Issue 63: Modification required in PPT
Status:  Done
Owner:
Closed:  Apr 2009
Reported by postri...@gmail.com, Feb 19, 2009
Hello everyone,

This mail is to discuss the cause of being judges 4th at IITK, this will
help us in improving further our PPT and other such stoofs.


From My side:

->	The project is not completly innovative
->	The Online thing is innovative in our project
->	Even the open file is relocated is the major high light of the project
->	In the PPT we need to Highlight the above two points
-> 	rather that explaining "What HSM is ?" for 3 mins we should just define
it in simple words
->	After that we can begin "What OHSM offers " highlighting the +ves of
OHSM and -ves of other systems.
-> 	A dedicated slide for Tricky copy algo should be there but will be
shown to selected people
->	We need to highlight that "we have reduced all the limitations present
in this field"
->	coloured chart (flex printing) 
-> 	Improving co ordination among team members


Kindly add to it
Feb 19, 2009
Project Member #1 imreckless@gmail.com
The first thing i would like to mention is that
the judges were not having the context of OHSM
and they were moving to design when the got bored with theory 
and then things were pretty confusing for them.
And what was said to them was disastrous.
Like "Data theory"..and other matlabi stuffs. ;)

The very first thing that we should start from is, why HSM?

"Data is getting cheaper day by day and cost of administering (managing)
 the data is getting high" 

Then speak about that not every data is treated equally. The data that is not being
accessed is stored in a cheaper disk to reduce storage cost and remember say
cheaper(not that it is stored in a low quality disk, I/O is less poor quality disk
that we have bee saying)

We have a hierarchy of storage and we move data accros the disks according to
the priority of data, between costlier and cheaper disks.

Not a thing extra from this is required.

And OHSM : the online stuff and our own relocation algorithms to serve the purpose,
we have tried to resolve the demerits of other HSMs like name space change etc...
If the judge insists then only explain in detail...

This much is enough for the judges to have a context of what OHSM is, should not
take more than 2 minutes.

Explain allocation and relocation policies and criteria.
Another 2-3 minutes here.

Move on to design.. tiers, LVM, DM, Parser all will be explained in design very well.
5 minutes here

Explain the working
Explain relocation algorithm.....

And future works etc...

One more important thing..
Proper coordination, dont jump straightaway in the middle
when one is speaking, let the person stop then speak.

Judges ask something and all start speaking together.
Speak one at a time.



Status: In-progress
Feb 19, 2009
#2 postri...@gmail.com
The jumping in between was not seen but when a question was asked .........


So according to RKS major changes are in the 2nd and 3rd slides

We need to work on the starting of the PPT

Any system level project will appear boring to Application judges .... so the atten
has to be drawn from the begining
Feb 19, 2009
Project Member #3 imreckless@gmail.com
That's what my motto is , explain everything in short about OHSM
and jump quickly to design and working.


Feb 19, 2009
#4 postri...@gmail.com
yes ....

let SKS reach the head quarters and we will do that
Feb 21, 2009
Project Member #5 sneha.hendre@gmail.com
Judges should be given a site of what they want from our project. Whether they want a
design or he is unknown of HSM itself (The mozilla wala person). Every person has
different sites and different direction of thinking. 

First point out what the person is interested in and then proceed further with his
interest. Its on time decision. Sitting here and predicting the flow is useless. We
have to be prepared for every thing.

Tell them the +ve points and if they get any of the -ve points then only the things
should be explained.Till then we are best (and off course we are). Just have to show
that this one is best and incomparable.

What happened was we told them we will do this we will do that and this is not there
that is not there instead we should tell what is there and how is it useful and it
can be enhanced more.

Every thing is fair in love and war ;)

Questions of judges should be answered properly.
Questions asked were different and the answers given were different this should not
happen(the very first judge, response to him from our side was ridiculous). Better
take half a minute think and then answer instead of wrong answering.
Feb 27, 2009
#6 postri...@gmail.com
Let us start with this work 
Mar 7, 2009
#7 postri...@gmail.com
PPT has to be changed to fit into the time limit of 10 mins.

It is the requirement of IIT Roorkee.

Deadline is 8th March
Mar 14, 2009
#8 postri...@gmail.com
The PPT is finalized and sent to Roorkee.

We will be using the PPT of Roorkee henceforth
Apr 24, 2009
#9 rishi.b....@gmail.com
The PPT is finalized and can be found on the downloads section.

Stay tuned
Status: Done