributing to OSS)

oo...@gmail.com <oo...@gmail.com> #92Feb 22, 2010 05:58PM

I solved my problem ( i had a problem with wifi/3g switching only in standby
mode [locked screen]) by doing hard reset and NOT installing Adanced
Taskiller and NetCounter from market.

The issue doesn't appear since i did that.

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #93Feb 22, 2010 06:29PM

As for disabling a network interface, yes - that's a commonly requested feature that
should be added at some point.

Thanks for the info about Advanced Taskiller and NetCounter - I can try repro'ing with
those apps installed. Do you think there could be anything in particular about your
configs/use of those apps that may be important for repro'ing this bug?

oo...@gmail.com <oo...@gmail.com> #94Feb 22, 2010 06:49PM

I suppose that taskiller with the first use kill some procces which is responsible
for switching between 3g and wifi. About NetCounter i didn't install it just for
safety (i heard opinions that it may cause the problem), but as i can tell
NetTraffic seems to work well.

...but as I said before i only suppose ;/

du...@gmail.com <du...@gmail.com> #95Feb 25, 2010 10:40AM

rgreenw...@google.com: Thanks for showing interest in this issue and for your help.
But I can't believe that you can't reproduce this problem as it occurs a couple times
on a day and guaranteed after a good nights sleep with it being connected to wifi
(charging at the same time)

I have a Nexus One TaskPanel and NetCounter are installed but had the same problem
when testing a clean vanilla install.

The phone is connected to the 3g network often with full connection, but the 3G
symbol doesn't appear if I don't switch to airplane mode and back, to 2g only and
back, reboot the phone. If I do that, it gets connected within seconds.

In the settings I have selected "never" in wi-fi sleep policy, network is WPA/WPA2
PSK secured, data roaming is off, one APN.

Can't think of anything else relevant other then the problem occurs when it has been
connected to the wifi for a longer period. If I turn off the wifi after a shorter
period <1h <2-3h? it switches back to 3g without problems.

Also Had this problem on my Hero with 1.5.

Please let me know if you have questions about my setup or want me to try something.
This is a major problem for me and I would really like to see it resolved.

na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #96Feb 25, 2010 10:47AM

I am currently running a stock ROM on HTC Hero, and regardless of Netcounter or
Taskiller (I don't have these installed), the problem always reappears. It may seem
as the problem has disappeared if you uninstall these apps and reboot, but after a
while it reappears again.

Mobile provider: 3G, Proximus, Belgium, "Always on" mobile setting, one APN
Wireless: network WEP, "never" sleep policy

Can always restore connection after switching to 2G and back to 3G.

li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #97Feb 26, 2010 09:50AM

After reading comment 95 I decided to uninstall Advanced Task Killer and NetCounter.
After doing that the problem hasn't happened again.

oo...@gmail.com <oo...@gmail.com> #98Feb 27, 2010 01:16AM

Recently i've noticed another thing (or the main one) that could cause the
problem.

go to: menu>Settings>Wireless Controls>Mobile Network Settings>Enable
Always-On Mobile Data

and make sure this one is checked!

If you have it selected, or selecting it doesn't solve the problem try to do hard
reset (if you are doing backup, DONT backup your settings)

It should help.

wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #99Mar 1, 2010 02:48PM

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wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #100Mar 1, 2010 03:27PM

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wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #101Mar 1, 2010 03:32PM

Same problem. HTC Hero, Proximus, Belgium.
I'm not even getting the 3.5G (H) icon, unlike the original poster describes, and I
don't have the problem every day. Sometimes when I leave the house in the morning it
switches, sometimes it doesn't and won't until I reboot.
Is there any other info I can collect to help resolving this?

oo...@gmail.com <oo...@gmail.com> #102Mar 2, 2010 03:26PM

i did some reading, and unfortunatly it's not a problem of mobile phone but it's a
problem of connection provider. If you can't connect to 3g, try to 2g it usually
helps, but not always.

Check that connection failur often occures in weekend and between 5-9pm
because then many more people uses theris phones. If so, then it's defenitly
provider fault.

wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #103Mar 2, 2010 06:06PM

I have an other non android phone on the same network that connects flawlessly to 3G
at the same time and place, so it doesn't look like a provider issue.

ba...@gmail.com <ba...@gmail.com> #104Mar 2, 2010 09:52PM

also got this problem on my phone (hero)

sr...@gmail.com <sr...@gmail.com> #105Mar 11, 2010 09:40AM

I also have this problem

Nexus One 2.1.update-1
wifi: never sleep

I can repro it pretty much every day, and the problem occurs by simply turning off
Wifi, not just be leaving wifi coverage.

It seems to only occur after having wifi for a longer period of time. I realize this
isn't helpful, but if I enter/exit airplane mode then have wifi for a shorter period
of time, then all works great.

Feel free to contact me. I have the android sdk setup and debugging enabled. I would
be glad to help with this issue.

sr...@gmail.com <sr...@gmail.com> #106Mar 14, 2010 09:36AM

After digging in some, it appears to be the same DNS problem that Micheal was having.
However my router is already configured to hand out google for the dns, and it still
doesn't work. It may be that my provider (Orange Poland) is blocking dns to other
providers.

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ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #107Mar 17, 2010 03:09AM

i have same problme on my nexus one too.

to simulate the problem, please follow below steps.
1)turn off both wifi and 3g(by APNDroid or anyother similar apps) first.
2)connect wifi. and then turn off wifi.
3)turn on 3g(by APNDroid), the 3G icon do appear in tar bar, but my phone can not
access internet actually.

The only solution (i found this "solution" in some forums) now is to connect 3G when
wifi is still connecting. (That mean i have to connect 3G first b4 i want to turn off
wifi, otherwise, i can't access internet thru' 3g after using wifi!!!

Please solve the problem. It is too troublesome, to connect 3g b4 turning off wifi,
and then disconnect 3g. (i have to repeat it everyday cos my 3g plan isn't a infinite
data plan, can't just leave 3g turn on.)

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #108Mar 18, 2010 11:13PM

I have the same problem as Kazumail on nexus one, and another one (tell me if I
should open another bug report for so):

Market stops downloading applications if you use wifi (but it can still navigate).
You have to dissable wifi, connect 3g APN, and then you can enable wifi again, then,
Market starts downloading pending tasks.

It seems that it is a DNS problem affecting only some services in some circunstances.
Is there perhaps a service which is not correctly reset when changing the
connection?. Please, check out.

ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #109Mar 26, 2010 02:57PM

I have a Magic that seems to have the same issue.
It's annoying that you have to toggle Airplane mode to switch between WiFi and 3G
when moving from one to the other.
Currently on the Vodafone network AU.
Tried installing and using various ROM's, none of which seem to fix issue.

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #110Mar 30, 2010 05:23PM

I seems that I am having the same issue. The (annoying) workaround I found myself is
using a 2G/3G widget switcher, and use to go 2G->3G, and 3G->2G back (2G offers me a
better coverage). When I got signal back, voilá, got EDGE connection available
instantly.

This 2G->3G->2G acts as a refresh button, but with at a cost of several clicks. By
now, a 1-click workaround would do the trick, meanwhile some engineer try to figure
out what is really happening.

HTC Magic 32A
Cynanogen's ROM 1.6 4.2.15.1

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #111Apr 1, 2010 07:55PM

Indeed. Turning on airplane mode and right after turning it off, the EDGE connection
comes to live.

dl...@gmail.com <dl...@gmail.com> #112Apr 6, 2010 07:55AM

I also have this problem

Nexus One 2.1.update-1

gi...@gmail.com <gi...@gmail.com> #113Apr 6, 2010 01:43PM

I also have the problem, on my Milestone since i updated to 2.1.update-1 (i never got
it with 2.0 and 2.01)

When i have the problem then in getprop i have no entry net.rmnet0.xxx at all , and
net.dns1/2 are empty. The phone is working, data is working when using ip numbers,
and also setting net.dns1/2 by hand with my usual gsm dns ip (setprop net.dns1
xx.xx.xx.xx) make it work (but it will be empty again after any connection change).

ko...@gmail.com <ko...@gmail.com> #114Apr 7, 2010 05:51PM

Have almost the same problem on HTC Hero with 1.5. The difference is that I don't
need to turn (and therefore loose connection to) wi-fi at all. Just disable 2g/3g and
some time later when enabled it says "Disconnected because service is unavailable".
Switching airplane on and off does sets it back to normal.

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #115Apr 13, 2010 05:32PM

I also have same problem.

HTC Desire
firmware version 2.1-update1
kernel version 2.6.29-97da29ed
build vesrion 1.15.405.4 CL155070 release-keys
SW version: 1.15.405.4

de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #116Apr 16, 2010 01:22AM

I have the same problem with Nexus 1 AT&T. Sometimes reregistering on the network
helps, although searching seems to take forever. The last few times, I have had to
reboot the phone.

el...@gmail.com <el...@gmail.com> #117Apr 16, 2010 02:20PM

same problem with HTC Desire !

gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #118Apr 17, 2010 06:41PM

also same problem daily with HTC desire - cannot automatically reacquire lost signal

sr...@gmail.com <sr...@gmail.com> #119Apr 17, 2010 08:31PM

I run into this problem daily. I really want to get
this fixed. I can give you log dumps or anything
else you need.

ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #120Apr 18, 2010 10:47AM

I'm having exactly the same issue (and independently found his workaround) as
reported in comment 116 by Gillou.Masson. At least for some of us it's a dns problem.

af...@gmail.com <af...@gmail.com> #121Apr 19, 2010 07:44AM

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af...@gmail.com <af...@gmail.com> #122Apr 19, 2010 07:51AM

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ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #123Apr 19, 2010 11:21AM

An addition. To me, it happens with or without using WiFi.
I use locale, and decided to create a profile to deactivate everything (besides
radio) at night. At 7am, this profile goes away, and the default profile tells
android to turn data back on. It simply does not came back. Sometimes it work,
sometimes not. And when it does not work, AIRPLANE mode widget is the only way to
solve the problem. On/Off and voilá. 3G is back. I noticed that because I decided to
not use WiFi anymore for regular usage, and before, since I was always using Wifi,
looked like the problem was a trasition from wifi->3g, but the problem to me in fact
is activating 3g, whatever you were using before.

so...@gmail.com <so...@gmail.com> #124Apr 19, 2010 02:04PM

I see the problem, as well, but only when leaving the WiFi coverage area at work
(Cisco, 802.1x PEAP).

At home (consumer grade DSL modem w/ WiFi, Siemens OEM model), everything works
nominally.

Phone: HTC Desire

jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #125Apr 19, 2010 02:19PM

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jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #126Apr 19, 2010 02:20PM

I'm also experiencing this behaviour.

After I've been at home for a period of time using WiFi 3G connection won't start up
after leaving the WiFi range. I can't surf and the 3G icon doesn't appear.

To fix this I either need to restart the phone or activate and deactivate flight mode.

I have a HTC Desire using Android 2.1 and HTC Sense.

da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #127Apr 19, 2010 04:08PM

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ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #128Apr 19, 2010 10:49PM

I have issues with my HTC Desire switching connection too. I will try to assist as
much as I can debugging this issue so please let me know what I can do to help. I
cannot stress enough how big a deal this issue is. If my phone was unable to make
calls it would only be slightly worse than it is now. Airplane mode doesn't help me,
switching on/off connections doesn't help, the ONLY way to reliably resolve the
problem is a full reboot. I'm having to do this a couple times every day. I'm almost
ready to give up. So... on to the details...

What happens?
-------------

After leaving WiFi coverage the phone fails to connect to a mobile data connection
such as GPRS or 3G.

Reproducing the Problem
-----------------------

Today I have hard reset my phone. I have not installed anything, I have just set up
my accounts for gmail, facebook, twitter and flickr. So my phone is "vanilla". I can
reproduce the problem reliably. The important thing as far as I can tell is being OUT
of mobile signal coverage at the point when the phone loses WiFi coverage.

1. Phone is powered on, wifi and mobile data connections are enabled in settings.
Data connection is set to be enabled at all times.

2. Phone enters wifi coverage. If wifi is unknown, connect to the wifi, otherwise
just allow the phone to connect to the wifi network.

3. Test connectivity. Phone should be sync'ing, internet browsing works, etc.

4. Either travel out of Wifi coverage, or simulate this by powering off the WiFi
access point. At this point the phone no longer has any means to make a data
connection... you have left Wifi coverage and have no mobile signal.

5. Enter an area of mobile coverage where you would normally have a data connection.
The phone does not connect to GPRS or 3G, and nothing seems to make it connect.

As I said, the trigger for me is leaving Wifi while having no mobile signal. If I do
have mobile signal at the point I leave WiFi the phone switches to mobile data MOST
times.

Unfortunately my home is in an area where there is virtually no mobile signal at all,
so this situation arises every time I leave the house. This is no "medium" priority
from my perspective, this is a major function of the phone simply failing to work.

Phone Information
-----------------

Model: HTC Desire
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Kernel version: 2.6.29-97da29ed htc-kernel@and18-2 #1
Build Number: 1.15.405.4 CL155070 release-keys
Software Version: 1.15.405.4

I'll review all previous comments for information on how to collect a debug report as
soon as I can, I don't know how yet.

Regards,
Rob.

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #129Apr 20, 2010 09:36AM

I have the same problem with my new HTC Desire.
When I leave my Wifi network at home, the phone does not switch to 3G data.
I need to either restart the phone or switch between flight mode and back.

I live in Sweden and my cell phone carrier is TELE 2.

Here's my phone information.
------------------------------------
Model: HTC Desire
Firmware Version: 2.1-update 1
Kernel version: 2.6.29-97da29ed htc-kernel@and 18-2 #1
Build number: 1.15.405 CL155070 release-keys
Software version: 1.15.405.4

The problem always occur when I leave my Wifi network.
I will try to test another Wifi network today to test if it's the Wifi network itself
that is causing this problem.

Regards

/Mattias

af...@gmail.com <af...@gmail.com> #130Apr 20, 2010 10:38AM

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af...@gmail.com <af...@gmail.com> #131Apr 20, 2010 10:40AM

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ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #132Apr 20, 2010 11:10AM

Related to 3g not showing up at morning, I created a workaround with
locale. Two extra profiles, 1min each, to turn on and off AirplaneMode. Voilá.
3g working. For those with wifi->3g issues, PERHAPS a workaround with paid
locale + counters plugin may work. Not sure. This plugin can trigger other
profiles.

Kind regards.

jp...@gmail.com <jp...@gmail.com> #133Apr 20, 2010 01:53PM

Same issue, leaving or disabling WiFi will almost never reconnect to mobile net. It
usually reconnects flawlessly if the WiFi connection was very short in time
(seriously: a couple of minutes), but letting it sit in WiFi for a few hours and it
will not reconnect to 3G.

I usually switch between 2G/3G which triggers a complete reconnect. That fixes my
mobile net.

Phone Information (same as rob.fone)
-----------------
Model: HTC Desire
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Kernel version: 2.6.29-97da29ed htc-kernel@and18-2 #1
Build Number: 1.15.405.4 CL155070 release-keys
Software Version: 1.15.405.4

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #134Apr 20, 2010 06:20PM

I just ordered this phone today.
Hope this is a software rather than software related.
Will report back with my findings.

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #135Apr 20, 2010 08:35PM

I got a response today from HTC Nordic regarding this issue.
According to them, they are aware of the problem and are currently working on a
solution.

wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #136Apr 21, 2010 12:46AM

I have the same problem with my HTC Desire in Australia on the Optus network.

When I move from a 3G network to WiFi, the connection transfers without a problem
but when I leave the range of the WiFi network, the 3G data connection is not re-
established. Signal strength does not seem to matter in my case as it is usually at
full strength. The only way I can reconnect with the 3G data network is to go into
flight mode and the back again. Thankfully I don't have to reboot the phone very
time.

Cheers.

va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #137Apr 21, 2010 05:37AM

I am having the same issue with the HTC Desire. Whenever I leave wifi range or turn
wifi off the phone does not reconnect to EDGE or 3G mobile network. I have voice,
but no data. Even if I leave the phone for several hours after turning off wifi, it
does not connect to the mobile data network.

I have found that the same workarounds mentioned here work: switching mobile network
to GSM only or WCDMA only and back to GSM/WCDMA, or switching into airplane mode and
back. Or reboot. Unfortunately this involves extra time and taps, and is kind of
dangerous if I'm doing it in the car....

ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #138Apr 21, 2010 11:23AM

Disappointing that I took the time to submit such a full report and offer to do
anything I can to help track down the cause of this major fault and have had no
feedback at all from anyone at Google. I'm still stuck powering off the phone a
couple times every day because of this.

Come on guys, you have a major problem in this bug, I'm here waiting to help, I've
set up adb, I've done just about everything I can at my end, so talk to me, let's get
this done.

lw...@gmail.com <lw...@gmail.com> #139Apr 21, 2010 11:37AM

Same problem here. Can go on Wifi just fine but then won't connect to 3G after I turn
Wifi off. I can only reboot off and on again or go to airplane mode and then back. If
I switch on anf off I can go on 3G, but then after a few hours if I want to try again
(no wifi used), the 3G won't connect. Airplane mode on and off helps me for now but I
wouls like a complete solving of this issue. Come on guys, this is a 479 euro phone,
not a cheap thing.
Details:
HTC HERO
using PROXIMUS in Belgium with a data connection of 200 MB per month (now only used
up 20 MB for this month)
I bought the phone in the Netherlands a week and a half ago
I live in an area with very good 3G reception as I had no problems with my HTC Tattoo

cs...@gmail.com <cs...@gmail.com> #140Apr 23, 2010 08:38AM

Using WCDMA only on my Desire, the Internet connectivity fluctuates. Using the
browser, it will load up 80% of the page and then seem to wait for more data.
Refresh, it'll load 80% again. Refresh it'll load 15%. Sitting in an area with 2-
bars of signal. My N95 8GB while not especially quick, as least managed to finished
loading a page.
I wonder if it's a packet size thing, and it gets to a big picture on a webpage or a
downloaded data, and falls over.

sa...@googlemail.com <sa...@googlemail.com> #141Apr 23, 2010 03:43PM

I also have same problem.

HTC Desire
firmware version 2.1-update1

af...@gmail.com <af...@gmail.com> #142Apr 24, 2010 10:56AM

Same problem HTC Hero

by...@gmail.com <by...@gmail.com> #143Apr 24, 2010 01:55PM

same problem with my new HTC Desire :-(

plx fix

ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #144Apr 24, 2010 05:09PM

Same problem here. HTC Desire and o2 germany?

an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #145Apr 25, 2010 10:28AM

same problem with nexus one and o2 germany

es...@googlemail.com <es...@googlemail.com> #146Apr 25, 2010 02:01PM

Same problem HTC Hero / o2 Germany

go...@gresch.de <go...@gresch.de> #147Apr 25, 2010 08:48PM

Again this ugly bug on my HTCDesire. Please fix this!

no...@gmail.com <no...@gmail.com> #148Apr 26, 2010 07:13AM

Same problem on my HTC Desire.

la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #149Apr 26, 2010 07:46AM

Yep, same problem with HTC Desire and o2 Germany.

ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #150Apr 26, 2010 08:57AM

I hope all of you are "starring" this, that's the best way to raise the priority of the
issue.

Android Team, my offer of input with debugging still stands, I am able to repro my
issue and have set up adb on my laptop to grab bug reports.

ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #151Apr 26, 2010 09:28AM

I've got the same Problem with HTC Desire and O2 Germany ! When will you fix this ?

ra...@googlemail.com <ra...@googlemail.com> #152Apr 26, 2010 10:01AM

I am having the same problem with HTC Desire/ O2 Germany/ Berlin.

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #153Apr 26, 2010 02:41PM

I am having the same problem with my HTC Desire / Provider Sunrise Switzerland.
Thanks for raising the priority to High.

jw...@gmail.com <jw...@gmail.com> #154Apr 26, 2010 05:56PM

Same problem here with HTC Desire (network o2 Germany)

af...@gmail.com <af...@gmail.com> #155Apr 26, 2010 07:15PM

Rob.Fono

How about you email the dev who answered in this thread earlier, directly :)

http://code.google.com/u/@VRBRQ1dSBhFEWwR8/

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #156Apr 27, 2010 08:38AM

Same problem with my brand new HTC Desire with movistar Spain. Look at the error in
this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxcjcTjiO9g

le...@gmail.com <le...@gmail.com> #157Apr 27, 2010 10:36AM

Same problem here. HTC Desire, Vodafone UK.

Only started happening in the last two days.

sv...@googlemail.com <sv...@googlemail.com> #158Apr 27, 2010 11:09AM

Same here with "Alice" (O2 Germany reseller) on HTC Desire. Restarting,
activating/deactivating flight mode or switching GSM to WCDMA or vice versa helps for
the moment. But problem reoccurs.

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #159Apr 27, 2010 11:14AM

Related to my post #159 y have to say that it happens even after having restored my
Desire to factory defaults, so no 3rd party applications interfering here. And in my
case it happens after having had wifi on, 3g on and wifi connected to my router, then
suspend Desire for > 1hour and when wake up and turn off wifi, 3G doesn't reconnect.
Also every night I disconnect wifi and 3g, and next morning if I try to connect 3G
some days it connects and some days it doesn't. It's very difficult to predict when
will it happen.

sr...@gmail.com <sr...@gmail.com> #160Apr 27, 2010 03:48PM

I can reliably reproduce this problem, and like most of the people it happens every
day. I have the android sdk installed, and I would love to get this fixed.

Everyday, my wife and I talk about getting her a Nexus One. She wants one really bad,
but I don't feel like I can buy her one till I know she isn't going to go nuts because
of this bug.

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #161Apr 27, 2010 05:26PM

Here is a link to another video of my Desire this time with some explanations (in my
poor english too).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WinUYqeagKA

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #162Apr 27, 2010 08:40PM

Power cycle is only 'trick' working for me.
I am stuck in Edge :( HTC MAGIC
very poor support

ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #163Apr 28, 2010 12:18AM

I have the same issue on my HTC Desire, 2.1, Optus Australia

Switching flight mode on/off causes it to reconnect to the data network.

It started occurring 2 days ago, which is about a week after I got the phone. This was
around the same time as the latest Locale update so that may be related.

gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #164Apr 28, 2010 06:56AM

I also have the same issue on my HTC Desire. I usually power cycle to fix the problem.

Have also uninstalled TasKiller as others have suggested.

ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #165Apr 28, 2010 09:39AM

I have the same problem on my HTC Desire
Sometimes fixed by re-regsitering on the network or toggling Airplane mode
I allready had my device switched due to this issue but also on the new one I have
this problem
Operator Proximus - Belgium

ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #166Apr 28, 2010 10:05AM

AFjell, perhaps you didn't notice the dates. The last comment from that dev was Feb
22nd, more than two months ago. The report of this major defect was originally opened
more than one year ago.

I need direction to be able to contribute something useful to get this issue fixed.

Android team, I'm still waiting, I check in here regularly looking for progress, if
you tell me what to provide I will do my best to do so.

pd...@gmail.com <pd...@gmail.com> #167Apr 28, 2010 02:16PM

same problem @ HTC Desire (o2 Germany)

ve...@gmail.com <ve...@gmail.com> #168Apr 28, 2010 03:24PM

same issue here. Desire on O2 in UK. Switching of wifi seems to fix the problem

bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #169Apr 28, 2010 09:32PM

I had this problem when I got my HTC Desire. I'm not sure how it disappeared though.
When I first started my phone I had a SIM (Telia) that wasn't fully activated, so I
couldn't make any phone calls. In the meantime I put in another SIM card (Tele2) and
that's when my troubles started. After re-inserting my Telia SIM a week later the
problems disappeared and I didn't have to restart my phone for it to switch net
access to 3G. I don't know if this helps..

no...@gmail.com <no...@gmail.com> #170Apr 28, 2010 10:38PM

Same issue for me. HTC Desire, Virgin/Optus network Australia.

no...@gmail.com <no...@gmail.com> #171Apr 28, 2010 10:38PM

Same issue for me. HTC Desire, Virgin/Optus network Australia.

pj...@gmail.com <pj...@gmail.com> #172Apr 29, 2010 05:55AM

I have the same issue with a HTC Desire on Optus (AU).

Not sure if this helps at all but it seems to be related to "going out of range"
while the phone is idle/locked

1. If I switch off the WiFi while in range then all behaves as I would expect.
2. If I walk away from the wifi range while the phone is in my pocket then the phone
does seem to swap back on it's own as long as I check it fairly quickly.
3. If I go out for lunch or drive to work and I have not checked for some time
(20min+?) then it seems not to switch across.

This has occurred with both my work wireless and home wireless so suspect not related
to the wireless device.

os...@gmail.com <os...@gmail.com> #173Apr 29, 2010 11:34AM

Have the same problem. (HTC Desire) I even seem to lose 3g/hsdpa connection when
using gps... Sometimes I can reconnect by toggling the airplane mode, but usually I
have to restart the phone.
This is a really annoying bug on an otherwise great phone.

lf...@gmail.com <lf...@gmail.com> #174Apr 29, 2010 11:35AM

same problem... htc desire orange/switzerland

en...@gmail.com <en...@gmail.com> #175Apr 29, 2010 06:22PM

same problem... htc desire orange/switzerland

fl...@gmail.com <fl...@gmail.com> #176Apr 30, 2010 06:13AM

Same problem on Samsung I5700 and firmware 2.1 update 1 i'm using D1 (german provider)...

fl...@gmail.com <fl...@gmail.com> #177Apr 30, 2010 06:13AM

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gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #178Apr 30, 2010 06:58AM

Uninstalling tasKiller has no effect. Noticed this happening on multiple wireless
routers both at home and also at work. Mainly if i remain in the area for a long period
of time with the phone in standby and WiFi sleep mode set to none.

ed...@gmail.com <ed...@gmail.com> #179Apr 30, 2010 08:48AM

Same issue for me. Orange UK. Cannot connect if 3G is enabled - only GPRS connection
works. And WiFi messes up both, so neither will connect.
Frustrating and not fit for purpose. Major disappointment.

je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #180Apr 30, 2010 11:27AM

HTC Legend.
Same Issue. Proximus Belgium.
Enable Disable flight mode reset the GPRS connection.

et...@gmail.com <et...@gmail.com> #181Apr 30, 2010 01:12PM

My issue is very similar, but net functions all change over ok, but exchange server
sync dies. I have to reboot phone to get it back

HTC Desire Andriod 2.1 - Telstra Australia

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #182May 1, 2010 09:42AM

In my particular case, I have to say that it doesn't seem to be always wifi related.
You can see it in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGCz0-NZHnM

Wifi and 3G have been disabled all night, and in the morning, when I try to connect
3G it's imppossible. Talking with forum people in Spain someone told me that instead
of using airplane mode to force 3g to reconnect, if I go to settings, wireless
connections, and tap automatic operator selection (it's the selection I always have
turned on) it reconnects immediately and says "Registered to network". I will try to
make a video with this "solution". So in this case wifi it's not the problem.

jv...@gmail.com <jv...@gmail.com> #183May 1, 2010 12:03PM

Same problem here, with not switching back to 3G (so no mobile internet).

Operator is Hi (KPN) in the Netherlands.

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #184May 1, 2010 11:02PM

I just bought my HTC Desire today. It worked great until I switched the wifi on and
since then I haven't been able to connect without wifi. None of the work-arounds
described above work for me.

I'll be able to swap it out I'm sure, but I'm incredibly disappointed. What's the
point of this phone if the internet doesn't work?

Sadly, bug appears to be over a year old. I might just ask for an iphone instead of a
new Desire. What's the point if the problem isn't being fixed?

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #185May 3, 2010 02:44AM

Still no fix?

The DNS issue is long gone, the data connection now just doesn't *try* to connect at all.

If I open the debug menu (dial *#*#4636#*#*) the GPRS services shows "disconnected".
Under GSM Disconnects it shows that the Data state is in inactive. It is worth noting that using the menu to "Enable
data connection" does nothing - almost as if the phone still thinks Wifi is active.

It seems that turning off Wifi manually fails to put the data state back to "active" (or "connecting").

If I just walk out of wifi range with the screen on, it seems to connect to 3G as usual. If I walk out of range with
the screen off, turning it back on shows that wifi appears to still be connected. The wifi icon then disappears,
then nothing. No 3G.

2G/3G switching fixes it, as does airplane mode, but it is very annoying.

I'll try a bug report later, but the problem with the bug report is it can only show things that happen. It won't
show things that just "don't" happen (like attempting to connect, which it does not do), and presumably doesn't show
the logic that decides when to turn on 3G data. I'll look at it more closely later, and post it if it shows
anything.

je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #186May 3, 2010 09:18AM

HTC Desire.
Same Issue. España -> OMV: pepephone

ne...@googlemail.com <ne...@googlemail.com> #187May 3, 2010 01:27PM

Same here.

Device: HTC Desire, Android 2.1
Provider: o2 - Germany

Biggest (and most annoying) bug on the device.

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #188May 3, 2010 01:49PM

And again:

Device: HTC Desire, Android 2.1
Provider: Simyo/eplus - Germany

No data connection, sometimes also with message "No service available", although it
should.

rp...@gmail.com <rp...@gmail.com> #189May 3, 2010 02:21PM

Me with the same bug

Going out WiFi range in stand-by mode, the 3G connection does not work.

HTC Desire, Android and Vodafone Spain

an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #190May 3, 2010 04:08PM

Hello!

I have the same problem with A1 (Mobilkom) in Austria and HTC Desire.
brgds

Andi

ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #191May 3, 2010 06:39PM

HTC Desire.
Same Issue. España -> OMV: vodafone

pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #192May 3, 2010 09:48PM

Hi there. I have the same kind of annoying troubles with the 3G connection in my new
HTC Desire that I never experienced in my last Nexus One.
My provider is Movistar.
It's a shame that this very old issue is not fixed yet.

cd...@gmail.com <cd...@gmail.com> #193May 3, 2010 10:21PM

HTC Desire - same problem 3 (Australia). Does not connect to HSDPA, only standard
connection following intense WiFi connection. Either full hard boot or activating /
deactivating flight mode.

da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #194May 4, 2010 08:27AM

I have the same problem;
HTC Desire on T-Mobile (UK) fresh from the box.
Loss of 3G following data usage over wifi.

Manually switching to 2G then back is the work-around.

de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #195May 4, 2010 10:19AM

same problem here: htc desire on o2 germany.

in...@googlemail.com <in...@googlemail.com> #196May 4, 2010 12:06PM

As dennis.kopp84 said. Same problem on HTC Desire on o2 germany.

a....@gmail.com <a....@gmail.com> #197May 4, 2010 09:52PM

Same problem on HTC Desire on MTS Russia .

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #198May 5, 2010 05:58AM

i have also the same problem: htc desire with o2

ha...@gmail.com <ha...@gmail.com> #199May 5, 2010 07:19AM

same problem: htc desire with telering (tmobile austria)

sv...@googlemail.com <sv...@googlemail.com> #200May 5, 2010 10:52AM

Is there anything one can do to help you developers in resolving this issue? Provide
logs or something?
Please advice us how we can help!

Many thanks in advance!

th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #201May 5, 2010 05:14PM

same problem with my brand new DESIRE on proximus - belgium....
is it serious to keep a so old bug without correction ? ...

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #202May 5, 2010 05:34PM

Same here, HTC Desire 2.1, NetCom provider in Norway.
When going out of WiFi range, must toggle Airplane mode to get 3G/E connection
Same when entering WiFi range again . .

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #203May 6, 2010 05:14AM

I am using desire in Germany.
If i have switched off mobile connection for a while and trying to switch it on.
The mobile connection is never getting connected again. I usually restart the phone
and this is annoying.

he...@gmail.com <he...@gmail.com> #204May 6, 2010 07:21PM

Same for me:

Germany, Provider o2, HTC Desire with Android 2.1

th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #205May 6, 2010 09:46PM

Same here - Germany, Desire, O2, Google pls fix it!

th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #206May 6, 2010 09:46PM

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md...@gmail.com <md...@gmail.com> #207May 7, 2010 09:02AM

I have the Desire with Android 2.1 and HTC Sense. Provider is Sunrise(CH).
The same probleme happens to me every day, and i always have to reboot my phone,
before i can use the mobile internet connection.

Can you please fix this bug?

Greez
Michael Schär

lu...@googlemail.com <lu...@googlemail.com> #208May 7, 2010 11:23AM

Same Problem..... O2 Germany wit HTC DESIRE.... FIX IT !!!

a....@gmail.com <a....@gmail.com> #209May 7, 2010 10:58PM

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da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #210May 8, 2010 03:10AM

HTC Desire, Android 2.1, Vodafone Australia.

Same issue here. No mobile data connection after leaving a wifi connection. Airplane
mode on/off toggle or phone reboot fixes problem. Happy to help in debugging effort
if you advise on what we should do!!

be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #211May 8, 2010 03:21PM

Same issue here. Provider O2 Germany. Switching airplane mode on and off helps. Only
occurs after having been connected to wifi for a longer time. When turning off wifi
after 15 minutes throug wifi sleep policy the problem doesn't occur.

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #212May 8, 2010 09:11PM

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so...@gmail.com <so...@gmail.com> #213May 8, 2010 10:53PM

Same issue here, O2 Germany (Berlin), HTC Desire.

ro...@icloud.com <ro...@icloud.com> #214May 9, 2010 09:58AM

Same issue here. Tried it with two different wireless access points. One with
encryption and one without.
I have a HTC Legend running android 2.1 and my network is Vodafone. I am
in the UK.

I don't have advanced task killer installed. The HTC firmware of my Legend is
1.23.161.1.

Whenever I switch off wireless or lose wireless connection my network data
signal never comes back on. Although a few times it has, but only after
leaving my phone for say an hour to do it.
Turning the wireless on and off again almost always rectifies the problem.

Sometimes I notice the 'Mobile Network' check box in the 'Wireless &
Networks' settings appears to get stuck 'Turning On'.

Please let me know if you need any more information.

Thanks.

ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #215May 9, 2010 04:30PM

I can confirm this issue. I am using Android 2.1 on HTC Desire with O2-Germany.

Nearly always (>80%) the net access fails after leaving a WiFi Connection. Sometimes it comes back when the
whole connection get lost (driving throug a tunnel or so).

Turning on and off the Airplane Mode or rebooting solves the problem.
Please let me know if you need more info.

gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #216May 9, 2010 09:01PM

Same problem and workaround used.
provider: proximus (belgium)
phone: HTC desire
looking forward to have this fixed!

ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #217May 10, 2010 12:57AM

A work Ard for all...
i hav n1, and this also happens to me. but i hav a work ard for all, not sure if any1
posted this wrkard b4, hope ppl dont mind since there r too many problem posts i
rather just post it.

u dont need to restart / reboot ur phone. just create a dummy APN like Name=*blank,
APN=dummy. so when u wanna use 3G internet just goto APN and select ur carrier's one.
if u r at home with wifi just goto APN and select the *blank (dummy) APN, then no
more 3G data! hope that helps! but GOOGLE plzzz fix it soon!

su...@gmail.com <su...@gmail.com> #218May 10, 2010 07:41AM

Hello everyone,

My HTC Desire suffers from the same problems. When connected on wi-fi for an extended
period of time and then either walking out of wi-fi range or manually turning it off,
the phone would not automatically switch back to data network, and the internet
connection is lost.

In my case too, switching from 3G to 2G or vice versa allowed resetting the
connection, but it's a hassle.

I found a workaround that seems to work (I have been using it for more than a week):
* Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wi-fi settings > advanced (by pressing menu) >
wi-fi sleep policy : set to "After 15 minutes"
* Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Network: set to "Connect when no wi-fi
network is available"

Now when I walk out of wi-fi range the phone automatically switches to 3G and I dont
need to use airplane mode or whatsoever.

Hope this can help some of you, maybe the people with an HTC Desire that seem to be
particularly plagued with this issue.

Cheers,

Suleiman

ke...@gmail.com <ke...@gmail.com> #219May 10, 2010 05:38PM

Same here: HTC Desire from T-Mobile Germany with a Vodafone SIM. No mobile data
connectivity after longer wifi usage.

cm...@gmail.com <cm...@gmail.com> #220May 11, 2010 12:18PM

Another data point, I've only just encountered this problem:

- My local T-Mobile cell site is down, so I've got no 2G signal (just very
occasionally 1 bar from a distant cell).
- Using the HTC Desire on wifi.
- Turn off wifi using the widget.
- Travel into cell coverage.

Results:

- Even in full signal I don't pick-up mobile data. Toggling flight mode doesn't help.
- Trying to shutdown the phone results in it hanging, I have to take the battery out
to recover.
- After booting back up mobile data works fine.

HTC Desire Software number 1.15.405.5.

kr...@gmail.com <kr...@gmail.com> #221May 12, 2010 01:36AM

I'm in Australia on the Optus network and am having this problem too, with my HTC Desire.

Phone will never reconnect to 3G after leaving the house (where I have Wi-Fi). I have
to toggle flight mode to reconnect.

fr...@gmail.com <fr...@gmail.com> #222May 12, 2010 03:10AM

I have the exact same issue as described on my HTC desire. I have to use flight
mode to reestablish connection. This is a basic issue which should be resolved as
soon as possible. If a superphone cannot switch seamlessly between Wifi and 3G it
definitely is not super.

kr...@gmail.com <kr...@gmail.com> #223May 12, 2010 07:39PM

HTC Desire here and I have the same issue I think.
It does not make a GPRS connection after using wifi. If I turn 'Mobile Network' OFF
and then ON again it simply says 'Connection Failed'.

But then sometimes the data connection will just work on it's own. However I have not
confirmed it yet but it seems to be only when in range or attempting to connect to
another wifi network.

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #224May 12, 2010 11:56PM

HTC Desire on Optus in Melbourne having same problem automatically transitioning from
WiFi to hsdpa. If I manually disable Wifi before leaving vicinity it picks up 3G
network straight away. But if I go out of range the internet connection just completely
drops out. HTC Desire is UK model and is compatible with optus network.

ha...@gmail.com <ha...@gmail.com> #225May 13, 2010 08:33AM

Same issue here it seems, on Orange UK. No mobile data signal at home, but with wifi,
on leaving the house and travelling to coverage area no data connection can be
established. I have to reboot. I've probably overcomplicated by trying to use
juicedefender to switch things on and off periodically anyway, that fact that this
didn't seem to be working then drove me to find this bug report!

pj...@gmail.com <pj...@gmail.com> #226May 13, 2010 11:08PM

WORKED FOR ME!

I have tried the post from:

Comment 221 by suleiman.khan, May 10

This has worked for me. Not had a single problem since changing the wi-fi sleep
policy as described.

Worth a try for other people who were continually getting the problem! (I had the
problem everytime I left WiFi).

Thanks Suleiman - Your a champion.

al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #227May 14, 2010 07:00PM

Hello,
I have an HTC Legend (Vodafone Netherlands) and after using the WiFi I was not able to
connect to the 3G network. Toggling wifi/airplane mode doesn't help. Rebooting the
phone doesn't help either.

Basically I'm stuck with no 3G network.... any help is much appreciated

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #228May 14, 2010 08:48PM

@rgreenw...@google.com I am the APNdroid author. How can I help you with this crazy thing? Our users are
starting to be aggressive :-)
I hope you are able now to reproduce this, so I don't need to provide logs (I can reproduce after few seconds of
turing on/off both Wifi and APNdroid), but I am willing to try any crazy hack you come with.

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #229May 14, 2010 10:32PM

I have exactly the same issue like almost everyone here. Disconnecting the
internetconnection manually via the mobile-internet option in my home screen of my
HTC Desire (and waiting some minutes) causes that I have to use either the
flight-mode or the 2g->3g switch trick to get a mobile connection again.
This is definitly an sw issue and not an hw or provider issue. Because switchting the
networking modes (2g/3g) causes an restart of the telefony daemon. But these several
restarting possibilities won't solve the problem. They are only bad workarounds. So
please fix that.

ge...@googlemail.com <ge...@googlemail.com> #230May 15, 2010 12:16PM

Same problem here with my (unbranded) HTC Desire on o2 Germany. Whenever I was
connected via Wifi for several hours (3h seem to be key) and then switch off Wifi or
just leave the Wifi range, then the mobile won't automatically establish a data
connection with the mobile network (3G or 2G, doesn't matter). Only switching on and
off airplane mode or rebooting the phone helps. This happens with both the access
point at home and at work, doesn't matter. I even did a hard reset of the phone and
tried with a completely fresh phone (no additional apps or anything), didn't make a
difference, so it's not any app I have installed. This is really an EXTREMELY
annoying bug and I find it incredible that in all this time it still hasn't been
fixed. Is anyone from Google actually still monitoring this thread? And why does such
an issue which is apparently experienced by a lot of Android 2.1 users still only
have a priority of "Medium"? Any Android forum I know of has at least 1 thread
dealing with exactly this issue. IMO this should have a much higher priority.

I already contacted HTC about this, even sent them bugreports created with "adb
bugreport", but they only told me that it's a known problem and they themselves are
waiting for a fix from Google. So Google, please fix this!!! An expensive smartphone
that cannot properly handle network transitions is not really that smart! If there's
any more information I can provide you with to help you, please let me know.

vb...@gmail.com <vb...@gmail.com> #231May 15, 2010 10:34PM

Same problem on my HTC Hero.

a....@gmail.com <a....@gmail.com> #232May 16, 2010 11:29AM

I agree and can confirm every word of the

comment #233

. Please Google... what is taking
you so long?

th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #233May 16, 2010 02:43PM

Same problem on my HTC Desire (Firmware: 2.1-update1). Even worse, neither restarting
the phone nor the 2g/3g trick fixes the issue, so now I'm stuck without mobile data
connection.

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #234May 17, 2010 10:05AM

[Comment deleted]

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #235May 17, 2010 10:06AM

Exactly the same problem for me also, I have a brand new HTC Desire less than a week old.

If I use wifi for any length of time, then turn it off or leave wifi range the phone
does not establish a data connection with the mobile data network (3G, 2G or any
other). This happens with ALL wifi access point home, work and others, and on all
the network providers I have access to (Orange, Virgin and O2).

As with comment 233 I can confirm that if I put the phone in airplane mode or reboot
the phone with wifi turned off, the mobile data network starts working again. Until
I use wifi again then it back to square one.

Phone: HTC Desire
Baseband version: 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
Kernel version: 2.6.29-3cb3dfdf htc-kernel@and18-2 # 1
Firmware version: 2.1-update1
Build number 1.15.161.4 CL155070 release-keys

su...@gmail.com <su...@gmail.com> #236May 17, 2010 11:27AM

In reply to post 229.

You're welcome pjbmatthews :) I'm glad it worked for you.

You might be the only one who took the time to read it :) Apparently I didn't phrase
it correctly :)

So I encourage you folks to try the workaround I posted a few days back (comment
#221) :)

Best,

Suleiman

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #237May 17, 2010 11:36AM

Same problem on my HTC Desire. Fix needed!

co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #238May 17, 2010 12:24PM

Suleiman, the workaround you mentioned is not available for Nexus one. Basically, all
it does is avoid the wifi from staying on too long when idle. Which is exactly the
root cause of this bug.

su...@gmail.com <su...@gmail.com> #239May 17, 2010 12:31PM

Hi Conrad,

Yes I'm aware that it is not a fix, but merely a workaround. I had posted it having
in mind the HTC desire users as I mentioned in the post, hoping it could help people
while waiting for a fix.

Thank you for pointing out that it does not work for nexus one. But is there no way
to define a wifi sleep policy on the Nexus One ? The idea is not having to manually
use airplane mode or some other kind of manipulation.

fs...@gmail.com <fs...@gmail.com> #240May 17, 2010 06:03PM

Hi there,

excactly the same for me. I get a 3G symbol on my Nexus one but can't receive data.
Apparently it tries to send data as the upload flash lights up every know and than.

da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #241May 17, 2010 06:43PM

Hi suleiman.khan

With regard to your work around in

comment#221

I have no problem setting the Wi-fi sleep setting to "After 15 minutes"

However as for the instruction:
* Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Network: set to "Connect when no wi-fi
network is available"

I cannot find this setting anywhere on my Desire???

Any help would be appreciated

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #242May 18, 2010 09:27AM

OK so i have talked to a HTC Customer services representative today, and basically
HTC have not had that many calls about this problem, so if you are experiencing the
problem as layed out in this thread then please call them and report it otherwise
nothing will get done about it.

Here are HTC's contact numbers:
all numbers are taken from the HTC website @

http://www.htc.com/www/CA_Hotline.aspx

Austria 43-192-873-67
Belarus +882000110030
Belgium +32 (0)2 / 404 0616
Bulgaria +8001151053
Croatia 0800 222356
Cyprus 00800-126-878
Czech Republic 800700741
Denmark +45 70142360
Estonia +8000111200
Finland 800-114-214
France +33-170-759-171
Germany 49-692-222-7334
Greece +302 111 980955
Hungary 680016326
Ireland 353-16-968-474
Italy +39-023-600-3221
Kazakhstan +7-727-263-7275
Kazakhstan +7-727-263-7276
Latvia +80003210
Liechtenstein *Swiss Geo* +0445803486
Lithuania +880030766
Luxembourg +32-240-406-16
Malta +39-023-600-3221
Netherlands +31 (0)20 – 715 7310
Norway 800-11576
Poland 00800 121 1666
Portugal (00351) 800 814693
Romania +800895092
Russian Federation 810-800-256-410-12
Slovakia +0800001451
Slovenia 0800 80503
Spain +34-914-146-588
Sweden 46-850-55-6438
Switzerland 41-44-580-6245
United Kingdom +44 8458900079
Ukraine 08005046210

ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #243May 18, 2010 10:51AM

This is getting ridiculous.

Wake up Google, you have perhaps the most serious problem any phone has gone to
market with here and it hasn't been addressed after 14 months. Medium priority? Does
a phone have to explode in someone's hand before you consider a problem high
priority???

Short of not being able to make calls, a smartphone failing to make a data connection
without a reboot is probably the most serious defect it could have. This fault is
easily reproduced and you have enough offers from the community here to gather
information. There is no excuse for ignoring this, you're letting down the community
that supports you.

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #244May 18, 2010 11:50AM

#245. I've opened a ticket in HTC service in Spain and they told me the same, not too
many people with this issue called them. I talk with people in a spanish forum and at
this moment 3 of us have sent our Desire to HTC service (we own Desire since 4/14). I
guess the answer they will give me, but at least I've tried it. I attached them a
paper with the links to the videos I made reproducing the issue that I hanged in
youtube. Hope they see them.

a....@gmail.com <a....@gmail.com> #245May 19, 2010 08:28AM

I own an Acer Liquid. If i use mobile connection only, all ok. If i use WiFi and
after i switch to 2G or 3G, i cannot browsing. NSlookup doesn't work, but if i do a
ping to a numeric IP address, like 8.8.8.8, connection works. So, the problem seems
relative to DNS: apparently, when i switch from WiFi to 2G/3G, system don't reset DNS
server. I want point up that with Android 1.6 roms this problem never happen: i got
this problem with new for Liquid E (Eclair)

na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #246May 19, 2010 10:28AM

Christ, the number of comments on this issue have exploded and still no feedback
whatsoever. Reported the problem as well 6 months ago. Since then, everyday I have to
manually turn the mobile data on and off to get a connection..

HTC Hero, Android 1.5, Proximus, Belgium

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #247May 19, 2010 01:21PM

OK here's a new twist to this issue.

My phone as of yesterday has started working as it should? I can now use wifi, I can
disconnect from it and go straight on to my mobile connection with no problems what
so ever???

I have changed nothing to make this work, what has changed however is my sim its been
updated, I've had my old phone number transferred to my new sim this happened on the
same day it started working(and before i noticed it was working).

Further to that before it started working i could put my partners sim card in my
phone and it would work with no problems and if i put my sim in my partners phone
(also an HTC Desire) its stopped working.

Have's anyone tried a different sim card in their phones?

So the question is, is this problem somehow tied to the sim card.

st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #248May 20, 2010 04:32AM

Same here. Every so often the browser can no longer connect to sites.

Changing 2G/3G does not always fox this for me.
Going into and out of Flight mode does not always fix this for me.

Last time I did this, a 'nslookup

www.intel.com' yielded a server of 0.0.0.0. When
this happens I can still ping IP addresses but not resolve any (new?) names. Adding
a name server manually using 'setprop /proc/net.dns1 x.x.x.x' works but obviously it
would be nice to have this fixed more permanently.

I currently have WiFi off altogether to avoid this as it screws up my push mail.
Push mail isn't much good if it silently dies!

This seems to have been around for quite some time on a lot of devices (if not all).
How hard can it be to reproduce and fix this?

tt...@gmail.com <tt...@gmail.com> #249May 21, 2010 03:48AM

same here
samsung moment 2.1

32...@gmail.com <32...@gmail.com> #250May 21, 2010 12:11PM

Same problem on my HTC Desire! Wrrrrrrrrrrrrr

mo...@gmail.com <mo...@gmail.com> #251May 21, 2010 02:12PM

Same problem on my HTC Magic, google branded Vodaphone ...

ma...@thesuccessfulinvestor.com.au <ma...@thesuccessfulinvestor.com.au> #252May 21, 2010 04:22PM

Yup, exactly the same issue on my HTC Desire. Google please pay attention. This
needs fixing pronto.

dl...@gmail.com <dl...@gmail.com> #253May 22, 2010 12:18AM

Moto Milestone, 2.1, same problem

dl...@gmail.com <dl...@gmail.com> #254May 22, 2010 12:18AM

Moto Milestone, 2.1, same problem

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #255May 22, 2010 01:42PM

Same problem - Samsung I5700 + Android 2.1

Here is something probably interesting - when the problem occurred this morning, I
decided to check the APN settings and my APN list was empty. I thought my APN setting
is corrupted somehow, so I decided to add new one. But I couldn't do this because some
of the settings that usually have default values (like MCC=284 and MNC=03) were empty
and I didn't know what to put. After I restarted the phone, the APN settings were
restored.

ap...@gmail.com <ap...@gmail.com> #256May 23, 2010 01:31AM

Same issue here. HTC Desire android V2.1 update 1

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #257May 23, 2010 09:54AM

here also problems, HTC Desire, a shame, such a good phone!

ms...@gmail.com <ms...@gmail.com> #258May 24, 2010 10:48AM

same problem here.

ts...@gmail.com <ts...@gmail.com> #259May 24, 2010 11:49AM

Anyone who is on Froyo, is this bug fixed?

ku...@gmail.com <ku...@gmail.com> #260May 24, 2010 10:17PM

Annoying bug, Nexus one 2.1 :(

fh...@gmail.com <fh...@gmail.com> #261May 25, 2010 04:23PM

With Samsung i5700 with 2.1-update1:

After some sleep time(and WiFi off), mobile net is goan too (opera/android Browser:no
connection) IP Address widget hadn't shown any IP address.

So I checked network/connection state with OSmontior tool, and I realized I have IP
address on my phone and, I can ping this address from my desktop! But applications
couldn't connect to the net. After Wifi On/Off Mobile net is back again and work
perfectly.

This is a work around too?

gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #262May 26, 2010 04:11AM

Happening here too on HTC Desire.. 2.1update1

kj...@gmail.com <kj...@gmail.com> #263May 26, 2010 01:43PM

Same problem on my Hero, as well as on two of my colleagues' Heroes.

My next phone will probably not be an Android because of the bug, as it annoys me
multiple times every single day. It is a shame that this bug makes me avoid an
otherwise lovely OS.

fa...@gmail.com <fa...@gmail.com> #264May 26, 2010 02:07PM

I have the same problem on hero in Italy with TIM.
I found some problem inside the configuration of the hero.
1) IPV6 loaded (eliminated from modules autoload)
2) when switch from wifi to 3g the dns settings doesn't change correctly.

If you set with setprop net.dns1 213.230.130.222 (tim italy) after you can use
correctly the 3g network

Now we need to "re-set" the 3g dns
the dns of wifi network is setup corretcly when come bak from 3g to wifi.

Ciao
Fabrizio.

jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #265May 26, 2010 06:38PM

I have the desire and have commanded the satellite to the problem with the 3g, I'm
looking to sell give me, I go back to windows mobile, android becomes what is linux
on the computers, crap, greetings.

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #266May 26, 2010 10:02PM

Anyone has tried the new official firmware 1.21.405.2? It comes with new radio
version 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02(Orange branded be careful, locks your phone)

hj...@gmail.com <hj...@gmail.com> #267May 28, 2010 07:08AM

HTC Desire firmware ver. 2.1-update 1, Build no. 1.15.405.4
Same unstability when changing from 3G to WIFI and back.
This morning I tried to enable Airplane-mode and both WI-FI and Airplane-mode
labels were highlighted ??? Tried to connect to the internet through WI-FI and
connection was OK regardless of the airplane icon in the top ??. After a couple of
minutes the connection was lost.
Some thread in the SW is not handled ok i think.
regards
Jørgen

ha...@gmail.com <ha...@gmail.com> #268May 28, 2010 01:23PM

Since O2 in Czech republic started selling Android devices, problem disappeared. So I think, that this is
problem of carrier's network...

ha...@gmail.com <ha...@gmail.com> #269May 28, 2010 01:24PM

Since O2 in Czech republic started selling Android devices, problem disappeared. So I think, that this is
problem of carrier's network...

mo...@gmail.com <mo...@gmail.com> #270May 28, 2010 02:28PM

Hi,

I bought an HTC Legend a week ago and I have quite the same problem.

Maybe this information could help :

- I'm in Belgium with Proximus provider
- When I'm on Wifi, everything is working well
- When I'm on 3G :
- market doesn't work
- default internet browser doesn't work
BUT :
- msn is working
- gtalk is working
AND : the more interesting point is
- OPERA is working if settings are set to SOCKET instead of HTTP

So I think there is a problem with port 80 or maybe DNS.

Hope this will help.

mo...@gmail.com <mo...@gmail.com> #271May 28, 2010 02:35PM

Ok just after publishing previous post, I found a topic who solved my problem.

It was only a wrong proxy settings provided by Proximus, I reset it as explained in the
post and everything is working great now.

See

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6403818 for more information

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #272May 29, 2010 10:09PM

Desire owners: I've installed the official RUU firmware 1.21.405.2 in my unbranded
Desire and 3g problem IS GONE!!! Search this number in google and you'll find it.
I've been 1 month and a half with this problem, HTC changed my Desire for another one
but it had the same problem. Now it's OK. It only takes 5 min to flash. Only Orange
branded have to be careful (search in xda forums).

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #273May 31, 2010 03:25AM

When i wanna update to 1.21.405.2 the pc screen says on a certain moment, bussy
sending... and stay's on that untill i unplugg the phone, any ideas what it could be?

se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #274May 31, 2010 08:42AM

********** POSSIBLE TEMPORARY WORKAROUND ***********

Have had the same annoying problem on an unbranded HTC Desire. Switching airplane
mode on/off or between 2G/3G or even mobile network on/off did not help.

BUT switching Wifi on/off *did*. Also changed wifi sleep settings as explained in

comment #221

, will keep you posted !

Anyway, this bug requires immediate attention : can't believe so many Android users
are concerned !

za...@gmail.com <za...@gmail.com> #275May 31, 2010 11:58AM

[Comment deleted]

za...@gmail.com <za...@gmail.com> #276May 31, 2010 12:20PM

SERIOUSLY GOOGLE, this needs to be upgraded to HIGH priority and fixed pronto with an OTA. How can you
possibly expect the android platform- which is considerably mature now to be adopted mainstream when users
have to toggle airplane mode, hard reset or power cycle their "smartphones" just to access the internet?

This is completely unacceptable

sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #277Jun 1, 2010 12:17PM

Same happening on my unbranded Desire with latest (official!) ROM. Bug happened on
all 3 ROMs I had.

Please fix.

de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #278Jun 2, 2010 03:13AM

Phone: Nexus 1 2.1 update 1

I don't know if this a change, or if I just figured it out, but if I, using apndroid,
turn on data while I still have wifi connected, the hand off works. If I turn off
wifi before I turn data back on, then I don't get a signal. Since I can't remember
the last state of the reception, I sometimes have to reboot to get things going
again. I would like to have everything turned off and turn on which ever connection I
wanted to use and have it work.

rd...@gmail.com <rd...@gmail.com> #279Jun 2, 2010 03:06PM

Hey Android team, this is not a medium priority issue, its top priority, it is
happening to my phone every single day.

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #280Jun 2, 2010 07:03PM

HTC Desire users:

Look at this web:

http://www.htc.com/europe/support.aspx

They have released a FOTA (Firmware Over The Air). The new firmware is 1.21.405.2.
And the new radio version (baseband) is 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2. As I told you in
my post #275, since I installed it, my 3G problem IS GONE.
Good Luck!

gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #281Jun 2, 2010 11:47PM

Re:

Comment #283

- I have recently downloaded the FOTA 1.21.405.2 and so far have not
experienced the problem..

ge...@googlemail.com <ge...@googlemail.com> #282Jun 3, 2010 07:36AM

I can confirm that since updating my HTC Desire to the latest firmware update
1.21.405.2 yesterday this bug hasn't occurred anymore, at least so far. I will test
this more extensively over the coming days, but so far it looks good.

ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #283Jun 3, 2010 09:55AM

One hint for Desire users who are going to install firmware 1.21.405.2:

If you use the RUU .exe version (for use in Windows and USB conexion) it will "wipe"
your phone (lose all data, contacts, calendar, etc) so backup before.
If you install the FOTA when your phone detects it (over the air) it won't wipe your
info (incremental update)

sv...@googlemail.com <sv...@googlemail.com> #284Jun 7, 2010 12:30PM

I installed the recent FOTA two days ago. Since the update the bug seems to be gone.
Software-Number: 1.21.405.2

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #285Jun 7, 2010 05:12PM

i confirm the same after the update, no problems any more, thx HTC! Now the phone is
the best i ever had!

hl...@gmail.com <hl...@gmail.com> #286Jun 7, 2010 08:33PM

Well, this might be a few months too late, but...

I pinned the issue down to Android not disabling WiFi fast enough when unplugging it from power. I would unplug the phone when leaving my desk. By the time I was out of WiFi range, in a lift, it couldn't successfully switch to mobile internet. I suspect it then just stuck with the last known working DNS (through the WiFi point) and never made any connections again.

To get around this, I wrote a tiny app that simply enables/disables WiFi immediately with the presence/absence of a power source.

PowerFi is available on the Android Market or here:

http://powerfi.co.uk

It's free, of course, and although as basic as it comes it should tide some people over until Froyo! :)

sr...@gmail.com <sr...@gmail.com> #287Jun 8, 2010 08:57PM

I am now running the froyo beta on my Nexus One and still having this problem. I don't seem to have this problem at all while I'm in the US using an ATT SIM, but it happens daily in Poland with my Orange SIM, if my phone is connected to Wifi for over a couple hours. Then I have to go into airplane mode, reboot, or go into phone info and turn the radio off then on in order to connect to mobile inet. The problem could be caused by my wifi router as well, but I've changed a bunch of settings on my router to no avail.

ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #288Jun 9, 2010 07:29AM

After the OTA update on my HTC Desire this issue seems to be solved
Software-Number: 1.21.405.2

g....@gmail.com <g....@gmail.com> #289Jun 9, 2010 02:18PM

what's the OTA update for HTC Hero to fix this issue ? It seems the above software number 1.21.405.2 is for HTC Desire only.... Or this is for HTC Hero also ?

j....@gmail.com <j....@gmail.com> #290Jun 9, 2010 04:46PM

The same for HTC Tattoo. Spain.

I confirm that changing to fly mode resolve the problem... but is not the solution.

ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #291Jun 10, 2010 02:16PM

The OTA update for the Desire has fixed this for me too. It isn't clear whether the resolution came from a code change from Google or whether HTC fixed it themselves, because nobody is communicating with the customer.

This whole issue has been extremely frustrating and I really feel for everyone with models that haven't been patched to fix this. I think everyone here is feeling deeply let down.

Google and HTC apparently need reminding that QUALITY MATTERS every bit as much as ticking off a list of features. The lack of quality is a real issue right now in Android devices right now.

I hope the fix makes its way out to the rest of you soon!

fl...@gmail.com <fl...@gmail.com> #292Jun 10, 2010 02:27PM

Have the latest OTA update, version number and baseband version matching those just above but still having these data connectivity issues.

Phone has now also taken to saying you have lost data connection because you have disabled roaming. I'm on 3 in the UK connecting to 3's network. Definitely nothing to do with roaming..

Clearly issues still exist and the problems are not completely resolved unfortunately.

fl...@gmail.com <fl...@gmail.com> #293Jun 10, 2010 02:28PM

[Comment deleted]

md...@gmail.com <md...@gmail.com> #294Jun 11, 2010 05:08PM

Add one more user to this list. I am using an Acer Liquid with the latest 2.1 Eclair ROM.

Kindly fix this ASAP.

ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #295Jun 14, 2010 11:13AM

I can confirm that since updating my HTC Desire to the latest firmware update
1.21.405.2 yesterday this bug hasn't occurred anymore, at least so far.

co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #296Jun 14, 2010 06:23PM

I just loose connection randomly,once a week,must reboot...airplane mode on off wont work,market gmail or internet gives network error....

ha...@gmail.com <ha...@gmail.com> #297Jun 18, 2010 10:29AM

After been in contact with HTC support here in Norway about this issue on my desire, they recomended to turn on data roaming in settings. After this (its some weeks ago) everything is working fine and the phone switch between wifi and mobile as expected. By having the warning tone when data roaming actually take place active, I still don't worry about cost with dataroaming. Give it a shot ;-)

ho...@gmail.com <ho...@gmail.com> #298Jun 20, 2010 05:34AM

Happens to me almost daily on Samsung Moment with 2.1. Any moto droid users have this problem??

gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #299Jun 23, 2010 04:47AM

Using the latest HTC Desire release (2.1-update1) I no longer have this problem with my phone. Although I suspect the problem actually disappeared when I disabled:

Settings > Wireless and networks > Mobile network settings > Enable always on mobile data

Unfortunately I haven't had time to confirm but haven't noticed the issues recently.. previously I was using the suggested fix of enabling airplane mode then disabling airplane mode after leaving the range of my Wireless AP.

rs...@gmail.com <rs...@gmail.com> #300Jun 24, 2010 04:00PM

The Samsung Moment has had this issue since its introduction in November. Repeated attempts have been unsuccessful in working with both Sprint and Samsung to resolve this issue. This has been very frustrating for many Moment and Android users to the point where people have either left the manufacture or the OS.

I would say this is my largest complaint with Android in that you don't know who to talk to report an issue: the manufacture, the carrier, or the Android team.

Sprint has set up a discussion to capture hardware/software versions and how to reproduce the problem. See

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/32744?tstart=0.

Also see the following links:

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/24237?start=0&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec (largest thread, please note that Sprint has recognized this issue on Nov 12 and the issue is still not resolved, please also look at the latest posts)

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/25550?tstart=0

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/27950?tstart=0

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/27570?tstart=0

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/27096?tstart=0

If this is a Samsung issue, please assist Samsung in fixing it! If not, please incorporate the fix in the Android OS.

fa...@gmail.com <fa...@gmail.com> #301Jun 27, 2010 10:11AM

The issue started just after updating my Desire to (2.1-update1) so i believe the update didn't solve the problem. Also, my Desire randomly looses mobile internet connection when i has been connected before. Suddenly, no internet.

st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #302Jun 28, 2010 07:18AM

I still have the issue with my Nexus One, 2.2 FRF83
Optus, Australia

st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #303Jun 28, 2010 07:19AM

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ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #304Jun 28, 2010 08:36AM

Hey i Iorget to tell u about that but I have a couple friends the used links to attach my phone we them I don't have i dea. How the do it and they dnt want to show me that why I'm learning bout my self. And I don't regreit. But if u guys can't do anything about it is alright I'm happy what u guys try to do 4 me....jacanasal69

co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #305Jun 29, 2010 11:13PM

Frf83 solved the problem! After having this issue for many months every day after leaving home.

Unfortunately, it seemed that the 3g connection didn't reestablish until you turned on the screen, so still impact for push and inbound connection services. But substantially fixed compared with always having to use a technique to reset the network stack.

UNTIL FRF85B apparently the final release!!!!!

The problem is now back again after a week of wonderful transitions between networks.

to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #306Jun 30, 2010 08:59AM

On my HTC Desire, the problem vanished after I deinstalled Advanced Task Killer. Seems this application ends a task that is required to switch between WLAN and 3G.

jo...@googlemail.com <jo...@googlemail.com> #307Jul 2, 2010 08:22AM

Have this Bug too, introduced with Cyanogen 5.07, still there 5.0.8 on G1

ge...@googlemail.com <ge...@googlemail.com> #308Jul 2, 2010 11:39AM

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ge...@googlemail.com <ge...@googlemail.com> #309Jul 2, 2010 11:45AM

Also with Samsung Galaxy S (GT-I9000) with Firmware 2.1-update1 (I9000XXJF3)

ai...@gmail.com <ai...@gmail.com> #310Jul 3, 2010 03:29AM

same issue here, samsung galaxy s firmware 2.1
3g connection sometimes not working after being "offline" for some time.
restart of mobile fixes this bug for some time.

na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #311Jul 3, 2010 07:22AM

Confirmation: this problem is still an issue on Froyo. Maybe it has something to do with the SIM card or the provider. A fix would be nice.

co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #312Jul 4, 2010 11:37AM

Using Nexus One with Froyo FRF91. The bug is still not fixed. :(

fe...@googlemail.com <fe...@googlemail.com> #313Jul 6, 2010 09:30PM

I've have a HTC Desire with the newest updates and this PROBLEM is not resolved.

Whats wrong with Google? It over 1 f.. year old and no real fix. To low on manpower? Hire sombody and fix this please!

fe...@googlemail.com <fe...@googlemail.com> #314Jul 6, 2010 09:30PM

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an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #315Jul 7, 2010 09:15PM

While all are still confirming this bug without any further help I posted my bugreport directly to one of the devs replying here. This bug is now tracked as an internal issue and hopefully resolved by upcoming updates.

For people who want to dig deeper into it, run "adb
bugreport > mybug.txt" and eventually you will find something like "07-04 22:13:33.590 I/gsm_service_state_change( 174): [0,0,0,1]". The dev told me, this indicates my nexus one lost registration with the data network.

Eventually you can reproduce this:
Connect your Nexus one to your Wifi, leave Wifi on even in standby
After two or three hours switch off Wifi access point.
Nexus one will search for Wifi networks, but does not connect to mobile data network any more.

Hope it helps and hope someone else will post bug reports too!

hu...@gmail.com <hu...@gmail.com> #316Jul 8, 2010 03:26AM

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hu...@gmail.com <hu...@gmail.com> #317Jul 8, 2010 03:27AM

Hi All,

I think we found the root cause of the issue: there is one limitation of the number of system properties in Android. It is set as 247 now. When the issue happens, the system properties has reached this max, and net.dns1 and net.dns2 can't be created. So no DNS server is set. Anybody can check the system properties (adb shell getprop > xx.txt) to see if your phone reaches the 247 system properties when issue happens again!

We will try to include this fix in our Motorola Android phones!

So GOOGLE, can you please enlarge this value and include it in your next release?!

Thanks!

Jianhai
Motorola

an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #318Jul 8, 2010 08:57PM

Jianhai, I tried again today and could reproduce the bug as written in #318. It has nothing to do with your dns thing. I had 167 properties when connection was lost.

rg...@google.com <rg...@google.com> #319Jul 8, 2010 09:27PM

Hi Jianhai,

While a limit on system properties could be a problem, the bug reports I've seen for this don't show that issue. I'd like to confine this issue to people who have wifi on for a long time and then can't regain mobile data. If you can regain mobile data by disabling/enabling airplane mode, this bug may be yours.

Andreas has found that on his device/carrier combo he loses GRPS registration after 3 hours. The phone won't try to reconnect on its own. I'm looking into it, but it may be a modem issue or a carrier issue.

If you have this problem and see the gsm_service_state_change with [0,0,0,1] like Andreas says, please post back with your device name, build and carrier and lets see if we can narrow things.

Thanks
Robert

hu...@gmail.com <hu...@gmail.com> #320Jul 9, 2010 02:56AM

Hi Robert,
OK. Seems there are several issues in this topic.

Thanks!

sr...@gmail.com <sr...@gmail.com> #321Jul 11, 2010 07:13AM

I've had this problem almost since the day I got my phone, but I recently bought a Play Mobile SIM, and since I switched it has not been a problem for me. I've not had to use the airplane mode toggle at all

I have a nexus one running 2.2 final. Here is the info for when I've had this problem and when it hasn't been a problem

AT&T Go Phone - Works
Play Mobile Poland - Works

Orange POP Poland - after a few hours of Wifi, I'm unable to reconnect to 3G or EDGE, without toggling airplane mode.

I still have my Orange SIM, and though I've switched carriers, I'd be glad to swap SIMs to help figure out this bug.

co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #322Jul 12, 2010 02:48AM

The following is my experience

Country: Australia
Phone: Nexus One FRF91.
Carrier: Vodafone Australia
3G fails to reconnect after a few hours on Wifi. Need to use Airplane mode on/off.

However, also noticed that if I go into a tunnel and lose all GSM signal, then 3G data will come back when I get back the GSM signal. ie without using Airplane on/off switch.

b....@gmail.com <b....@gmail.com> #323Jul 12, 2010 09:14AM

I'm also experiencing this issue.

ju...@gmail.com <ju...@gmail.com> #324Jul 13, 2010 06:51PM

Same issue here.
NEXUS ONE
Stock Froyo 2.2 FRF91
Poland
Carrier:Era GSM

Have this issue every day since I bought it.None of the both OTA updates helped.
I'm unable to use 3G after phone loses WIFI signal.Turning WIFI on/off,doesn't help.Sometimes switching between 2G/3G helps,other time I need to "reset to default" APN list in mobile networks settings.Reboot usually helps...
GOOGLE PLEASE FIX THIS,THIS IS IRRITATING,ANNOYING AND DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF NEXUS ONE AS A SMARTPHONE.
We've been struggling with this issue long enough.

la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #325Jul 14, 2010 08:36AM

Same issue here.
NEXUS ONE
Stock Froyo 2.2 FRF91
Sweden
Carrier:Tre

@juppie's tip about "reset to default" APN did fix it for me. I'm suspecting that the application Toggle Settings introduced the problem for me. The problem occurred while I was testing it out. Unfortunately, uninstall didn't fix it either, but "reset to default" APN did, at least for now. I'll report back if i get the problem again.

ju...@gmail.com <ju...@gmail.com> #326Jul 14, 2010 07:37PM

@Lars.gelin and other Nexus One owners.I found recently that using "Enable data" checkbox under "Mobile networks" settings restores 3G(data) connection quite reliably.
It does not solve the issue,but at least it allows me to force phone into 3G data mode while I'm outdoors.HTH

pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #327Jul 15, 2010 12:20AM

Is anyone using SwitchPro Widget / Power control widget or an application similar? i.e. A widget app that can be used to quickly switch Wifi and or Data Connection on and off?

The reason why I asked, is my friend had the symptoms people discuss, the inability to ever connect to a Data Connection after leaving WIFI connection zone for a period (few hours?) whilst WIFI connected. As a technophobic, he asked me to investigate, I found this thread and tried everything : powering off and on, changing APN, switching 3G->2G->3G, switching Airplane mode and the other suggestions, nothing worked. I uninstalled his SwitchPro Widget (v1.8.1), rebooted et voila Data Connection worked again straight away. Coincidence?

His phone details:
HTC Desire
2.1-update 1
UK
Carrier : O2

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #328Jul 15, 2010 07:21PM

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bu...@gmail.com <bu...@gmail.com> #329Jul 16, 2010 03:56PM

I got the same issue. I'm with optus(aus) and have the galaxy s with 2.1. I got a new sim as optus suggested but no change. I just know it's a software issue.

At the moment I am just turning airport mode on and off to get back connectivity.

We all need a fix asap.

t....@gmail.com <t....@gmail.com> #330Jul 17, 2010 09:26AM

Same problem on HTC Desire with Android 2.1.
Started after using the phone for a few weeks, very annoying, as I don't like Opera as an alternative for the native browser!
There should be an update or fix ASAP, as said above!!

la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #331Jul 18, 2010 10:22PM

@paulzip: I made the same observation as you did, my problems with no mobile data connection started after I installed the app "Toggle Settings". Problems gone after uninstall of "Toggle Settings" + juppie's tip about "reset to default" APN.

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #332Jul 24, 2010 04:56AM

Can someone from Google please confirm that they are working on this issue? We need to have this fixed ASAP as this is VERY VERY annoying. @people who turn airport mode on/off... you can just enable 2G for a sec and then switch back to 3G. Just voted for this issue!

th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #333Jul 25, 2010 01:25PM

Hi! Trying to create a bug report on my Samsung Galaxy S, but getting the following error: "Failed to connect to dumpstate service". How can I get around this? Cheers, T

ge...@gmail.com <ge...@gmail.com> #334Jul 29, 2010 11:35PM

I don't use Wi-Fi and I have the same problem - no 3G access and I can't get it back using any of the workarounds. It worked for about a week after I got my Desire and then went never to return.

How long before someone needs to threaten a Class Action suit to get this resolved?

ge...@gmail.com <ge...@gmail.com> #335Jul 29, 2010 11:44PM

Just a question - has everyone voted on this issue - it is currently number 2 on the defect list and only superceded by a defect relating to an animated GIF!!! Also I wonder how many "lost connection" issues are actually related but have been started as new topic because symptoms are a bit different?

Surely this has to have priority over Enhancements..we can use our phones as intended!!

t....@gmail.com <t....@gmail.com> #336Jul 31, 2010 12:17PM

This issue is getting extremely annoying! While on 3G/HSDPA I am unable to surf, but a lot of apps also use the native browser for looking up results and more. None of these work now! In order to use my phone as intended I have to walk around searching for open WiFi networks so I can finally chat!
Already installed opera mini as an alternative, but don't like the browser at all!

This should be a priority on the fix list, but it's only marked "medium", very nice, for a key feature that's not working!!

pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #337Jul 31, 2010 01:50PM

If anyone is expecting a fix for this or even a comment on its progress any time soon, forget it. Google will continue to ignore....and ignore..month after month. It's an absolute joke. Look at the issues list- some are years old, how many have been addressed, even have a comment from someone at Google? I work writing software, to have defects on my list that have been unresolved for a month or more, let alone over a year, without progress updates at least is disgusting and unheard of. My project manager would be on me like a ton of bricks, as in any measure of support it is totally unacceptable. Whomever is in charge of Android support should be brought to task. Medium severity for something so important and disabling to the device's function, what a joke?! What classifies as high or critical? I predict this'll still be unresolved in 2010. Hello? ? SOME PROGRESS UPDATE PLEASE! ! !

mb...@gmail.com <mb...@gmail.com> #338Jul 31, 2010 07:41PM

This issue only happens in my i5700 if I use a widget to switch on and off the APN. Widgets that adds a prefix to the APN host or change the APN type will eventually encounter this bug. A solution is to add an APN without any settings and switch between this APN and your valid APN. Using this method, I haven't encountered the bug in days. Switching between 2 APN settings seem to reset the network stack as opposed to just changing a parameter in an APN setting.

t....@gmail.com <t....@gmail.com> #339Aug 1, 2010 07:37PM

I just figure out that in my case it was not an Android issue.
Seems like in the APN settings for my provider there was a proxy set, which I apparentally didn't need.
I removed the ip for the proxy and the browser works fine for me now on 3G.
I found this through another thread on some android forum. Funny thing is that there were people from all over the world with this problem who also had the same solution working from them, so does not seem completely provider related. I think there might be some errors in the pre-set APN data or something....

In my case it was Proximus (BE) a Vodaphone brand....

ru...@googlemail.com <ru...@googlemail.com> #340Aug 2, 2010 01:56PM

@ Google: please fix this bug! it is very annoying to switsch between 2g and 3g !!!
No workaround worked for me.

ge...@gmail.com <ge...@gmail.com> #341Aug 3, 2010 05:13PM

I have had this issue with both HTC Dream and HTC Desire with both stock and custom ROMs. I am starting to think this *could be* related to the phone not being able to communicate wth the network providers access point, even though the phone thonks the connection is already active. As this happens after a long period of time on Wifi without mobile data connection active, I have the following idea:

Could it be that the phone tries to "resume" the mobile data connection, while the cariers access point has dropped the connection? Sort of like the iPads IP-lease problems, trying to continue a connection it should, instead, have "restarted".

I have no recent ad to attach, seeing as I uasually debug with my laptop using adb, but I guess I could install a log app.

But are there any more logs needed anymore? Is the problem solved, they are just working on a solution?

As usual with Android bugs, the follow ups from devs or google reps on the issue tracker is just so bad it is pathetic. Two thirteen year old boys with a hobby projects care more about their users and giving them feedback than google does. It is a shame, really.

pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #342Aug 4, 2010 01:48PM

I having new samsung galaxy s i9000 with android 2.1 and spanish carrier Yoigo. A couple of days ago it started to happen to me the same issue. I tried enabling 2G, airplane mode, restoring APN's and nothing. I will trying restoring the whole phone to defaults.
Previously I has a samsung galaxy spica and had the same problem with the only difference that toggling to airplane mode was solving the problem.
I detected also same problem on my syster tattoo.
Really bad issue on android OS. An synchronized phone losses all its sense if you do not reconnect automatically to 3G.
Hope android developers will work on it or we shall swap to iphone...

pj...@gmail.com <pj...@gmail.com> #343Aug 6, 2010 05:35AM

I have found a permanent solution - it is called iPhone 4. All problems have now gone away.

to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #344Aug 9, 2010 06:09AM

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to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #345Aug 9, 2010 06:21AM

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to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #346Aug 9, 2010 06:27AM

I have also now got this problem, using 2.1 (leaked Motorola beta) on a CLIQ (well, DEXT, same difference).
I have done a lot of investigating of the issue, and have found out when it happens.
When you boot the phone up from power off in, say, your home WiFi area with wifi enabled, the DNS etc gets setup for your home wifi no problems, but the net.rmnetX info does NOT get set up. If you boot the phone up with wifi disabled, then the net.rmnetX.dnsX gets setup properly, and toggling between wifi and not auto-adjusts the net.dnsX info with either the DHCP obtained address for net.eth0, or from the GPRS/3G address from net.rmnet (and net.dnschange gets incremented, it actually does also when rmnet doesn't exist, but will cause net.dnsX to be blank when wifi is disabled with no rmnet configured dns info). There seems to be some kind of bootup race condition that causes the 3G/GPRS connection to not be setup correctly if the phone is booted up with wifi enabled (and the phone is in an area where you have approved it to connect to an access point at the time of bootup).

Booted up with WiFi disabled, relevant getprop info:
[

gsm.eons.name]: []
[gsm.network.type]: [GPRS]
[net.gprs.http-proxy]: []
[net.rmnet0.dns1]: [211.29.132.12]
[net.rmnet0.dns2]: [61.88.88.88]
[gsm.defaultpdpcontext.active]: [true]
[net.dns1.186]: [211.29.132.12]
[net.dns2.186]: [61.88.88.88]
[net.dns1]: [211.29.132.12]
[net.dns2]: [61.88.88.88]
[net.dnschange]: [1]

Booted up with WiFi enabled:
[dhcp.eth0.result]: [ok]
[init.svc.dhcpcd]: [running]
[dhcp.eth0.pid]: [178]
[dhcp.eth0.reason]: [BOUND]
[dhcp.eth0.dns1]: [192.168.0.2]
[dhcp.eth0.dns2]: []
[dhcp.eth0.dns3]: []
[dhcp.eth0.dns4]: []
[dhcp.eth0.ipaddress]: [192.168.0.109]
[dhcp.eth0.gateway]: [192.168.0.2]
[dhcp.eth0.mask]: [255.255.255.0]
[dhcp.eth0.leasetime]: [86400]
[dhcp.eth0.server]: [192.168.0.2]
[net.dns1]: [192.168.0.2]
[net.dnschange]: [3]
[

gsm.eons.name]: []
[gsm.network.type]: [GPRS]

no net.defaultpdpcontecxtactive key, no net.gprs.http-proxy key, no net.rmnet0.dnsX keys.

Hope this info can help pinpoint the issue a bit better,
Regards
Tony

in...@googlemail.com <in...@googlemail.com> #347Aug 9, 2010 07:33AM

The same issue with samsung galaxy s 9000. Only happens when wifi sleep policy set to never, so my wireless network stays on all the time when I at home. And as already mentioned here happens only after relative long period of time. At the moment every morning when I want to leave my wifi I have to reboot my phone. What is really strange that as I can see this bug is here for more then 1 year and still not fixed...

we...@gmail.com <we...@gmail.com> #348Aug 9, 2010 12:16PM

Same here with the HTC Desire. Move away from WI-FI bang goes the Internet. As this issue has been going on for a year, is it really that difficult for someone at google to come forward and at least make a comment on this? Do I really have to keep restarting my phone every time I move trough a WI-FI enabled area. Come on guys, this was reported over a year ago and still no fix for it.

da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #349Aug 10, 2010 07:58AM

Same here with HTC Hero. Been experiencing this problem since 1.5, and on 2.1 now.

tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #350Aug 14, 2010 04:04PM

I too am having this problem - Nexus One, Virgin Mobile (AU). If I have the Wifi sleep policy set to "never" or "never when plugged in" and the phone is connected to Wifi for a while, then I lose the data connection when I disconnect from the network. The only way to turn the data connection back on is to manually cycle it through "use 2g only" (airplane mode and rebooting the phone probably work too, but I haven't tried). It's not a game breaking bug, but it is very annoying having to wait while the phone reconnects to the network twice to get 3G going again.

I did discover that if both the Wifi and 3G icons are in the status bar at the same time, the problem doesn't occur. Trouble is I have no idea how I managed to get it into that configuration. It just sort of happened one night and then when I disconnected and reconnected to Wifi, the Wifi icon overrode the 3G icon like it normally does.

da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #351Aug 17, 2010 03:42AM

This issue has almost disappeared after I stopped using custom ROMs on my Hero. I've reverted to using the official OTA Android 2.1 update. Now switching between WiFi and 3G works most of the time, in fact haven't had any issues since I stopped flashing custom ROMs (VillainROM 12, MoDaCo r5).

For some reason most of the custom ROMs I flashed did not set the APNs for my 2G/3G Mobile Internet correctly. The official 2.1 update is the only one that properly detected and automatically filled in all the settings for my network carrier correctly.

pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #352Aug 19, 2010 08:36AM

Same problem on my HTC Legend with 2.1 Very anoying !

Does anybody know if the issue is still present in 2.2 ?

da...@googlemail.com <da...@googlemail.com> #353Aug 19, 2010 01:37PM

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hl...@gmail.com <hl...@gmail.com> #354Aug 22, 2010 01:32PM

I have solved this issue for my use case by automatically managing WiFi more aggressively with an app. I've put PowerFi (open source) out there for anyone who needs it.

After three months of testing, I've proved (to myself at least) that this is caused when I move from a WiFi area straight into a area with no mobile access at all. I can only speculate that there is a flaw in the way Android handles switching its registered DNS server.

PowerFi immediately disables WiFi on unplugging the phone, giving it a chance to switch to mobile internet while signal is still available (in my case, before I then walk into a lift). Android, by default, only allows fallback after 15 minutes.

My HTC Desire 2.1 (UK) has been trouble free ever since. If you're the type who likes to keep WiFi on all day, it probably won't help you, but if not, give it a whirl.

st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #355Aug 24, 2010 06:59AM

Problem still occurs with Android 2.2 (HTC Desire, Vodafone Germany). No switch to 3G after leaving WiFi coverage while phone is in stand-by mode. Switch seems to work when phone is awake.

ve...@gmail.com <ve...@gmail.com> #356Aug 24, 2010 08:24AM

Same problem with HTC Desire, Elisa Finland
Android 2.2

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #357Aug 28, 2010 06:01AM

HTC Desire
Android 2.1

I think I found a solution...in my case. I was having the same problem as everyone else. Then the APN settings kept me going anyways.

I just searched for my provider's APN settings in this link:

http://support.bell.ca/en-on/Mobility/Smartphones_and_mobile_internet/How_to_configure_a_mobile_phone_or_smartphone_for_the_Bell_Mobility_HSPA_network?step=3
Then I looked at HTC's website how to add a new APN through this link:

http://www.htc.com/europe/howto.aspx?id=695&type=1&p_id=312

Now my problem was I bought this phone then had it unlocked and used another provider (my HTC Legend was stolen).

Anyways hope this helps

du...@gmail.com <du...@gmail.com> #358Sep 4, 2010 05:53PM

Samsung Galaxy S
Android 2.1
Same Problem. Mostly occurs the first time (each day) when I leave my house (where we have WiFi). My girlfriend (also Galaxy S) has this problem, too.
Very annoying, only airplane mode on-off helps.

ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #359Sep 4, 2010 08:54PM

Ich habe die selben Probleme wie alle anderen hier auch.
Sobald man mehrere Stunden im WLan ist, dann außerhalb der Reichweite des WLan netzes geht, wird nicht automatisch auf das mobile Internet umgeschaltet.
Das nervt und es kann ja wohl nicht sein das dieses Problem schon seit über ein Jahr besteht.
Hier sind ja auch Beiträge aus März 2009,....also wirklich, ändert das!

HTC Desire
Android 2.1
T-Mobile

pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #360Sep 7, 2010 01:06PM

Hi,

I’m one week without problems now, maybe this will help other people:

I own a Legend (2.1) since two months and was suffering from this issue since day 1. Even On-Off or switching to Airplane mode did not fix the issue for me. Sometimes my Megend simply refused to connect to my mobile network.

At the day I started using my Legend, I entered the SIM card in the phone and the APN settings where configured automatically.
Last week, I went into the settings menu, selected the active APN for checking the settings, I saved the settings without changing anything (press menu button -> save) and since then this issue did not occur on my Legend.

Now my Legend is correctly moving from WIFI to EDGE to HSDPA and vice versa…
Fingers crossed ;-)
Peter

ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #361Sep 9, 2010 07:31AM

same issue here. but even rebooting doesnt solve it. only way for me to reconnect is to reboot my access point. then switch wifi encyrption then delete wlan entry in android then set encryption on access pont back then connect. a real pain...

me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #362Sep 11, 2010 04:05AM

HTC Desire
FroYo
OPTUS (TPG)- Aust

Don't know if this is the same issue, but I'm having issues with connection to 3G on Optus (TPG). I can't use the default browser for data on 3G, but it works with other apps though, e.g. facebook and market. Have downloaded Opera Mini and have no problems getting internet on 3G. Issue with Opera Mini is it doesn't have flash and I need that, plus I don't like it.

Have tried other browsers from market, e.g. dolphin, skyfire, but without success. Only Opera Mini works. Any suggestions?

Megs

ow...@fraser-green.com <ow...@fraser-green.com> #363Sep 19, 2010 10:14PM

I've been experiencing the issue on a Samsung Galaxy S 2.1_update1 but in trying to collect debug information, I think I may have found a workaround which prevents 3G from being disabled when Wi-Fi becomes active. I can only assume this exploits another bug. With a phone with Data Connection and Wi-Fi enabled do the following:

1. Disable Wi-Fi.
2. Enable and then disable flight-mode so the phone can establish a 3G connection.
3. Disable Data Connection in the Mobile Networks settings menu.
4. Reboot the phone.
5. Enable Data Connection. You should now get a 3G connection.
6. Enable Wi-Fi. You should now get a Wi-Fi connection in addition to the 3G connection. However, in my case the DNS was wrong so:
7. Disable Wi-Fi and re-enable it again.

Now I'm able to go in and out of Wi-Fi and the 3G connection just persists.

vl...@gmail.com <vl...@gmail.com> #364Sep 24, 2010 11:00AM

This bug (3G connected in the same time with WiFi) bring me a higher bill from my network provider...
Phone showed me I was connected to WiFi but instead of using WiFi connection the phone used the 3G connection so my traffic was much higher then expected.
Few youtube clips cost me around 130 euros...
(HTC Desire with Android 2.1 update 1)

Hope this bug was repaired by now. Now I use Android 2.2 build 2.10.405.2

an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #365Sep 24, 2010 04:08PM

same here. Nexus One, from Android 2.1 to 2.2.1 (FRG83).
Carrier is MTS (250 01), different sim cards.

ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #366Sep 27, 2010 03:12PM

I have been experiencing this issue since ever since I've purchased the phone about a month ago. I use a Nexus One on the Vodafone Australia network.

The only way I deal with it is going to airplane mode and back. I've tried to resolve the issue via editing APN values, changing wifi policy, changing radio bands, but nothing seems to make the problem go away. Its driving me nuts because I need to reset my internet several times a day.

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #367Sep 27, 2010 07:17PM

Samsung resolved this in Firmware JM1 which IMHO is Android 2.1.1

th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #368Oct 5, 2010 09:44AM

I have this issue with a Nexus One on the Optus network in Australia.

To get mobile data working again, I can either go into and out of airplane mode, search for mobile networks and let the phone automatically select, or I can force the phone to use 2G only, then allow it to use both.

ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #369Oct 6, 2010 04:48PM

FIX FOR HTC LEGEND (APPARENTLY)

I had the same problem on my Legend (2.1) following a factory reset, but I followed the instructions on

comment #363

and it seems to have resolved it:

go to Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile networks -> Access Point Names -> Vodafone Post-pay ISP [or equivalent] -> 'Menu': Save (without making any changes)

It didn't work the next day, but did the following day and the problem seems to have permanently disappeared since. Sorry I'm not a technical person so can't explain why, but I hope that helps.

mk...@gmail.com <mk...@gmail.com> #370Oct 13, 2010 09:34AM

Had this problem on my Desire. Now OK after 2.2 update. Was that coincidence?

ju...@gmail.com <ju...@gmail.com> #371Oct 16, 2010 03:00PM

I have the latest 2.2.1 on Nexus One and this affects me yet.

gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #372Oct 19, 2010 09:35PM

I have been getting the same problem on Motorola Milestone. It seems to be since I upgraded to 2.1.1. I have to do a reboot in order to switch to 3G and also again when I go back onto WIFI.

I did a reset, and this has not fixed it. Very annoying.

he...@gmail.com <he...@gmail.com> #373Oct 22, 2010 03:39PM

This is a DNS Problem. To partially solve that (while Google doesn't fix it) get a program named ConnectBot. When you connect via 3G mode (after beign connected via wireless), just open this program, login in local mode and type "setprop net.dns1 8.8.8.8" and return. That's it.. It sucks, but it's better than reboot the phone.

pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #374Oct 23, 2010 11:53PM

I have a Legend on AU-Optus running build 1.31.405.5, I'd also like to add my name to the list waiting for fix.
Note I have reported to HTC CZech .

Do you require any log files?

pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #375Oct 25, 2010 07:34PM

I can confirm that re-saving my Mobile data APN fixed this issue for me on my HTC Legend.

ie go to Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile networks -> Access Point Names -> [your APN] -> 'Menu': Save (without making any changes)

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #376Oct 29, 2010 06:48AM

I have tried all of the above but nothing seems to work, I have a HTC Desire on 2.2 and on Vodafone and it keeps on dropping the 3G and some times the wireless connection. I love the phone and love the Android software but Google need to sort out the issue with the loss of 3G, this must be software problem not hardware because of the different types of phones and networks people are on.

Please sort Google otheriwse i might just go over to Microsofts Mobile 7

pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #377Nov 2, 2010 12:04AM

note despite working for a while the problem has returned, so there must be some corruption of the APN

vi...@gmail.com <vi...@gmail.com> #378Nov 6, 2010 12:32AM

I've got this problem on a daily basis. The only solutions I've found are to either go into Airplane Mode or to restart the phone. Quite a lame workaround, but I've got no other option until this is fixed.

jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #379Nov 16, 2010 09:38PM

My cliq was up graded to the 2.1 and I have had this problem from day one and its been about 3 weeks now --- looks like this has been going on for a while and no body has fixed it yet?? :-)

he...@gmail.com <he...@gmail.com> #380Dec 14, 2010 02:55PM

As stated in

comment #382

, I saw the same problem since upgrading my Motorola Cliq to OS version 2.1: when changing between WLAN and cell networks, DNS settings would disappear (as shown by "getprop net.dns1"), essentially making that network mode useless until the next reboot.

I think I found a workaround: disable Bluetooth and reboot.

As mentioned in

http://androidforums.com/motorola-xt720/152159-wifi-problem-android-2-1-a.html#post1525728, the Android property system has a limit on the max # of entries of 247. On some devices, this database runs full, and entries that were not allocated immediately after boot cannot be added any more. This seems to often happen to the DNS related ones. From the above posting, it appears that the Bluetooth system will use a few entries when enabled, so disabling it makes it possible for multiple network to create their DNS records.

I don't know if the blog entry is correct, but for my phone disabling Bluetooth and rebooting fixed the problem for the time being.

al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #381Dec 22, 2010 12:28PM

I'm currently running Android 2.2.1 on my Nexus One, and it seems to have solved this problem.

tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #382Dec 27, 2010 10:14AM

I still have this problem on 2.2. 1 (Nexus One). I solve it by switching from 3G to 2G and back.

dr...@gmail.com <dr...@gmail.com> #383Dec 31, 2010 02:13PM

This problem is caused within the android and linux reconnect to a wifi network code.

Ubuntu 9 had this same reconnect problem. They fixed the bug by Ubuntu 10.10.

Android is trying to reconnect, over and over, until it drains my oversized battery. I can watch the connection and after connecting normally the first day with correct passwords, it then tries to reconnect later and fails.

It constantly cycles through:

Scannning..
Connecting..
Obtaining IP Address from NETGEAR... (this is a netgear wnr 2000)
Disconnecting..
Scannning..
Connecting..
Obtaining IP Address from NETGEAR... (this is a netgear wnr 2000)
Disconnecting..
Scannning..
Connecting..
Obtaining IP Address from NETGEAR...
Disconnecting..

My Evo will cycle through this same sequence all day long while I am at work until it drains an oversized battery by 2pm and it stays warm.

My Evo has the exact same reconnect failure at home on my WIFI network there.

The fix is for google programmers to port the WIFI reconnect bug fix from Ubuntu.

I can work around the issue and avoid the reconnect failure by only connecting to WIFI manually and disconnecting when done and never reconnect automatically.

ha...@gmail.com <ha...@gmail.com> #384Jan 1, 2011 11:36AM

Had the problem on my N1 since some weeks. Maybe caused by update to android 2.2.1? Anyway, it was solved when I 'reset to default' the APN. It changed from 'mms' to 'internet' (T-mobile NL).
I now think that something corrupted the APN settings a few weeks ago. Everything seems to work fine by now.

bu...@gmail.com <bu...@gmail.com> #385Jan 6, 2011 04:14PM

Hello everyone,
I'm a new user of Android, i just purchased a HTC (MyTouch 4G) last week in US, but i live in Venezuela, and i have problems, i can't connect my phone to a 3G network, i configured the APN data and the phone got connect to the internet buy in EDGE network no in 3G, i thougth that it could be a problem of my ISP, but i made a test inserting my SIM card on a Iphone 3G and the iphone get connect to the 3G network inmediately and so easy with the same apn settings of my Android. How can i do to connect my android to a 3G network? This phone doesn't show me a 3G settings like iphone does. I installed many apps like, apndroid, quick settings, etc. and i still can't connect.

ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #386Jan 13, 2011 12:16PM

I have experienced this issue on a Nexus S running Android 2.3.1.

ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #387Feb 1, 2011 02:04PM

I have this same problem, T-Mobile Cliq in US running Android 2.1. If I am connected to WiFi for a long time (3+ hours) and then turn off my WiFi access point my phone displays the 3G connection icon but has blank DNS entries for WiFi (normal) and network (bad). When trying to load a webpage in Browser I get Page cannot be displayed unless I go directly by IP.

I tried the following to resolve, none of these actions fix the problem. The only reliable way to fix the problem is to completely reboot the phone or turn on Wifi. In the use case that I have left the house the latter is not possible. This is, as some have mentioned, nearly as egregious as the phone not being able to make calls.

Please investigate this, I am willing to help. Is there any way to force the DNS value to be set or to trigger it re-request it from the network provider?

I do not have any task killer, and do not have root access.

Here are some things I tried to resolve the problem without reboot:

1) I set up a dummy APN as described above, I switched to this APN and switched back to T-Mobile. Did not work.

2) I cycled in and out of Airplane mode. Does not work.

3) I tried to set the DNS in ConnectBot using setprop (setprop net.rmnet0.dns1 8.8.8.8 -- also tried net.dns1 and net.rmnet.dns1, unsure which is correct), it appears to work (no error) but checking with getprop yields same blank value. Browser shows same failure behavior.

4) I ran the phone debug menu (*#*#4636#*#*), this has a turn radio off button, I turned the radio off then turned it back on, this did not work. Also in here is a ping test, running this yields a failed test. I have screenshots if that helps.

Here are selected results of a getprop on my usb debug connected computer:

[

net.bt.name]: [Android]
[net.change]: [net.dnschange]
...
[init.svc.bluetoothd]: [running]
[dhcp.eth0.result]: [failed]
[init.svc.dhcpcd]: [stopped]
[dhcp.eth0.pid]: [224]
[dhcp.eth0.reason]: [STOP]
[ro.runtime.started]: [1296532908530]
[dhcp.eth0.dns1]: []
[dhcp.eth0.dns2]: []
[dhcp.eth0.dns3]: []
[dhcp.eth0.dns4]: []
[dhcp.eth0.ipaddress]: [192.168.1.3]
[dhcp.eth0.gateway]: [192.168.1.1]
[dhcp.eth0.mask]: [255.255.255.0]
[dhcp.eth0.leasetime]: [86400]
[dhcp.eth0.server]: [192.168.1.1]
[net.dns1]: []
[net.dnschange]: [6]
[gsm.version.ril-impl]: [Qualcomm RIL 1.0]
[init.svc.hfag]: [stopped]
[gsm.sim.operator.numeric]: [310260]
[gsm.sim.operator.alpha]: [T-Mobile]
[gsm.sim.operator.iso-country]: [us]
[gsm.sim.state]: [READY]
[gsm.stk.event.useractivity]: [0]
[gsm.current.phone-type]: [1]
[init.svc.hsag]: [stopped]
[init.svc.opush]: [stopped]
[init.svc.pbap]: [stopped]
[EXTERNAL_STORAGE_STATE]: [mounted]
[gsm.operator.alpha]: [T-Mobile]
[gsm.operator.numeric]: [310260]
[gsm.operator.iso-country]: [us]
[gsm.operator.isroaming]: [false]
[

gsm.eons.name]: [T - Mobile]
[gsm.version.baseband]: [76XXC-63805041-SDCBALUM]

No net.defaultpdpcontecxtactive key, no net.gprs.http-proxy key, no net.rmnet0.dnsX keys.

I have a debug log. What relevant sections do you want?

Is there anything else I can do to help resolve this?

System Version

Blur_Version.2.1.5.MB200.T-Mobile.en.US
Firmware Version 2.1-update1
Kernel Version 2.6.29 build01@ca25rhe78#1
Build number ERD79

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dr...@gmail.com <dr...@gmail.com> #388Feb 2, 2011 04:09PM

Have the same problem on my new Dell Streak with Froyo 2.2. After some hours being in WLAN, -always after the night-, not exactly sure what the time limit is, I won't get net access through the Mobil Network automatically. I always have to reset my APN, click : search for favorite Network automatically or choose my Provider manually, both works. Then it registers again in the Network and stays online for some hours before it logs out for hell knows reason. Annoying like a little Tamagocchi! I reported it to my Provider. They say: report it to Dell. I did, no answer so far! No wonder! As I learn here this is a long known problem and it meets all kind of Android Smartphones and also with various Android OS. How lucky I was with my HTC Hero before. Where is the "Hero" to solve this bug??

le...@gmail.com <le...@gmail.com> #389Feb 9, 2011 11:04AM

I have the same issue on my HTC Desire 2.2. I have just noticed today and nothing seems to fix it at the momment

ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #390Feb 14, 2011 03:25PM

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fa...@gmail.com <fa...@gmail.com> #391Feb 14, 2011 08:07PM

Same issue here
Google nexus S with gingerbread 2.3.2
carrier is celcom, country Malaysia
None of workaround is working except reboot phone. Please help

Didn't root or flash, all is default

fa...@gmail.com <fa...@gmail.com> #392Feb 14, 2011 09:03PM

oh my goodness, i tweak steps in 366 and now it's working fine for me.
steps:-

1. Disable Wi-Fi.
2. Reboot the phone.
2. Now the phone should establish a 3G connection.
3. Disable Data Connection in the Mobile Networks settings menu.
4. Reboot the phone.
5. Enable Data Connection. You should now get a 3G connection.
6. Enable Wi-Fi. You should now get a Wi-Fi connection.
7. Switch of your modem or router (to simulate out of wifi coverage) it will switch back to 3g now.

tested while the phone on standby and active, transition works flawlessly.
phone google nexus s
carrier celcom, MY
OS gingerbread 2.3.2

na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #393Feb 27, 2011 06:31PM

In a few days, this issue will have its 2nd birthday. I have a Nexus One and had the hope, that Gingerbread would finally fix it. It didn't. It's so annoying!

Everytime I leave the house, I have to enter and leave flying mode and re-enter my PIN. If I forget it, no connection will be established via 3G or 2G. Never. Ever.

I'm really really wondering what could possible take so long to fix this really really annoying bug. I'm not blaming people. Normally. But this bug makes me angry.

If you (the developers) can't reproduce the problem, then I'm perfectly willing to send my phone to you. Have a look at it yourself. Do all the debugging, whatever it will take.

So annoying!! :((

sg...@gmail.com <sg...@gmail.com> #394Mar 5, 2011 03:40AM

Every Android phone I've owned has had some flaw that has made it almost useless. Nexus One, EVO, Vibrant, Nexus S all have some problem. Vibrant always drops the wifi and won't come back unless I toggle it off and back on.

al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #395Mar 12, 2011 11:30AM

For my Nexus one the same as 396 above. I have tried all the tricks. Only way to keep it connected is leaving wifi off and 3g on all the time. I hoped Gingerbread would fix it but no luck. Done Hard resets, different networks, etc etc. Love everything about Android apart from this, like Ubuntu used to be, Android is a PITA with WIFI.
Come on Google, there are hundreds of threads on this issue,

pr...@gmail.com <pr...@gmail.com> #396Mar 14, 2011 11:53AM

Same issues as above, I believe it is a radio issue. How many people have baseband 76XXc-63805041-SDCBALUM ?

ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #397Mar 20, 2011 11:48PM

Hi all,
I found a little workaround an want to share with you.

Using a scheduling app like "setting profiles" I'm able o tell the phone to stay connected to wifi for only 30 min once I activate it manualy.

With this rule, I never have to use the flight mode to recover 3g data.
If I put 45 minutes the problem appears.

Regarding this, I thing that our problem is related with some deep sleep or someting like that

I also set the wifi to turn ON each 10 minutes and set sync ON; this way I sync via wifi 4 times per hour.

Hope this helps

ar...@gmail.com <ar...@gmail.com> #398Mar 22, 2011 08:28AM

Nexus One with Gingerbread. Same issue for me. Never saw this before with 2.1 or 2.2 and only seems to happen after being on Wi-Fi at home overnight. Didn't start happening immediately after Gingerbread upgrade but only a week or so later.

re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #399Mar 22, 2011 09:52PM

I have had this problem for some weeks now. Desire Z. I have had no problems previously, but now my data acces speed is ~5kbps. and the H does not turn on anymore, only 3G

I was already blaming my carrier, but they said nothing is wrong. Then i decided to check if this was some problem others have, and i'll eb damned, exactly the 3G only no HSDPA from other desire / desireZ users are all over the net.

I really would like to ha ve a fix for this soon, since practically no net for me until then, the current mode is comparable to 56k modem.,

ed...@gmail.com <ed...@gmail.com> #400Mar 28, 2011 10:10AM

This happens to my Desire Z running #31 too. Maybe this fix will sort it out:

https://review.source.android.com//#change,22011

da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #401May 4, 2011 02:12PM

Same issue here for LG O2X

gu...@gmail.com <gu...@gmail.com> #402May 5, 2011 03:24PM

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fx...@gmail.com <fx...@gmail.com> #403May 25, 2011 03:10PM

It's more than two years now that this bug was reported and confirmed. Why on earth hasn't this been fixed a long time ago? This issue is really very annoying.

go...@gmail.com <go...@gmail.com> #404May 27, 2011 08:39AM

I also have this problem on my Nexus One when leaving the range of my WiFi network and wanting to make use of my mobile providers data server but only started to see it after Google pushed out the OTA update to Android version 2.3.4 (build number GRJ22).

My work around for the moment (like others here) is to switch the phone into Airplane Mode and then back again. The phone then immediately reconnects to the Mobile data network

bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #405May 28, 2011 03:09PM

I used to have this problem. But now I no longer experience it.
I'm running Android version 2.3.4 (Build GRJ22) like

comment #407

on a Nexus One.

Maybe the operators network is involved and my operator has changed something?

sp...@gmail.com <sp...@gmail.com> #406Jun 3, 2011 12:24PM

To all the ones who mentioned O2 Germany and HTC Desire. The Desire was an original O2 supported phone. Please call O2 and get transferred to the "Data Support Hotline". They refused to open a ticket, because I complained regarding my Nexus. This was not a supported O2 phone they say.

With HTC Desire its a different story. I realized its mainly a problem with O2 and not in every region in Germany. Some areas work, some not.

su...@gmail.com <su...@gmail.com> #407Jun 9, 2011 12:27AM

This workaround seems to fix this problem: disable wireless and restart the phone, disable mobile data and restart the phone, finally re-enable wireless and mobile data, and going from one to the other should work again...

Good luck!

ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #408Jun 17, 2011 05:06AM

Nothing yet! What the hell is up with Google? I'm on HTC Desire S with android version 2.3.3.

I move from wifi zone to non-wifi zone and the phone doesn't always automatically connect to 3G. It will connect fine 80% of the time (so not as bad as the others commenting on the forum) but still the 20% of the time I have to pull down the notification bar and then 'turn off' and 'turn on' the Mobile Data switch. Only then does the phone connect to 3G. The setting 'wifi sleep policy' is set to 15 minutes so all fine there.

Not sure what's going on. Has anyone managed to fix this problem on the HTC Desire S yet?

bh...@gmail.com <bh...@gmail.com> #409Jun 30, 2011 10:05AM

It started happening on my phone after the last update to 2.3.3.
I have tried switching "Mobile Network" on and off and it works very rarely.
the only thing that seems to help is turning Airplane mode on and then off and then wait for the phone to connect to EDGE connection.

Given that this problem was reported in 2009 I have a question for google. What are you gonna do about it and when?

da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #410Jul 1, 2011 05:55AM

My HTC Desire HD has the same problem on ATT in the US and China Unicom in China. Data over 3G was working, most of the time. Then I was at home for a couple days using WIFI. Today I went out and cannot get the 3G to come back. It did work momentarily, but it is gone again. No amount of turning WIFI on/off, airplane mode on/off, restarting, rebooting has gotten it back.

ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #411Jul 5, 2011 04:11AM

I can't believe this problem continue. It happen to me, but with EDGE connection. After disable wifi, I have to restart my phone to get the EDGE connection again.

Enable and Disable airplane mode doesn't work for me.

ar...@gmail.com <ar...@gmail.com> #412Jul 18, 2011 02:33PM

I think it's more than wifi. I have similar issues when leaving airplane mode (Atrix) I will attach to the network, but often data doesn't work.

gm...@gmail.com <gm...@gmail.com> #413Aug 10, 2011 10:47PM

Same for me here... I have a Samsung Galaxy Ace with Gingerbread 2.3.4, wifi sleep set to never (that's what I want, I don't want 3G traffic while I'm at home).. Turning on 2G networks and then off seems to help so I don't have to reboot my phone.

rf...@gmail.com <rf...@gmail.com> #414Sep 6, 2011 02:33PM

Does anyone have a sprint epic 4G who has this problem. i consider myself a medium knowledge user and heard of cdma phones having issues so does anyone know how to help me out!? Thank you in advance for any help

ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #415Sep 13, 2011 11:19AM

It happens very often on my honeycomb tablet device that the market start to download from wifi, but remain at 0% forever. If i cycle WiFy switch (off than on) it resumes and the download starts. The same happens to other application syncing on the net.

I think there is a nasty bug into network infrastructure that make unable to silently "recover" from connection errors, requining an hard reinitialization of wifi, radio, etc.

Curiously, my froyo phone does exactly the same but when returning from sleep... full wifi coverage but unable to transfer data unless switching off than on wifi.

This is a REAL issue that need to be addressed, as it is making android experience very annoying to a lot of people.

yv...@gmail.com <yv...@gmail.com> #416Oct 21, 2011 07:13AM

Wow, how frustrating to find this

issue 36907297

, thought it was only my phone and the cLK bootloader set up...
I have attached a log when it happened again, I startet with screen off on off on, then I disabled wifi, waited, disabled data, waited, enabled data, waited, airplane mode, waited, no airplane mode, select carrier, wifi on and off again and data on and off again and then end with screen on and off twice.

On the good side, I was pointed to this app:

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.symsoft.wififixerfree#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLnN5bXNvZnQud2lmaWZpeGVyZnJlZSJd
Will give it a try and hope it solves my problem, maybe it helps one of you too.

Anyhow, Big G, please give us some feedback on this very annoying issue, have you found and solved anything in ICS?

I run CyanogenMod 7.1.0 (2.3.7.) on a EU HD2 over cLK.

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mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #417Nov 8, 2011 10:54AM

Even the Nexus S, 2.3.6., does this. Come on, you can't be serious giving this "Priority: Medium". What can I do to help, what kind of logs do you need?

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #418Nov 8, 2011 11:41AM

This is what happens between leaving my home (with WIFI) and _not_ getting a 3G connection (until (not in log) switching to airplane mode and back, which always works for me):

11-08 10:24:13.511: DEBUG/WifiWatchdogService(110): (android.server.ServerThread) wurst (40:3c:fc:02:90:8f) does not require the watchdog
11-08 10:24:33.535: WARN/ProcessStats(110): Skipping unknown process pid 16404
11-08 10:24:33.542: WARN/ProcessStats(110): Skipping unknown process pid 16408
11-08 10:25:44.566: INFO/TelephonyRegistry(110): notifyDataConnection: state=0 isDataConnectivityPossible=false reason=apnSwitched interfaceName=null networkType=8
11-08 10:26:04.515: INFO/TelephonyRegistry(110): notifyDataConnection: state=1 isDataConnectivityPossible=true reason=apnSwitched interfaceName=null networkType=8
11-08 10:26:13.082: INFO/TelephonyRegistry(110): notifyDataConnection: state=0 isDataConnectivityPossible=false reason=apnFailed interfaceName=null networkType=8

az...@gmail.com <az...@gmail.com> #419Jan 2, 2012 05:02PM

has this been fixed in ICS?

ty...@gmail.com <ty...@gmail.com> #420Jan 6, 2012 07:05PM

INCREASE PRIORITY, PLEASE. This is happening every day to me. Restarting the phone to recover this is reminding me of why i quit using Blackberry

ne...@gmail.com <ne...@gmail.com> #421Jan 8, 2012 11:18PM

I have encountered this problem as well, most recently on January 6th. HTC Desire on the Rogers network on Canada. I'll capture any logs required and follow any suggested settings changes.

ad...@thekks.net <ad...@thekks.net> #422Jan 16, 2012 03:20PM

Jan 16th. Cyanogen Mod 7.1 stable on HTC Desire with Telus Canada.

Interestingly enough, never had this issue with the stock froyo on the HTC Desire.

lr...@gmail.com <lr...@gmail.com> #423Feb 15, 2012 02:39PM

I was experiencing this problem on my Samsung Galaxy Ace and tried a few of the apps from the market mentioned here but they didn't work for my exact problem. I wrote an app to automatically toggle Flight mode on/off when leaving Wifi if 3G doesn't activate - it works for me on my phone but your mileage may vary. This app will only work if the manual "Flight mode" on/off trick works for you.

I just published this app on the market, it's called "3G Connection Fix Free":

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lrm4android.tgcfFree

so...@gmail.com <so...@gmail.com> #424Feb 29, 2012 01:04PM

Plese fix it... this bug follows me from HTC hero 1.6 up to HTC HD2 4.0.3.

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mu...@gmail.com <mu...@gmail.com> #425Apr 4, 2012 09:12AM

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ge...@gmail.com <ge...@gmail.com> #426Apr 9, 2012 11:04PM

Yo tenia el mismo problema en mi galaxy ace S5830L y encontre la solucion aca

http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=348833
espero les sea util.

mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #427May 22, 2012 12:14PM

I have the same problem, but only with one particular network provider (Vodafone) in the UK.

It sucks having to flight mode the phone almost daily to establish data.

al...@googlemail.com <al...@googlemail.com> #428Aug 6, 2012 10:34AM

People who are experiencing this problem, how are your APN(s) defined, specifically the APN type(s)?

My network pre-configured my handset with a single APN with types 'default,mms,supl'. I configured three separate APNs, one each for default, mms and supl (so that MMS messages wouldn't attempt to send/download over WiFi if they were received whilst connected to WiFi). When I did so, however, switching from WiFi to 3G only worked for a few seconds (I think until the GPS subsystem tried to download updated AGPS data). I had to toggle 3G off and on again for it to work.

By adding ',supl' to my new default APN (i.e. so it becomes 'default,supl') I seem to no longer experience this. I've kept my separate 'mms' APN for reasons explained above.

[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #429Oct 11, 2012 02:32PM

I was having an issue that was similar and I just got tired of it and changed phone systems. I don't want to have to keep dealing with it.

http://www.prime-communications.com/solutions/types/telecom/voip/

jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #430Nov 15, 2012 05:30PM

Thank you for the info Alexander.

My APN was defined as "Internet" . I changed it to "default" and voila... problem fixed.

This issue has been haunting me for months, finally I got rid of it.
Turned on and turned off my wifi and my mobile data connection is still on. Tried many times just to make sure.

de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #431Nov 20, 2012 03:31PM

I have been having this issue ever since I hacked my HD2 and installed Android and it's driving me insane. It should be able to switch between WiFi and Mobile Data without these issues. Why is this only a Medium priority?

aj...@gmail.com <aj...@gmail.com> #432Dec 20, 2012 12:33AM

Recently started to experience this on Nexus S w/Android 4.1.2. Any solutions?

pi...@gmail.com <pi...@gmail.com> #433Dec 20, 2012 07:27PM

I'm having the same problem on my Galaxy Nexus with 4.1.1

ml...@gmail.com <ml...@gmail.com> #434Jan 5, 2013 02:02PM

I have the same problem with nexus 4!

si...@gmail.com <si...@gmail.com> #435Jan 5, 2013 05:02PM

Same with o2 and nexus 4

da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #436Jan 5, 2013 06:55PM

The same issue with my Nexus 4 and O2 germany

az...@gmail.com <az...@gmail.com> #437Jan 6, 2013 11:40AM

The same issue with my Nexus 4 and O2 germany

ds...@gmail.com <ds...@gmail.com> #438Jan 6, 2013 08:37PM

The same issue Nexus 4 and O2 germany ;) fix this please!

t....@gmail.com <t....@gmail.com> #439Jan 7, 2013 02:27PM

Same problem here.
Nexus 4 Android 4.2.1, Tele2 Sweden.

Here's another (newer) thread

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40514

pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #440Jan 7, 2013 07:24PM

same issue in nexus 4 on o2 too,
so maybe not a nexus 4 problem at all but something from o2 germany?

ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #441Jan 8, 2013 01:57AM

Sony Xperia S on GingerBread 2.3.7:

The problem seems to disappear after re-installing my APN settings (from mobile network provider).

Notable change is my internet APN type -- prior to the update it was "default,supl,a-gps". After the re-installation, the type changed to "default,supl".

pr...@googlemail.com <pr...@googlemail.com> #442Jan 12, 2013 02:33PM

this bug is so bad. same problem with nexus 4 on o2 germany. why can't this be fixed???

la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #443Jan 16, 2013 12:02PM

Ok, so it seems there are two issues in this thread:

1) After leaving a wifi network, there is no data connection (no H/3G/E/whatever icon is displayed) but cellphone reception is fine (calls can be made/received).
2) The data connection is established (H/3G/E/whatever icon shows up) but it is not possible to access anything over the internet (sounds like a DNS issue as mentioned multiple times in this thread).

I myself experience the first problem and currently use the workaround of toggling AIRPLANE MODE. This works everytime but is annoying because it requires manual interaction. There are apps to do this for you in Google Play, but my provider forces me to enter my PIN code to unlock my SIM after toggling airplane mode, which makes all these apps useless. Most people who use these roms don't have the issue, so this makes me think it 's a combination of provider (APN) and these rom 's.

I have an HTC DESIRE HD and never had any issues using the stock rom (Gingerbread). All Sense ICS roms I used neither had this problem but all non-Sense ICS and JB roms do have the issue.

What I don't understand is that this has been around since 2009 and still hasn't been resolved (nearly 4 years later).

Please Google, don't ignore us and look into this.

ma...@donotreply.at <ma...@donotreply.at> #444Feb 6, 2013 07:41AM

LG Nexus 4 on Android 4.2.1, stock ROM, Hutchinson 3 Austria.

Leaving WLAN network area WIFI stays active, no 3G data connection. Turning WIFI manually off everything works as expected.

12...@googlemail.com <12...@googlemail.com> #445Feb 6, 2013 02:00PM

Hi,
when I leave WiFi in about 80% it does not use the data connection, telephone connections are still possible, but no internet.
deactivating data connection or WiFi does not help. not even airplane mode.

Galaxy Nexus on 4.2.1 JOP40D and this Bug onla appeared with the last OTA-update. previously no problems with this bug. now quite annoying...

th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #446Feb 7, 2013 09:13AM

"After leaving a wifi network, there is no data connection (no H/3G/E/whatever icon is displayed) but cellphone reception is fine"

Same here with
* Galaxy Nexus
* Nexus 4
Stock Android 4.2. Network: O2 Germany.
I have to enable/disable airplane mode to get mobile internet again.

mi...@googlemail.com <mi...@googlemail.com> #447Feb 9, 2013 09:33PM

I have the same problem with my nexus 4 latest update. Mobile internet starts working fine after restarting the phone.

fa...@gmail.com <fa...@gmail.com> #448Feb 10, 2013 08:45AM

Same Problem here -> No 3g with my new Nexus 4!

I became aware of the problem when I noticed that the 3g signal strength of my iPad - which was lying directly next to the nexus 4 - went through the roof while the Nexus 4 only had this H-symbol and a veeeeeeery lame internet connection.

Network carrier for both devices: O2 Germany

fc...@gmail.com <fc...@gmail.com> #449Feb 19, 2013 08:36AM

As commented in #445 changing manualy the APN type from "internet" to "default,supl" the problem disappears.
Then, in my case solved problem.
Thanks everyone for your contributions.

jb...@android.com <jb...@android.com> #450May 31, 2013 06:33PM

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Status: New

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Status: Won't Fix (Obsolete)

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