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ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #2
This can be tested by running the score test found here:
http://html5demo.momac.net/
I just spent all day programming an important use of HTML5 Web Workers (company project) and I find it only works on Android phones that have not been upgraded to Froyo. To make matters worse, Google Gears was removed in Eclair, so I can't even fall back on that.
It would be nice if this could be promoted to High priority, as I am sure HTML5 compliance is an important part of building mobile web-enabled devices.
I just spent all day programming an important use of HTML5 Web Workers (company project) and I find it only works on Android phones that have not been upgraded to Froyo. To make matters worse, Google Gears was removed in Eclair, so I can't even fall back on that.
It would be nice if this could be promoted to High priority, as I am sure HTML5 compliance is an important part of building mobile web-enabled devices.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #3
My bad. It seems that the variable window.Worker is defined in Eclair, but is not actually usable. Froyo seems to ameliorate this by not defining the variable at all.
This test succeeds on Eclair:
window.Worker != undefined
A better way to test for this functionality would be:
typeof(window.Worker) === 'function'
This test succeeds on Eclair:
window.Worker != undefined
A better way to test for this functionality would be:
typeof(window.Worker) === 'function'
sg...@android.com <sg...@android.com>
ya...@gmail.com <ya...@gmail.com> #4
Is this functionality intentionally disabled? Bug 36915899 implies that it worked at some point, and the following IBM article claims that web workers are available on Android: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-html5mobile4/index.html
I'm currently using Gingerbread on a Nexus S, and both my own script andhttp://diveintohtml5.org/detect.html#workers claim that web workers aren't supported:
Uncaught ReferenceError: Worker is not defined
I'm currently using Gingerbread on a Nexus S, and both my own script and
Uncaught ReferenceError: Worker is not defined
sg...@chromium.org <sg...@chromium.org> #5
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an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #6
I miss this feature so much from Android :-(
jo...@catnook.com <jo...@catnook.com> #7
I've been playing with the first full release of the Honeycomb SDK (not the preview version).
According tohttp://html5test.com/ , the Browser provided in the emulator still lacks any Web Workers support.
Please, Google, I beg thee, do not allow Android to become the IE6 of the smartphone space.
According to
Please, Google, I beg thee, do not allow Android to become the IE6 of the smartphone space.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #8
I've found the log to disable this feature in config.h android 2.2.
Hope they will add this feature back soon.
===log===>
commit 68698168e7547cc10660828f1fb82be7a8efa845
Author: Steve Block <steveblock@google.com>
Date: Wed Mar 17 14:37:19 2010 +0000
Disable workers
This is because V8 on Android does not have the required locking.
Also disables channel messaging, which is used only with workers.
Bug: 2522239
Change-Id: I6cb91b4048c7e1a0351e422561625397a2e98986
Hope they will add this feature back soon.
===log===>
commit 68698168e7547cc10660828f1fb82be7a8efa845
Author: Steve Block <steveblock@google.com>
Date: Wed Mar 17 14:37:19 2010 +0000
Disable workers
This is because V8 on Android does not have the required locking.
Also disables channel messaging, which is used only with workers.
Bug: 2522239
Change-Id: I6cb91b4048c7e1a0351e422561625397a2e98986
va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #9
Does anyone know if this has been reintroduced in 3.0-3.2?
mk...@android.com <mk...@android.com> #10
I have a Motorola Xoom with 3.1 (waiting for my 3.2 OTA...) and http://html5test.com/ still reports that there are no Web Worker features available.
I'd love to know when V8 on Android catches up with Google Chrome. I will be a very happy monkey when Android WebKit has all the same features as Google Chrome on the desktop.
How is Mozilla able to offer all the same features in Firefox 4 /5 regardless of platform? Firefox on Android has all the same JavaScript and HTML5 features as Firefox on Windows / MacOSX.
I'd love to know when V8 on Android catches up with Google Chrome. I will be a very happy monkey when Android WebKit has all the same features as Google Chrome on the desktop.
How is Mozilla able to offer all the same features in Firefox 4 /5 regardless of platform? Firefox on Android has all the same JavaScript and HTML5 features as Firefox on Windows / MacOSX.
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #12
Hi,
While experimenting with Android 4.0 IS, I found that WebWorkers are not supported on it. Does this fix address that issue ?
1. After this fix, do webworkers work on Android ?
2. If yes, then installing a nightly build should do it for me, Is that correct ?
3. Would you happen to know the public release vehicle for this feature ? i.e. when is the next update of android slated ?
4. Also, if webworkers do work, can one access the WebSql database from inside of WebWorkers ?
regards
While experimenting with Android 4.0 IS, I found that WebWorkers are not supported on it. Does this fix address that issue ?
1. After this fix, do webworkers work on Android ?
2. If yes, then installing a nightly build should do it for me, Is that correct ?
3. Would you happen to know the public release vehicle for this feature ? i.e. when is the next update of android slated ?
4. Also, if webworkers do work, can one access the WebSql database from inside of WebWorkers ?
regards
ch...@absmax.com <ch...@absmax.com> #13
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aw...@gmail.com <aw...@gmail.com> #14
It seems Worker is not supported in ICS, and based on the branch timing, the fix seems not included in ICS branch.
aw...@gmail.com <aw...@gmail.com> #15
See here for a comprehensive review of WebKit in Android 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich" by Sencha:
http://www.sencha.com/blog/galaxy-nexus-the-html5-developer-scorecard
Web Workers are not supported in ICS.
Web Workers are not supported in ICS.
jo...@catnook.com <jo...@catnook.com> #16
Yeah, I can see they are not supported in ICS. Just trying to find out what the plan is. Is there a plan to support them at all ? If yes, when ?
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #17
As per the earlier understanding the WebWorkers was disabled after eclair, that means
from froyo it was disbled.
Does this mean that the feature will still work in ICS even though it has issues,if enabled?
Experimented by enabling WebWorkers in ICS by 'ENABLE_WORKERS 1' and 'ENABLE_CHANNEL_MESSAGING 1' in config.h andAndroid.derived.v8bindings.mk .
Even though the below checks are passing with 'truetrue' after enabling WebWorkers in ICS,but a full-fledged webworkers testcase is still failing.
document.write(window.Worker != undefined);
document.write(typeof(window.Worker) === 'function');
As per webkit bug:61016 (https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61016)(http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/93330)the fix was done for the 'In-process dedicated workers' in chromium port of webkit.So this implementation has to be ported to android as well, to support WebWorker fully in android?.
from froyo it was disbled.
Does this mean that the feature will still work in ICS even though it has issues,if enabled?
Experimented by enabling WebWorkers in ICS by 'ENABLE_WORKERS 1' and 'ENABLE_CHANNEL_MESSAGING 1' in config.h and
Even though the below checks are passing with 'truetrue' after enabling WebWorkers in ICS,but a full-fledged webworkers testcase is still failing.
document.write(window.Worker != undefined);
document.write(typeof(window.Worker) === 'function');
As per webkit bug:61016 (
gg...@gmail.com <gg...@gmail.com> #18
I looked into this last year, and what I found was:
Web workers won't work with the V8 javascript engine available in Android. It worked in Eclair, since JavaScriptCore was the JavaScript engine. V8 (as it exists in Android) doesn't support multiple execution threads.
You can try building with JSC enabled as the javascript engine, and enable web workers; but JSC is a bit slower.
Hope this helps.
Web workers won't work with the V8 javascript engine available in Android. It worked in Eclair, since JavaScriptCore was the JavaScript engine. V8 (as it exists in Android) doesn't support multiple execution threads.
You can try building with JSC enabled as the javascript engine, and enable web workers; but JSC is a bit slower.
Hope this helps.
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #19
Well, I don't have words to describe my disappointment... This was my last problem with Android.
ma...@chromium.org <ma...@chromium.org> #20
This seems to be working in Chrome for Android.
Google has basically stopped developing the original Browser application, and I am guessing Chrome will replace it in Android 5.0.
If you are running an older version of Android that cannot install Chrome, then your problem won't be solved here unfortunately. Only tickets about the latest available code have even a slight chance of getting Google's attention here (sad but true).
Google has basically stopped developing the original Browser application, and I am guessing Chrome will replace it in Android 5.0.
If you are running an older version of Android that cannot install Chrome, then your problem won't be solved here unfortunately. Only tickets about the latest available code have even a slight chance of getting Google's attention here (sad but true).
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #21
I also tested reddit.com with your code.
The problem happens when you zoom in to a level where you can read the text comfortably. When you do this, the lines are not wrapped and you need to scroll from left to right to read each line, which is very annoying for the user.
This could be achieved with previous webview with NARROW_COLUMNS.
Is there a way to emulate this wrapping / reflow behavior with chromium?
The problem happens when you zoom in to a level where you can read the text comfortably. When you do this, the lines are not wrapped and you need to scroll from left to right to read each line, which is very annoying for the user.
This could be achieved with previous webview with NARROW_COLUMNS.
Is there a way to emulate this wrapping / reflow behavior with chromium?
va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #22
Are you google people purposely pretending not to understand the problem? Is this some diversionary tactic to avoid acknowledging that you've broken something?
One more time just in case you really don't understand. We are talking about TEXT WRAPPING. In the old browser when you zoom a page to a legible size, the text reflows so that you don't have to scroll from side to side. Saying that it "works as intended" is saying "yes, we removed a vital feature for no reason, too bad".
One more time just in case you really don't understand. We are talking about TEXT WRAPPING. In the old browser when you zoom a page to a legible size, the text reflows so that you don't have to scroll from side to side. Saying that it "works as intended" is saying "yes, we removed a vital feature for no reason, too bad".
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #23
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sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #24
Yes, it is obvious. Google is probably trying to pressure web developers into creating mobile friendly websites instead of relying on text wrapping. It is very annoying going to a new version of android and losing features. Back on gingerbread I had flash (amazon prime videos) and text wrapping. Now I have neither. Wonder what we lose next
el...@gmail.com <el...@gmail.com> #25
Fix this or give us a proper working AOSP browser in return.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #26
It is a scandal, the Nexus 5 is 50% worse for browsing the web.
aw...@gmail.com <aw...@gmail.com> #27
I was thinking that perhaps Android could replace my laptop. I guess that idea is ludicrous if it can't even render a webpage legibly. I'm going to have to go crawling back to Ubuntu and ask that it forgive my wandering eye. Really, honey, it was just a fling. That other OS means nothing to me!
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #28
Even this page does not perform as intended, simply double tap the comment column to expand it, and watch the left column overlay the comments.
But that is probably an artifact of whatever JavaScript they use to keep that block in view.
But, if you have severe visual limitations, and need really large text, that floating block begins to obscure everything else.
Please, developers, consider not just how you perceive things should work, but how your uses may NEED them to work to survive.
But that is probably an artifact of whatever JavaScript they use to keep that block in view.
But, if you have severe visual limitations, and need really large text, that floating block begins to obscure everything else.
Please, developers, consider not just how you perceive things should work, but how your uses may NEED them to work to survive.
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #29
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ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #30
Can the comitter PLEASE prioritize this issue up? This is definitely NOT a small issue. I'm using a Wiki app which is not usable now. What else can be done to start a bigger wave towards Google in this case?
gg...@gmail.com <gg...@gmail.com> #31
can anyone answer this question. Is this just an issue with the Nexus 5 or is this going to happen to any phone that gets upgraded to 4.4?
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #32
Re #32: It is an issue on my Nexus 7 (2012).
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #33
Re #32: It happens on every Android 4.4 device
gg...@gmail.com <gg...@gmail.com> #34
Wow! Unbelievable. Thanks for the info. Was just going to switch to a Note 3, but that sounds like it will not help either once the 4.4 update hits. Was just reading my android news off the android news app -- used to be so easy and now it takes forever to get through one article because of this problem.
Would rooting the phone and putting on CM or another 4.4 ROM fix the issue?
Would rooting the phone and putting on CM or another 4.4 ROM fix the issue?
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #35
#21 What exactly is the point of your post? Your screenshot shows that the text is so small as to be unreadable.
You guys keep saying "this is WAI", "this is WAI" but stop waving the Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) in our faces and explain the real WHY.
People with poor eyesight are telling you that KitKat is basically unusable. The screenshots in post #7 clearly show the problem.
You've already got the antitrust issues based on this issue:http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=62799 Do you think waving WAI around will save Google from lawsuits brought forward based on the Americans with Disabilities Act?
You guys keep saying "this is WAI", "this is WAI" but stop waving the Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) in our faces and explain the real WHY.
People with poor eyesight are telling you that KitKat is basically unusable. The screenshots in post #7 clearly show the problem.
You've already got the antitrust issues based on this issue:
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #36
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jo...@catnook.com <jo...@catnook.com> #37
It would seem that with this change, Google has decided that it is only interested in targeting people with good eyesight. Or maybe the people that work on this code are all young and literally don't see the problem. The AOSP browser was working just fine for me. What good is increased Javascript performance if I'm having a hard time reading the damn webpage? You call this progress?
I now regret buying a Nexus 5 at least a little bit because of this behavior.
I now regret buying a Nexus 5 at least a little bit because of this behavior.
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #38
Its been weeks since this glaring error was released, why hasnt it been fixed? Has there even been a comment from anyone on the development team saying how it slipped through and why it isnt fixed yet?
ya...@gmail.com <ya...@gmail.com> #39
WAI? Realy?
Would you please shed more light on the "I" part of the WAI?
Would you please shed more light on the "I" part of the WAI?
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #40
Dude, "Works As Intended" not web accessibility.
(I too can't understand why a broken stock browser is considered WAI.)
(I too can't understand why a broken stock browser is considered WAI.)
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #41
Who knows what they're really talking about. WAI or WAI, it doesn't change reality.
aw...@gmail.com <aw...@gmail.com> #42
I've been using my Nexus 4 with Kit Kat some more. Okay, I'm starting to come around. Most sites display pretty good. Much less zooming than I used to have to do. Some sites still aren't on board yet but I'm seeing fewer of those all of the time. Chrome is actually quite usable now. Other browsers work well also if the wide viewport is turned off. But in all honesty, I'm liking Chrome. Still, if you should have to zoom in, you have scroll back an forth to read the text. Not the way to read a page.
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #43
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ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #45
UC Browser works properly
gr...@grasshoppersglasgow.com <gr...@grasshoppersglasgow.com> #46
UC Browser does indeed work properly. Well, it's a little rough in places, but it auto-flows text brilliantly. Could someone perhaps explain how it is able to do this when the likes of Firefox and Dolphin can't and Chrome won't? I notice that it's only the 'phone' version of UC that does this - the 'HD Tablet' version can't reflow either. Mine's a Nexus 7 2. Thanks Gabe - I can get back to reading the web!
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #47
I would not use UC Browser because of the insane permission requirements. Anyway, based on the size of the download, they may be working with their own WebView. Another possibility is that in sending all of your traffic through their servers they manipulate the HTML.
The response to this bug is not unexpected. Google used to be a shining light for the "Hacker Ethic", but increasingly I see shenanigans. Maybe these developers are pressured and deep down they know better. If so, I understand, but don't pretend you don't know what text wrap is. And if you're going to throw around TLAs then at least have the courtesy to explain them.
WAI == What An Insult
The response to this bug is not unexpected. Google used to be a shining light for the "Hacker Ethic", but increasingly I see shenanigans. Maybe these developers are pressured and deep down they know better. If so, I understand, but don't pretend you don't know what text wrap is. And if you're going to throw around TLAs then at least have the courtesy to explain them.
WAI == What An Insult
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #48
This is really a serious issue. It impacts almost all the HTML based eBook readers as the reflow is one of the most important functions for HTML based reader. All the users and developers get suffered. I spent almost all the thanks giving holiday trying to find a work around. My app start getting many complains and 1 ratings because of this issue. Google, please take a serious look at this issue.
va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #49
While UC browser works, its not a good idea to trust your web activities to a proprietary browser by an unknown company. Remember, a "free app" that is closed source and still manages to make money = they are collecting and selling your data.
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #50
Yeah i am a bit suspicious of uc browser as well and generally don't like
it much so while I am reading my news pages with it (text reflow is a MUST
HAVE feature) I still have chrome for other uses. Must say I was in danger
of being a Google fanboi but this issue and the widespread dumbing down of
android that is Kit Kat has all but cured me.
I didn't expect to regret my decision to wait for the nexus 5
it much so while I am reading my news pages with it (text reflow is a MUST
HAVE feature) I still have chrome for other uses. Must say I was in danger
of being a Google fanboi but this issue and the widespread dumbing down of
android that is Kit Kat has all but cured me.
I didn't expect to regret my decision to wait for the nexus 5
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #51
I sold my Nexus 5 because of this issue. Nightmare, Google, shame on you.
ch...@absmax.com <ch...@absmax.com> #52
Thanks to Wugfresh I've gone back to Jellybean on my N7. Firing up my usual sites in Dolphin was a joy. I guess I'll sit this one out until Google figure out what WAI means. I have no illusions that they ever will (see Microsoft, who are nowadays clueless about UI), so in a couple of years when it comes time to update the tablet hopefully something else will have come along. It's been educational... cheers!
my...@gmail.com <my...@gmail.com> #53
I have to say that the broken AOSP browser really is a no go for me. I will be looking at windows devices in the near future if this isn't fixed. The address bar doesn't hide, no flash(which will still a major part of the web despite being phased out), and no text wrapping. Chrome would be an OK browser if it had text wrapping, flash support and the AOSP browser's quick controls. Please give us a working AOSP browser for 4.4+!!!!!
gg...@gmail.com <gg...@gmail.com> #54
Has anyone put the new cyanogen 4.4 Tom on to see if it fixed this problem?
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #56
There is no workaround in the thread posted above. That is an Aosp browser, with pie controls working. Text reflow still does not work. I'm not sure if this is another plot to force mobile sites upon the Web, but Google needs to stop it. Mobile sites are terrible, and most users would prefer a full site as long as zoom and reflow work properly, so that side scrolling is not needed. Listen to the people Google.
When you have many people returning phones because of the browser, that is a major problem.
When you have many people returning phones because of the browser, that is a major problem.
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #57
I'm still holding off on 4.4 until something is done. but my quick question is in 4.4 does Gmail still reflow with a double tap?
I did notice on my older tab that I did screw up and update. instead of pitch to zoom you can do the double tap but hold the 2nd tap and slide up and down to zoom in and out like the need Google maps went too. which I hate there too
I did notice on my older tab that I did screw up and update. instead of pitch to zoom you can do the double tap but hold the 2nd tap and slide up and down to zoom in and out like the need Google maps went too. which I hate there too
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #58
Pinch to zoom, followed by a quick double tap to reflow in Gmail still works thankfully. Why they would remove it from Web browsing blows my mind. I sent a hangout message to Eric Schmidt and Sundar Pichai, doubt it will do anything, but can't hurt.
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #59
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ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #60
TextReflow works good only on "Opera Beta"
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #61
Good news: Just installed the 4.4.2 Update - and text wrap is back again!
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #62
On my Nexus 5 (4.4.2 stock) it is still not working...
Tried on Chrome, Chrome Beta, Next Browser andò Opera.
Tried on Chrome, Chrome Beta, Next Browser andò Opera.
aw...@gmail.com <aw...@gmail.com> #63
I'm not seeing it either. Tint or Naked browsers. Chrome never had it.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #64
I tried it with my Nexus 7 on the wiki app Wikilin, where text wrapping did not work before with 4.4. So something must have been changed.
lu...@gmail.com <lu...@gmail.com> #65
At post #62 - which browser? Of AOSP Browser wraps text on 4.4.2 as it used to do till 4.3 that's the best news of a day. Please confirm.
At post #63 - Opera is wrapping text correctly on 4.4 and 4.4.1. I don't know about 4.4.2 as I don't have it yet. Though Opera drains battery like there's no tomorrow.
Other browser which wraps text good on KitKat is Dolphin but only with Dolphin Jetpack enabled. It's battery friendly but it does not rendered xda forum correctly - it covers while page or parts of it with grey semi transparent layer which sometimes disorders and sometimes not. I reported it to Dolphin developers, they are supposed to be working on fixing it, but last two updates of Dolphin jetpack did not do any good about it.
At post #63 - Opera is wrapping text correctly on 4.4 and 4.4.1. I don't know about 4.4.2 as I don't have it yet. Though Opera drains battery like there's no tomorrow.
Other browser which wraps text good on KitKat is Dolphin but only with Dolphin Jetpack enabled. It's battery friendly but it does not rendered xda forum correctly - it covers while page or parts of it with grey semi transparent layer which sometimes disorders and sometimes not. I reported it to Dolphin developers, they are supposed to be working on fixing it, but last two updates of Dolphin jetpack did not do any good about it.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #66
@#66: Of what Opera version (there are a lot in Play Store) are you speaking about?
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #67
Pretty much all Opera browsers except mini have wonderful text reflow.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #68
I guess the wikilin app also uses WebView, but I don't know. Just see its lost capability of wrapping is back again. It does not work in Chrome and Firefox, but in Dolphin.
lu...@gmail.com <lu...@gmail.com> #69
It's called: Opera browser for Android
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ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #70
UC Browser correctly does Text reflow on zoom. Chrome does not KK 4.4.2
Nexus 5 - Can I return my phone because of this? or maybe I can flash to a
4.3 ROM?
Nexus 5 - Can I return my phone because of this? or maybe I can flash to a
4.3 ROM?
gg...@gmail.com <gg...@gmail.com> #71
Neither Opera nor Dolphin works as far as I can see. Text gets bigger and goes off both sides of the screen. All double tapping does is make it smaller again to fit the screen -- then the print is too small to read once more. Pretty useless.
UC browser does work. However, that does not help with apps that I use often like android news or similar apps.
I am still on 4.4 as I have not received any update yet on either of my Nexus 5 phones.
Again, has anyone tired rooting the phone and putting on CM or any other 4.4 ROM to see if text wrapping still works the way it is supposed to work?
Thanks.
UC browser does work. However, that does not help with apps that I use often like android news or similar apps.
I am still on 4.4 as I have not received any update yet on either of my Nexus 5 phones.
Again, has anyone tired rooting the phone and putting on CM or any other 4.4 ROM to see if text wrapping still works the way it is supposed to work?
Thanks.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #72
Dolphin with Jetpack works with 4.4.2
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #73
Dolphin's Jetpack is an old webkit-based Android WebView that has been compiled by Dolphin.
UC Browser, as stated above in #48, uses the same kind of old WebView and/or they modify pages while sending traffic through their servers.
Similarly, some Opera versions have their own rendering engine and also proxy traffic, where it is modified.
None of this relates to this bug report other than to note that some developers are not using the WebView component included as part of Android. Here is the bug report requesting access to legacy WebView in Android:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=62293
Incidentally, if you are a user considering Dolphin see:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319529
For UC Browser, note the comically intrusive permission requirements.
UC Browser, as stated above in #48, uses the same kind of old WebView and/or they modify pages while sending traffic through their servers.
Similarly, some Opera versions have their own rendering engine and also proxy traffic, where it is modified.
None of this relates to this bug report other than to note that some developers are not using the WebView component included as part of Android. Here is the bug report requesting access to legacy WebView in Android:
Incidentally, if you are a user considering Dolphin see:
For UC Browser, note the comically intrusive permission requirements.
wy...@gmail.com <wy...@gmail.com> #74
>> #21 mattga...@chromium.org
>>This is WAI..
So What? I understand the WAI is the initiative to help people with disabilities to access the web content better. I am wondering how does the android webview team at google can define the "better API" for disability people? Or you guys think the people with disabilities have better eye sight?
>>This is WAI..
So What? I understand the WAI is the initiative to help people with disabilities to access the web content better. I am wondering how does the android webview team at google can define the "better API" for disability people? Or you guys think the people with disabilities have better eye sight?
tk...@gmail.com <tk...@gmail.com> #75
Hardly a "small"issue nor is it WAI unless you never browse the internet on your smart phone. Which if is the case why are you here?
Huge issue that needs to be fixed.
Huge issue that needs to be fixed.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #76
They have not explained what they mean by "This is WAI". They probably mean "Working As Intended" and not the "Web Accessibility Initiative", but who knows?
Regardless, I do not think that anyone experiencing issue cares about reasons or excuses for why text wrap is broken.
Regardless, I do not think that anyone experiencing issue cares about reasons or excuses for why text wrap is broken.
za...@gmail.com <za...@gmail.com> #77
I just dont understand why google removed this feature.
There are a lot of web pages that does not have proper mobile version. Old school table layouts, fixed width colums, small fonts, etc. I have good eyes, but I think text reflow is the most important usability feature for a mobile browser. Nobody want to scroll horizontally while reading an article, but now I have to choose: small unreadable text OR horizontal scrolling.
There are a lot of web pages that does not have proper mobile version. Old school table layouts, fixed width colums, small fonts, etc. I have good eyes, but I think text reflow is the most important usability feature for a mobile browser. Nobody want to scroll horizontally while reading an article, but now I have to choose: small unreadable text OR horizontal scrolling.
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #78
Temporary fix. I am on 4.4.1 Cataclysm rom. Running Dolphin with Jetpack also installed. Reflow works on many websites (with a few exceptions). No double tapping though. Pinch to desired size, and wait a few seconds. It reflows sometimes, if it doesn't, try a slightly different zoom level.
I say temporary because dolphin is a bloated battery hog (not as bad as chrome though), and also collects and sells browsing history.
I also agree Reflow is THE most important feature in a mobile browser. Stop trying to impose your "mobile version master plan" on the people, Google, and let us browse the way we want.
I say temporary because dolphin is a bloated battery hog (not as bad as chrome though), and also collects and sells browsing history.
I also agree Reflow is THE most important feature in a mobile browser. Stop trying to impose your "mobile version master plan" on the people, Google, and let us browse the way we want.
ch...@absmax.com <ch...@absmax.com> #79
Could someone be kind enough to point me in the right direction for what Google considers is 'proper mobile version'. Just sending me to a perfectly formed 'google-approved' mobile site would suffice as I'll read the source code and go from there. It's just that with so many apparently different opinions on how to make the perfect site it's difficult to know what the best one is meant to be.
In any case, from where I'm squinting, such a scheme would obviously include a feature to reflow text after the user has set it to any.size.they.like. Just like it used to.
Finally all this talk of WAI is off base. The new paradigm (and not just with Google) is surely BAI ('broken as intended').
In any case, from where I'm squinting, such a scheme would obviously include a feature to reflow text after the user has set it to any.size.they.like. Just like it used to.
Finally all this talk of WAI is off base. The new paradigm (and not just with Google) is surely BAI ('broken as intended').
wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #80
Google, why would you take away text reflow? It has to be one of the main reasons many of us preferred the AOSP browser. Try using it yourself and then ask "why did we do this?"
sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #81
New webview is a nightmare for the game developers. html5 canvas is not hardware accelerated and hence, rendering performance is extremely poor. Apparently, Google had killed html5 game development with this release. Please star these bugs in a hope that it will be fixed by google.
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=239864
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=315111
vi...@gmail.com <vi...@gmail.com> #82
This seems like a step backwards..
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #83
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ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #84
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tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #85
Stupid regression is stupid
is...@gmail.com <is...@gmail.com> #86
I'll let this photo explain.
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #87
this tap and slide zoom is horrible. even in maps. bring back zoom buttons. going down this one finger slide to zoom is painfully bad. and "^^^ is right, Google you should feel bad.
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #88
Interestingly, no one from the press is interested in what, is for many, a debilitating design decision by Google.
Even this page is unusable in 4.4.2 when rendered by Chrome.
With the zoom set above 50% it renderes oddly and the input boxes can become unselectsble.
Blackberry has an awesome browser, WTF?
Its sad when Blackberry, poster child for poor execution of goals, can do something better then you (Google) can.
My Blackberry Playbook is a web usability Dream compared to my Nexus 5.
Even this page is unusable in 4.4.2 when rendered by Chrome.
With the zoom set above 50% it renderes oddly and the input boxes can become unselectsble.
Blackberry has an awesome browser, WTF?
Its sad when Blackberry, poster child for poor execution of goals, can do something better then you (Google) can.
My Blackberry Playbook is a web usability Dream compared to my Nexus 5.
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #89
My new Dell Venue auto-updated a few days ago from 4.2.x to 4.3. This also broke text re-flow in Dolphin; my usability on this tablet just went out the window! WAI now sucks!!!
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #90
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br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #91
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iv...@gmail.com <iv...@gmail.com> #92
Accessibility text scaling doesn't work for me. on xda forums some fonts are large, while some are still small. On livejournal.com everything is still small ignoring the text scaling settings at all.
ya...@gmail.com <ya...@gmail.com> #93
I am having the same exact problem as above. Browsing has become useless.
de...@yahoo.com <de...@yahoo.com> #94
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tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #95
Any chance of an update on this? Thanks
pi...@gmail.com <pi...@gmail.com> #96
WTF, Google???
This is really AWFUL!!
Before I updated to 4.4., my Nexus 7 (2013) was a joy to use for browsing the web.
Now it's - in this regard - a POS; text wrap doesn't work anymore (an absolute STANDARD feature on mobile devices doesn't work anymore! Imagine that!!), and rendering / pinch to zoom / clicking links have become unbelievable LAGGY! Luckily I have a Xperia Tablet Z which works properly.
PLEASE fix this issue IMMEDIATELY! It's offensive against Android users!!!
Does Google want to test how far it can go without consequences? Is that one of a series of tests for the worldwide dictatorship of US IT corporations?
This is really AWFUL!!
Before I updated to 4.4., my Nexus 7 (2013) was a joy to use for browsing the web.
Now it's - in this regard - a POS; text wrap doesn't work anymore (an absolute STANDARD feature on mobile devices doesn't work anymore! Imagine that!!), and rendering / pinch to zoom / clicking links have become unbelievable LAGGY! Luckily I have a Xperia Tablet Z which works properly.
PLEASE fix this issue IMMEDIATELY! It's offensive against Android users!!!
Does Google want to test how far it can go without consequences? Is that one of a series of tests for the worldwide dictatorship of US IT corporations?
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #97
this isn't going to be fixed. Google doesn't want our business anymore.
my nexus 7 13' will be the last Google os I buy. Samsung will have its own os soon. and I will jump ship
my nexus 7 13' will be the last Google os I buy. Samsung will have its own os soon. and I will jump ship
aw...@gmail.com <aw...@gmail.com> #98
I know I'm using a lot less Android these days. I've found that I'm okay with that, though.
ar...@gmail.com <ar...@gmail.com> #99
As a result of the spammy comments, I'm unstarring this issue.
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #100
I am extremely frustrated by this issue. I have a Nexus 7 (2012) and eagerly bought a Nexus 5 and I tell everyone to go Google for their next phone. I can't believe I'm honestly wishing I had gone with iOS devices now.
I'm finding Google is terribly slow at fixing really basic user issues, or just ignores them completely.
I'm finding Google is terribly slow at fixing really basic user issues, or just ignores them completely.
2t...@gmail.com <2t...@gmail.com> #101
Text reflow is the only thing that makes a mobile browser usable! Had to switch to Opera, seems to be the only browser that text flow works on these days. Please fix!
cu...@gmail.com <cu...@gmail.com> #102
Google, i'm sure there's a really strong reason for all of this, but even so, what's the hurry of rushing a major update if it f@C%s up one of the basics??
PLEASE, fix this, please!!
PLEASE, fix this, please!!
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #103
Priority-Small Really? Priority-Blocking would be less out of place.
bo...@gmail.com <bo...@gmail.com> #104
Very annoying behavior of KitKat/Chrome makes me send my Nexus back. For people with bad eye sight it's not usable anymore. Esp. as envies in Email-apps do not text wrap anymore.
en...@gmail.com <en...@gmail.com> #105
This will probably never be fixed just like the awful POST download bug reported years ago: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1780
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #106
I have confirmed this on all browsers except for Opera. It also occurs in certain emails. I work at a large university in disability services. Due to this issue I cannot recommend Android to my visually impaired students.
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #107
In Dolphin browser you can change the text size to larger and it will flow properly at that size. Does that help? For some reason zooming breaks the text flow in KitKat.
li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #108
I agree, please fix it!
id...@gmail.com <id...@gmail.com> #109
Sticking with 4.3 on my Nexus 4, web browsing in 4.4 is terrible. Text reflow, inverted rendering and SCROLLING SMOOTHLY (come on Google, it's 2014) are all broken in Android 4.4. At least *try* to optimize Chromium for mobile. Get your act together, Google.
au...@gmail.com <au...@gmail.com> #110
Why does Google insists it is WAI? Breaking most of websites at once is INTENDED? A lot of people want old behaviour back, many sites became unreadable and it is WAI... Come on! This is a serious bug, which affects both WebView and Chrome! I hope to see it fixed soon.
li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #111
Well say
gu...@gmail.com <gu...@gmail.com> #112
GOOGLE , FIX IT!!!
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #113
Text reflow is needed BADLY. please Google someone implement this function. Also inverted color is needed too. Web browsing at night is far too bright, even with the screen brightness set to minimum. Why were these features not added back to chrome? The point is to have feature parity and move forward, not regress and move backwards. I just can't see a situation where this decision was thought as a good one. Its so obviously needed for mobile browsing.
sg...@android.com <sg...@android.com>
va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #114
so you break a feature and mark it "working as intended" clap clap clap, absolutely useless.
cu...@gmail.com <cu...@gmail.com> #115
"Status: WorkingAsIntended" What's that suppose to mean??
If it's working as intended then please "un"intend your intention, because it poorly, very poorly intended!
It's intended to you, not to the end user! But I guess you'r the ones who know... came on!!
If it's working as intended then please "un"intend your intention, because it poorly, very poorly intended!
It's intended to you, not to the end user! But I guess you'r the ones who know... came on!!
ch...@absmax.com <ch...@absmax.com> #116
Status: Broken As Intended.
Presumably Google sells more advertising that way. When reason fails, follow the money...
Presumably Google sells more advertising that way. When reason fails, follow the money...
2t...@gmail.com <2t...@gmail.com> #117
LOL. "As intended"... means it moves users off Chrome to Opera or other browsers that support it. I'm happy enough with Opera not to be concerned anymore. But if Opera can do it well, and K9 mail can do it well, what's up with Google? All I can think is it's a patent infringement and they are steering clear.... but it would be nice to know if they plan on a fix, so other browsers could support it too.
sg...@android.com <sg...@android.com> #118
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #119
Are you kidding me?
If this is working as intended please reconsider your meaning of "working".
Really, shame on you Google.
If this is working as intended please reconsider your meaning of "working".
Really, shame on you Google.
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #120
horrible... what do I do with my 7 now. I can just never update it?
ridiculous
ridiculous
cu...@gmail.com <cu...@gmail.com> #121
How can you not plan "to do any change in this regard"???? This is a major
issue! Is there a reason for this? Is it a patent problem?
There may be few people complaining in forums or directly to you about this,
but I can guarantee you that a lot of us felling we're going backwards. You
had the upper hand in internet navigation with this, now in KK you're just
as good as anyone else when it could be so much better. Please fix it,
change your mind. This doesn't make sense at all.
Regards;
Ant�nio P. Cunha
-----Mensagem original-----
De: android@googlecode.com [mailto:android@googlecode.com]
Enviada: segunda-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2014 16:35
Para: cunhaad@gmail.com
Assunto: Re: Issue 36949180 in android: KitKat WebView text wrap no longer
works
issue! Is there a reason for this? Is it a patent problem?
There may be few people complaining in forums or directly to you about this,
but I can guarantee you that a lot of us felling we're going backwards. You
had the upper hand in internet navigation with this, now in KK you're just
as good as anyone else when it could be so much better. Please fix it,
change your mind. This doesn't make sense at all.
Regards;
Ant�nio P. Cunha
-----Mensagem original-----
De: android@googlecode.com [mailto:android@googlecode.com]
Enviada: segunda-feira, 13 de janeiro de 2014 16:35
Para: cunhaad@gmail.com
Assunto: Re:
works
za...@gmail.com <za...@gmail.com> #122
Project Member #120 sgu...@android.com:
"We are not planning to do any change in this regard. See the comments above and this link:
http://developer.android.com/guide/webapps/migrating.html#Columns "
"TEXT_AUTOSIZING boosts font size of paragraphs based on heuristics to make the text readable when viewing a wide-viewport.."
And what if the user find the text too small even with this "smart" algorithm? Why don't you let the users decide? Make text reflow optional, and problem solved. This TEXT_AUTOSIZING concept is simply bad. I hate it. There are a lot of web pages which are now unusable/unreadable for me. The whole browsing experience is a pain compared to the previous versions. After pinch-zooming to a comfortable text size I have to scroll _horizontally_ to read. Do you really think it is good? I think it's a bad joke...
"We are not planning to do any change in this regard. See the comments above and this link:
"TEXT_AUTOSIZING boosts font size of paragraphs based on heuristics to make the text readable when viewing a wide-viewport.."
And what if the user find the text too small even with this "smart" algorithm? Why don't you let the users decide? Make text reflow optional, and problem solved. This TEXT_AUTOSIZING concept is simply bad. I hate it. There are a lot of web pages which are now unusable/unreadable for me. The whole browsing experience is a pain compared to the previous versions. After pinch-zooming to a comfortable text size I have to scroll _horizontally_ to read. Do you really think it is good? I think it's a bad joke...
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #123
This is potentially the stupidest most arrogant thing google has ever done
aa...@gmail.com <aa...@gmail.com> #124
This decision by Google is the equivalent of giving every browser but Google Chrome a lobotomy, or as taking them from mature adulthood back to thumb sucking infancy. This wouldn't be quite as bad if Chrome was not terrible and the new webview extremely poor. Trying to own something by anticompetitive behavior rather than by competing on merit always results in an inferior product. This is Google's "Windows Vista" moment.
You see Google needed the hooks in software to incorporate the new features of Google Now in KitKat and therefore needed a new webview to accomplish that. But, when they finished Kitkat, their new webview was not quite ready, was a kind of half baked creation. Therefore, they knew that if they left legacy webview in place, absolutely no one would use the new Chrome based on their new webview engine, because it is so inferior to the many browsers that used the old webview, particularly for the vision impaired/elderly population.
From what I understand the following is what is broken in KitKat webview:
• text wrap no longer works
• cannot upload files
• cannot save passwords
• cannot force enable zoom
• no inverted rendering
• cannot play Flash videos (broken in 4.3 too)
So one can see that if all of the above did not work in Chrome, then Google in order to have Chrome survive, had to break all of the above in every other browser too.
You see Google needed the hooks in software to incorporate the new features of Google Now in KitKat and therefore needed a new webview to accomplish that. But, when they finished Kitkat, their new webview was not quite ready, was a kind of half baked creation. Therefore, they knew that if they left legacy webview in place, absolutely no one would use the new Chrome based on their new webview engine, because it is so inferior to the many browsers that used the old webview, particularly for the vision impaired/elderly population.
From what I understand the following is what is broken in KitKat webview:
• text wrap no longer works
• cannot upload files
• cannot save passwords
• cannot force enable zoom
• no inverted rendering
• cannot play Flash videos (broken in 4.3 too)
So one can see that if all of the above did not work in Chrome, then Google in order to have Chrome survive, had to break all of the above in every other browser too.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #125
"working as intended"? are you joking?
now please try to review your wrong intentions and fix this, asap.
thank you.
now please try to review your wrong intentions and fix this, asap.
thank you.
sc...@gmail.com <sc...@gmail.com> #127
Come on Google - be a man and admit you got it wrong and fix it.
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #128
"WorkingAsIntended" is the status of this bug. What is the intent?
ki...@gmail.com <ki...@gmail.com> #129
When I found out about this a while ago I shook my head. What could possibly compel you, beyond a massive lawsuit or losing a drunken bet, to remove one of the most useful features in any mobile browser? Text reflow is an absolute must have feature on a lot of sites that either have no mobile site or a very poor one that forces you to use the desktop version.
Is it intended to cause people to resort to scrolling back and forth to view a page? Is it intended to make people use an actual magnifying glass to read a page on their phones? I've used Windows Phone 7, 7.5 and 8 as well as iOS and none of them have text reflow in the browser. It's an awful experience. Have any of your engineers and people responsible for this tried using it for any length of time? I'm betting you haven't or this would not have happened.
Is it intended to cause people to resort to scrolling back and forth to view a page? Is it intended to make people use an actual magnifying glass to read a page on their phones? I've used Windows Phone 7, 7.5 and 8 as well as iOS and none of them have text reflow in the browser. It's an awful experience. Have any of your engineers and people responsible for this tried using it for any length of time? I'm betting you haven't or this would not have happened.
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #130
Just to say:fuck you google!
Next device will not be android powered anymore.
Next device will not be android powered anymore.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #132
One commenter in The Register article linked above states the reason that Google "intended" to break text wrap is because it makes advertisements more visible.
Google devs, if you don't stand up for what is right, if you don't live by the Hacker Ethic, then what's the point of it all?
Google devs, if you don't stand up for what is right, if you don't live by the Hacker Ethic, then what's the point of it all?
ch...@absmax.com <ch...@absmax.com> #133
It seems that Dolphin has updated its browser or otherwise worked some magic so text reflow now works again on 4.4.
si...@gmail.com <si...@gmail.com> #134
This is a terrible decision, I can't use my nexus 5 default browser or the gmail app to read email, I have poor eyesight and you have just killed the best feature of android off. Back to getting my mum to read to me!
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #135
#135 Dolphin now includes legacy WebView with KitKat version of browser as stated in their release notes. Too bad that app lives to phone home your data.
Since this bug is "intended", solutions:
-figure out how to include 5MB+ legacy WebView with your app. Don't forget the never-ending security ramifications!
-use a "ROM" like CM that has a working WebView and developers WITH A SOUL
Since this bug is "intended", solutions:
-figure out how to include 5MB+ legacy WebView with your app. Don't forget the never-ending security ramifications!
-use a "ROM" like CM that has a working WebView and developers WITH A SOUL
lu...@gmail.com <lu...@gmail.com> #136
Status: WorkingAsIntended
Priority-Small
Closed: Jan 13
The above only shows it's been done on purpose.
When company starts to think that they can do anyting and nend customers to their will, not takeing into account what the customers realy want, this is when the fall begins.
Since November 1st 2013 Chrome is uninstalled from my Nexus 5 and it will not come back any soon or ever if Google does not show comon sense.
Priority-Small
Closed: Jan 13
The above only shows it's been done on purpose.
When company starts to think that they can do anyting and nend customers to their will, not takeing into account what the customers realy want, this is when the fall begins.
Since November 1st 2013 Chrome is uninstalled from my Nexus 5 and it will not come back any soon or ever if Google does not show comon sense.
ka...@googlemail.com <ka...@googlemail.com> #137
This is just ridiculous. I am one of the first ones who bought an Android device, the good old HTC Hero when it first was launched.
Ever since I appreciated the superior browsing experience.
Now I don't and can't see and reason for why to stick with Android.
If the textsizing would work consistent I would be eine with it. But it just doesn't.
Ever since I appreciated the superior browsing experience.
Now I don't and can't see and reason for why to stick with Android.
If the textsizing would work consistent I would be eine with it. But it just doesn't.
dw...@gmail.com <dw...@gmail.com> #138
What a retrograde step!
Why institute such an idiotic step when utilising the internet is one of the more important functions of a large screen phone?
Plain stupid, no other way to describe it.
Why institute such an idiotic step when utilising the internet is one of the more important functions of a large screen phone?
Plain stupid, no other way to describe it.
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #139
I'd really appreciate having the text in my browser be readable please.
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #140
Yes, some of us can read, given the chance.
mg...@gmail.com <mg...@gmail.com> #143
Wow! are we watching the slow motion metaphorical jumping of the shark here? It's like we now have the benevolent dictators from the softies and the fruits poisoning the dev teams. You know, the kind of asshats that respond to consumer concern complaints with if you want an xbone that works offline get an xbox 360 or mice should only have one button and try to convince themselves that they know whats best for EVERYONE. That's right bugs are now "features" in android.
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #145
Why ruin something that worked?
cu...@gmail.com <cu...@gmail.com> #146
Still no solution, no answer?? REVERT!
NOW!!
NOW!!
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #147
why isn't this on all the tech blogs? please forward this to any and all tech blogs.
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #148
Reading websites in kk is abominable. This very site and threads like this one are always a pain to read. When I zoom in far enough to have readable text, the text from the upper left hand side zooms and floats over the commentary text. This happens on googles code site? Floating toolbars from so many websites get so large that there is barely a small space to be able to read the content that I am visiting the site for... Unacceptable.
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #149
wo...@gmail.com <wo...@gmail.com> #150
Updated my HTC One to kitkat over the weekend and now reading e-mails in the Yahoo Mail app is a pain. But at least text wraps when viewing the mail site in Chrome. Was that the point? This needs to be fixed ASAP!
mj...@gmail.com <mj...@gmail.com> #151
Back to Opera Classic, which uses Opera's own rendering engine (the newer Opera uses same layout engine as Chrome).
Text reflow works great when zooming in that browser!
(The 'single column mode' which you can enable from the settings, is only useful for zooming and reflowing text files (.txt); otherwise changes website layouts too much to be useful.)
Text reflow works great when zooming in that browser!
(The 'single column mode' which you can enable from the settings, is only useful for zooming and reflowing text files (.txt); otherwise changes website layouts too much to be useful.)
ki...@gmail.com <ki...@gmail.com> #152
Wow. Google is the new Apple. Time to start looking for a new OS. And more services to replace Google. Nice knowing you Google. It was good while it lasted.
21...@gmail.com <21...@gmail.com> #153
"Upgrade" to Chromium-based WebView is a major step back. No text reflow, scrollTo() rarely works, zoomOut() is broken, setInitialScale() is broken, standard find dialog inexplicably causes text size to change, showFindDialog() is deprecated (we are now all supposed to roll our own because you see, it's so hard that Google can't do it). I wonder if people who brought us this "upgrade" are deliberately sabotaging ecosystem around webview and all the apps that rely on it or are simply incompetent?
ab...@gmail.com <ab...@gmail.com> #154
Working as intended?? Do you so called 'engineers' actually browse the web on kitkat? Did you use the browser BEFORE kitkat? In which universe is the kitkat browser 'working'?? You need to make an option for the old webkit browser in kitkat at least, in 'typical' android fashion, freedom no? Or perhaps that's not so much on the agenda anymore?
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #155
You can't reason with these people. Many have tried. Wankers, basically.
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #156
Please fix text wrap. No longer functions after upgrading to kit Kat today.
do...@gmail.com <do...@gmail.com> #157
Come on Google your OS has been great up until now. You've also been great at listening to consumers for the most part. We all feel you should reconsider this idea and bring back text wrap. Without it, browsing the web or even using your very own email apps is a major headache
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #158
This issue shows that even unbelievable things can happen, and last for a very long time. Is Google really telling its users that text wrap/reflow, in any web browser, will never be supported again at the Android OS level??
ih...@gmail.com <ih...@gmail.com> #159
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ih...@gmail.com <ih...@gmail.com> #160
I thought this feature only is worth to use an Android phone over an iphone. Now it is gone! Hard to believe. There can be no argument to justify such a stupid move. I still hope 4.4.3 will fix it, otherwise I will definitely get rid of my Nexus 5...
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #161
If i had known of this major BUG i wouldnt have bought a Nexus 7.
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #162
A major step back for Android.
I've reverted my device back to pre google breaking text reflow so I can still use the web browser. And I won't be upgrading till this is fixed, and if not fixed I'll be moving to a different OS.
I've reverted my device back to pre google breaking text reflow so I can still use the web browser. And I won't be upgrading till this is fixed, and if not fixed I'll be moving to a different OS.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #163
When will this be fixed google??? Fix this please!! Put again text wrap!!
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #164
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su...@gmail.com <su...@gmail.com> #165
I like Opera and Chrome but I'm using Opera because of the text wrap issue.
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #166
Text wrap was a very useful feature. It should be fixed ASAP.
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #167
Please bring text wrap back.
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #168
My http://jidanni.org/ uses no CSS and is supposed to wrap but doesn't on chrome/IPad.
kl...@gmail.com <kl...@gmail.com> #169
Please bring text wrap back.
ke...@gmail.com <ke...@gmail.com> #170
Please fix. Remaining on 4.3. For those with poor eyesight, this was a terrible choice
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #171
Please fix this. It's a travesty. Even worse than the bug itself is the attitude of indifference shown to your users when they say a behavior is broken.
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #172
^this
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #173
Google: Please undo the removal of text reflow. As of now, KitKat is a cursed upgrade, or should I say a DOWNGRADE!!!
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #174
Google! Aren't these complaints enough to address this issue?? how many complaints is it gonna take? I KNOW this isn't the only place people have complained about the lack of text wrapping with kitkat!
j....@gmail.com <j....@gmail.com> #175
Google what the fuck happened to being an open platform? Why do you slowly take things away?
cr...@gmail.com <cr...@gmail.com> #176
Just to make you folks at Google aware of the obvious, the unprofessional and shallow attempt to force people to chrome is shallow and beneath you. What is the point of making a big fuss of trying to convince sites to have compatibility with mobile devices if you insist on hamstringing almost all browsers but your own or those with the chrome engine? Might as well get an ithing at this rate. Open source my foot...
cu...@gmail.com <cu...@gmail.com> #177
tell me, how many complains will it take?? you're shooting yourself on the foot!
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #178
The loss of word wrap is a complete and utter disaster,especially for the visually impaired, kitkat.... Its a downgrade not a upgrade, just hoping someone at xda manages to create a custom ROM with this feature returned or Google put it back, whoever is making the decisions at Google regarding android features, releases and code changes should be taken out into a dark secluded field at night and shot!
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #179
HTC One m8 with htc sense 6.0 based on KitKat has text resize working perfectly in their own browser... how is it possible?
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #180
This simple issue is being complained everywhere by almost every android user. Except very little people who made this obvious mistake are still trying to argue this is a improvement. Don't let responsive design buzzword mislead your decision. Customer's voice are the most important for your decision. Sometime admit a mistake can save a product. Don't let this simple mistake kill the wonderful android platform.
ps...@gmail.com <ps...@gmail.com> #181
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ps...@gmail.com <ps...@gmail.com> #184
Guys, if Google doesnt wants people to used stock browser - use Dolphin Browser.
Whats the problem? The problem is that KitKat 4.4.2 has many other bugs. Its really worse than JB. Thats really sad..
Whats the problem? The problem is that KitKat 4.4.2 has many other bugs. Its really worse than JB. Thats really sad..
ya...@gmail.com <ya...@gmail.com> #185
UC browser permissions are fine. It doesn't even use half of the permissions it requests. It's rough around the edges but it's clearly the best browser on 4.4.2 if you want reflow. Opera is a close second.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #186
Samsung Galaxy Tab 3. This was given to me for my work with Federal Codes of Regulation, period. I strongly agree @13. Fire Executives who signed-off. Mandatory unpaid Overtime until this 21st Century travesty is remedied.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #187
People talking about using Dolphin or UC are crazy. "Does not use permissions"?? Whatever.
Now that Vic Gundotra is out at Google can the Android devs please get back on track with the whole "don't be evil" thing? And if Google would stop colluding with the other big tech companies to keep wages lower, that'd be nice too. Shame on you guys.
Now that Vic Gundotra is out at Google can the Android devs please get back on track with the whole "don't be evil" thing? And if Google would stop colluding with the other big tech companies to keep wages lower, that'd be nice too. Shame on you guys.
ha...@gmail.com <ha...@gmail.com> #188
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ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #189
Status: WorkingAsIntended
Seriously? It's intended to be broken?
Astounding. Utterly, completely, astounding. I'll not buy a new smartphone until this problem is fixed.
Seriously? It's intended to be broken?
Astounding. Utterly, completely, astounding. I'll not buy a new smartphone until this problem is fixed.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #190
"Working as intended"? How does that make you any better than Apple?
ya...@gmail.com <ya...@gmail.com> #191
staying on jelly bean until this thing is fixed. And if it's not fixed by the time I need a new phone, it will not be a google phone. Take that to the bank google.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #192
Yet another absurd decision from google. They killed android chrome with their stupid changes and now they kill every other browser so they will all suck.
cl...@gmail.com <cl...@gmail.com> #193
I'm 59 with very bad eyesight. I just bought a Moto G and was dismayed at finding the AOSP browser missing. Honestly, I need text reflow to be able to read most web pages. I do hope this silly issue is resolved soon.
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #194
Pay an Apple Developer Key and get in serious business
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #195
Hello Google, the people have spoken. Give us back text reflow on KitKat.
Thank you.
Mr. Nexus user since the Nexus One.
Thank you.
Mr. Nexus user since the Nexus One.
bo...@gmail.com <bo...@gmail.com> #196
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ht...@googlemail.com <ht...@googlemail.com> #197
Opera rocks. The only reason I liked text wrap was because Dolphin used it. I can't seem to get Dolphin to wrap on CM11. Chrome never did it when I zoomed and double-tapped. Opera on CM11 works perfectly fine. Thanks to the Opera team. Shame on Google!
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #198
The text reflow problem affects my browsing and my email reader. The email reader used to reflow text on most emails. Not I have to scroll left to right to browse and to read emails.
I used to love my Verizon Note 3. Now I hardly use it. I just powered it off this morning and I'm going back to my company issued Sprint S3. I'll only use my Note 3 now when I need Google maps (a couple of times a month).
I'm stopping by Verizon and reducing my data plan to the minimum. I'd cancel my service but I still need Verizon data for Google maps. I have to have Google maps a couple of times a month and Sprint data just isn't reliable where I need the maps.
I didn't read all the posts above so maybe Google explained, but how can they justify intentionally making a good product a bad product? I used to always look forward to getting the latest new phone. Now there is really no point in getting a new phone if I can't use it for the web.
I used to love my Verizon Note 3. Now I hardly use it. I just powered it off this morning and I'm going back to my company issued Sprint S3. I'll only use my Note 3 now when I need Google maps (a couple of times a month).
I'm stopping by Verizon and reducing my data plan to the minimum. I'd cancel my service but I still need Verizon data for Google maps. I have to have Google maps a couple of times a month and Sprint data just isn't reliable where I need the maps.
I didn't read all the posts above so maybe Google explained, but how can they justify intentionally making a good product a bad product? I used to always look forward to getting the latest new phone. Now there is really no point in getting a new phone if I can't use it for the web.
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #199
They have offered no justification. It's just "working as intended" or "broken as intended" :anger:
do...@gmail.com <do...@gmail.com> #200
Dolphin has a plugin called Compact Page that makes text readable. Apparently it sends a web page through a Google filter service called GWT. No such add on for Firefox. Given their history, Google will likely end GWT service if customers like it. "Do more evil"
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #201
Who would have thought that a small change to the OS would cause me to abandon it? At least 50% of the time I spend on my android phone is using an internet browser (Naked Browser Pro, plug plug). Removing this feature really turns the internet browsing experience into a convoluted mess of trying different zoom levels, orientations, and horizontal scrolling. Therefore, half the time I'm using the android OS, I'm persistently annoyed and irritated. I'm reverting to 4.3 Jelly Bean. I regret updating my ROM to KitKat.
All I can say is, if this is a feature that is "not likely to come back" like many articles have stated, then I am not likely to come back either.
I implore Google to please find a solution to re-enable reflow text on zoom.
All I can say is, if this is a feature that is "not likely to come back" like many articles have stated, then I am not likely to come back either.
I implore Google to please find a solution to re-enable reflow text on zoom.
la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #202
Just one more user disgusted by this change. Browsing used to work just fine; now it is broken. Sad days.
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #203
This is just insane. There are many people with eye problems that need to have the ability to text wrap to make it easier to read some web pages on their phone and removing this feature is not only annoying but is irresponsible. Google, fix this immediately!
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #204
This is the only thing that I hate my Nexus 5. Even with my old Xperia Mini with a very small display it more comfortable to browsing web pages than with Nexus.
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #205
Kitkat is effectively GARBAGE because of this issue. If there was a way to downgrade back to jellybean on my Galaxy Note 3 I would do it, but now I'm trapped in this mess. At least there's Opera for android which uses its own web rendering engine so will wrap / reflow, but I have not found an email client that will do it yet.
Google you killed the BEST most significant differentiating feature that made android so great vs Ios.
Great work...
Google you killed the BEST most significant differentiating feature that made android so great vs Ios.
Great work...
ih...@gmail.com <ih...@gmail.com> #206
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ih...@gmail.com <ih...@gmail.com> #207
Is it not fixed in 4.4.3? Unbelievable! Just fuck you Google. I have invested on you for years and you left me in the freezing cold...
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #208
How is this not covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_with_Disabilities_Act_of_1990#Title_IV.E2.80.94Telecommunications
Perhaps the way to fight this is legally. As an older person with older eyes I simply cannot see well enough to use KK browsing anymore. I do use Opera Beta and Opera Classic when possible but in their current state there is simply web sites I cannot read.
Perhaps the way to fight this is legally. As an older person with older eyes I simply cannot see well enough to use KK browsing anymore. I do use Opera Beta and Opera Classic when possible but in their current state there is simply web sites I cannot read.
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #209
@207 I'm using Android 4.3 on my Galaxy S3 and gmail app doesn't wrap text anymore, so no reason to downgrade.
nd...@gmail.com <nd...@gmail.com> #210
This is an insane decision.
I only just discovered it while auditioning smartphones for a long overdue upgrade from an ancient Android phone. Horizontal scrolling is a deal breaker to the entire Android ecosystem. There isn't a screen sharp enough or a processor fast enough or a battery efficient enough to make it worth dealing with horizontal scroll.
The oldest and dumbest of the smartphones are still good enough as phones. If the newer ones can't zoom and flow web pages, email, text generally, then they can gather dust as far as I'm concerned.
I long to see Google laid low.
I only just discovered it while auditioning smartphones for a long overdue upgrade from an ancient Android phone. Horizontal scrolling is a deal breaker to the entire Android ecosystem. There isn't a screen sharp enough or a processor fast enough or a battery efficient enough to make it worth dealing with horizontal scroll.
The oldest and dumbest of the smartphones are still good enough as phones. If the newer ones can't zoom and flow web pages, email, text generally, then they can gather dust as far as I'm concerned.
I long to see Google laid low.
mr...@gmail.com <mr...@gmail.com> #211
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st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #212
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st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #213
What Google allows itself here is more than impertinent. It's vulgar and indecent. On the one hand they boast themselves to help disabled people to deal with Android, on the other hand they castrate Android for that very special and important function for exact these people. It's a slap in the face and mockery to every visually impaired. It's an arrogant way of abuse of power and monopoly and at least, dicrimination.
Forcing your will to the people. Sitting on your throne saying: "works as intended", not caring what is intended by the people. Check out Sense of ownership, sense of responsibility. Boooh....
Forcing your will to the people. Sitting on your throne saying: "works as intended", not caring what is intended by the people. Check out Sense of ownership, sense of responsibility. Boooh....
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #214
Thanks for 4.4.4 Google. It's nice to see some webview changes :)
Unfortunately you decided to ignore countless users and couldn't be bothered to fix this issue while you were at it.
C.ck Sm.kers
Unfortunately you decided to ignore countless users and couldn't be bothered to fix this issue while you were at it.
C.ck Sm.kers
wa...@gmail.com <wa...@gmail.com> #215
Can anybody confirm if this bug is still in Android L?
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #216
It's not a bug, wallnutboy. It's a bad design decision by Google.
su...@gmail.com <su...@gmail.com> #217
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ya...@gmail.com <ya...@gmail.com> #218
Yes. this bug still in Android L
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #219
So annoying. Google really is the new apple. Assholes that force their stupid ideas in everyone.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #220
It's strange how such a small sounding feature makes an enourmous difference in browsing experience. I'm now using Opera mobile, and just its text reflow (which, admittedly, you have to first turn on in the settings) makes it far superiour to chrome on android. It's very weird Google can't see this.
cu...@gmail.com <cu...@gmail.com> #221
Google, this thread will not die unless you get us text reflow back... you might kill it, but it will spawn somewhere else.
Please, listen to your users!
Thanks!
Please, listen to your users!
Thanks!
bb...@gmail.com <bb...@gmail.com> #222
This is very annoying. How can you regress? Bring back the reflow
te...@gmail.com <te...@gmail.com> #223
Does anyone know why Google won't turn it back on? Clearly there must be some reason. It'd better be a good one, because how the hell you're supposed to pan a 4.7 inch screen display back and forth to read text because you have to grow the text size enough to be readable. Not cool, especially if you're not 16 and your eyesight might not be so hot any more.
So what's the reason Google ?
So what's the reason Google ?
pk...@gmail.com <pk...@gmail.com> #224
I noticed this issue when testing my app's WebView on KitKat and noticed SINGLE_COLUMN & NARROW_COLUMN no longer work. It seems this still happens on Android L.
With a bug this huge, some dev must have created their own WebView forks to fix this by now... no? Anyone know how to fix this on the app-side? I wasn't able to find a solution for this so far.
With a bug this huge, some dev must have created their own WebView forks to fix this by now... no? Anyone know how to fix this on the app-side? I wasn't able to find a solution for this so far.
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #225
Are you fucking people blind?
This isn't a bug, Google did this by DESIGN. Not that it makes it any better, but you'all need to open your eyes and read the thread.
This isn't a bug, Google did this by DESIGN. Not that it makes it any better, but you'all need to open your eyes and read the thread.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #226
I think that the only way that we can get this fixed is if those of us with seeing difficulties file disability violation complaints with the ftc.
fg...@gmail.com <fg...@gmail.com> #227
The text reflow implementation in Android was by far its best feature for me when I switched from my iPhone. Those of us who aren't lucky enough to have perfect vision really struggle to read anything effectively with Chrome on 4.4. It's sad to see Google not caring about its users or accessibility on their devices. Inverted rendering is equally as important for me as I would have it on 90% of the time since reading white on black is much easier on the eyes.
The HTC M8 stock browser (in Sense 6) seems to support all these goodies even though it's running 4.4. Opera also offers great text reflow but no inverted browsing.
Just like the other folks here, I really hope that Google re-consider this decision and consider those with visual impairments.
The HTC M8 stock browser (in Sense 6) seems to support all these goodies even though it's running 4.4. Opera also offers great text reflow but no inverted browsing.
Just like the other folks here, I really hope that Google re-consider this decision and consider those with visual impairments.
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #228
WOW!!! I got the fix!!! Delete the Gmail app and use the mail app that comes with the phone, and uninstall Chrome and switch to the Dolphin browser. Whew, that was a close one...
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #229
Has anyone brought this issue to the consumer advocates/network media? Sometimes bad publicity is the best way to pressure big corporations to correct their mistake.
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #230
I need the text reflow on my Galaxy S4, why do they remove this main feature in KK 4.4, I don't get it...
I want to use the stock browser because of the Quick Control (Pie control) that are so usefull, why do the others browsers miss this feature ?
I want to use the stock browser because of the Quick Control (Pie control) that are so usefull, why do the others browsers miss this feature ?
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #231
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cc...@gmail.com <cc...@gmail.com> #232
If "Text Reflow" is a lost cause on Kit Kat, OK fine whatever.
^ Then "at least" please give us this feature back with Android L.
For me this is a dealbreaker, and I've gone back to Jelly Bean because of this.
TBH I'd rather use IOS and have this, then Kit Kat and not have it.
Also IMO 3rd party browers like Opera and Dolphin just don't cut it like AOSP Browser for Android used to.
Please Google, put the Text Reflow feature back in Android L...
^ Then "at least" please give us this feature back with Android L.
For me this is a dealbreaker, and I've gone back to Jelly Bean because of this.
TBH I'd rather use IOS and have this, then Kit Kat and not have it.
Also IMO 3rd party browers like Opera and Dolphin just don't cut it like AOSP Browser for Android used to.
Please Google, put the Text Reflow feature back in Android L...
qu...@gmail.com <qu...@gmail.com> #233
It's not just browsers, even Evernote has been affected. You are inconveniencing your users, Google. It makes any new tablet useless for anyone who wants to pinch-zoom notes in Evernote while giving a presentation!
fb...@gmail.com <fb...@gmail.com> #234
This is a HUGE problem. There's a programmer somewhere who can un-fix it.
fb...@gmail.com <fb...@gmail.com> #235
I tried Opera, doesn't work. I tried Dolphin, doesn't work. Is there any browser that will reflow the text?
ez...@gmail.com <ez...@gmail.com> #236
이것은 매우 심각한 문제입니다.
구글이 지금의 정책을 바꾸지 않는다면 나는 구글의 제품을 구매하지 않을 것입니다.
samsung galaxy note 2는 kitkat임에도 예외적으로 auto fit이 가능합니다.
구글이 지금의 정책을 바꾸지 않는다면 나는 구글의 제품을 구매하지 않을 것입니다.
samsung galaxy note 2는 kitkat임에도 예외적으로 auto fit이 가능합니다.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #237
I don't understand why remove text reflow from android when Chrome for the desktop does it when you zoom a webpage.
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #238
This is horrible. This is crazy. This is a robbery. We took for granted the text reflow and forced zoom in our apps and now it's gone without even warning or an explanation. Is Google gone nuts?? I am returning the Galaxy S5 I bought only for this reason and will stay on my S3 with text reflow and forced zoom. I also sold the Galaxy Tab 3 which had upgraded to 4.4 and purchased a new one with Jelly Bean.
It's really crazy, as if cars tomorrow had no brakes for no reason and nobody was warned.
It's really crazy, as if cars tomorrow had no brakes for no reason and nobody was warned.
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #239
I switched to android (Note 2) because ios doesn't support zoom and wrap. I have avoided Kitkat for the very same reason. Now that Apple has a phablet (iphone 6 plus) the lack of text wrap or reflow in android makes switching back to ios (unified ecosystem, Apple pay, iEverything) an easy decision. The ability to read email and web content is the primary reason the business/eterprise community uses smartphones.
Bottom line: google's "WorkingAsIntended" tips the scale back to Apple and ios
Bottom line: google's "WorkingAsIntended" tips the scale back to Apple and ios
va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #240
A very bizarre choice for Google to deactivate text wrap, I think text wrap is really important , it is definitely worth downgrading to a previous android firmware just for that .
It's a an essential feature of android browsers against other operating systems.
It's a an essential feature of android browsers against other operating systems.
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #241
Back to IOS
Cya
/waves
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #242
For once in my life I am glad that Verizon has slow updates! Note 2 on 4.4.2. The default browser still reflows text (word wrap) so I can read up to down instead of left-scroll-to right and back and forth and back and forth, etc... Google blew it here BIG TIME. Text reflow is the SINGLE biggest feature of a smartphone. HTC Thunderbolt had text reflow. If I am forced to downgrade "up" to 4.4.4, I'm headed to the fruit.
ku...@gmail.com <ku...@gmail.com> #243
I have to say it is bs I'm also headed apples way.
ge...@gmail.com <ge...@gmail.com> #244
Please revert this change. I'd like to be able to consider browsers other than Opera and Dolphin for everyday use.
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #245
Plz fix it :-(
ya...@gmail.com <ya...@gmail.com> #246
Lollipop has come and still no fix. My old eyes can not read those tiny letters.
This is definitely an accessibility issue discriminating against older people.
I guess it's time to say goodbye to Android
This is definitely an accessibility issue discriminating against older people.
I guess it's time to say goodbye to Android
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #247
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st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #248
So many complaints from many users, but fucking google assholes do not even care to reply with proper explanations. This is how they treat their users. Browsing net has become nearly impossible, but google just doesn't react.
This issue, as well as my maps elimination, and stupid decisions like switching ok/cancel button in ICS just to name few show what a bunch of dumb jerks google is now. Android turns to inconvenient useless crap. Once I find alternative, I'm gonna say goodbuy to you, brainless motherfuckers. Just a matter of time.
Burn in hell, evil empire.
This issue, as well as my maps elimination, and stupid decisions like switching ok/cancel button in ICS just to name few show what a bunch of dumb jerks google is now. Android turns to inconvenient useless crap. Once I find alternative, I'm gonna say goodbuy to you, brainless motherfuckers. Just a matter of time.
Burn in hell, evil empire.
le...@gmail.com <le...@gmail.com> #249
I don't understand why all of a sudden word wrap which is almost totally necessary to get any sort of reasonable readability on my droid maxx has been removed. As soon as I can find a reasonable alternative i will also probably be an x android user.
ye...@gmail.com <ye...@gmail.com> #250
This "working as intended" feature not a bug has made a non-trivial number of websites unreadable for me. It has forced me to stop using Chrome or any browser based on Android WebView. The best alternatives I've found with working text reflow after pinch zoom are the Opera Browser for Android and Dolphin HD with the Dolphin Jetpack add-on.
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #251
Google, you broke something that worked correctly in previous editions. Please give us back text reflow in webviews.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #252
This is a big issue. Please fix it.
7g...@gmail.com <7g...@gmail.com> #253
I'm glad that I didn't bought a new phone this past year, I'm staying with Jellybean until this is resolved.
Btw, Chrome shows this behaviour even in Jellybean, couldn't be that google wanted to cripple other browswers to make Chrome look less broken?
Btw, Chrome shows this behaviour even in Jellybean, couldn't be that google wanted to cripple other browswers to make Chrome look less broken?
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #254
Still not solved in Lollipop!!!
If this is 'working as intended' then Google your intentions are completely wrong. Who are you to impose to your users an anti-ergonomical rule that makes half of the web unreadable?
Firefox? Was my favorite browser, no more. How disappointing :-(
It seems Dolphin is the only browser that doesn't follow this craze.
If this is 'working as intended' then Google your intentions are completely wrong. Who are you to impose to your users an anti-ergonomical rule that makes half of the web unreadable?
Firefox? Was my favorite browser, no more. How disappointing :-(
It seems Dolphin is the only browser that doesn't follow this craze.
im...@gmail.com <im...@gmail.com> #255
It's infuriating and most people do not even know what text wrap is. So I ust bought my first iPhone. If I'm going to have reduced functionality, I might as well have an iPhone.
im...@gmail.com <im...@gmail.com> #256
And now I can no longer forward voicemails and have to double check Apple's spell check which seems to have a limited vocabulary. Also there is no .com button on the keyboard.
aa...@gmail.com <aa...@gmail.com> #257
I switched to blackberry because of this issue. Got a blackberry passport. Haven't looked back.
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #258
I just use Opera browser now, it has amazing text wrap/reflow which you can switch on or off. Dolphin is also not bad, matter of preference. It's a shame every other browser is pretty much off-limits for me just because of this one missing feature. An on/off defaulted to off would have been fine for me instead of taking it away completely, and there are so many different types of apps that could benefit from this if it was at least an option in WebView. How about giving users and developers the choice.
nd...@gmail.com <nd...@gmail.com> #259
hard to believe there hasn't been more general uproar about this and that it has not been fixed. it drastically reduces the usability and usefulness of the mobile internet. has there ever been ANY upside rationale offered for this?
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #260
> Cc: -mkos...@android.com
abandon ship for Blackberry, Firefox, Ubuntu, ...
> dolphin, UC, etc.
[PRIVACY] WARNING: Dolphin's collection of your browsing history
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319529
abandon ship for Blackberry, Firefox, Ubuntu, ...
> dolphin, UC, etc.
[PRIVACY] WARNING: Dolphin's collection of your browsing history
tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #261
Google is playing God again! The message i'm getting here is that Google's actions have affected android users browser experience. Text reflow (or word wrap) is the first thing i looked for when buying a phone, if it didn't do it i wouldn't buy it, simple. However, i'm now forced to upgrade to Lollipop with no text reflow, if i want to use a particular notification feature on my fitbig surge watch. Again it's Google who are forcing the upgrade to Lollipop, so i will do without the smartwatch feature which notifies me of incoming calls and sms. Google want to force web designers to change websites to allow for mobile view. As far as i'm concerned a mobile website is ugly and bulky compared to a desktop version of a website. They are purposely not providing the android user with text reflow to attempt to force a rebuild of websites. I use my HTC One Max for my aging eyes because it has a large screen and text reflow allows me to zoom and the text will fit automatically into the screen area. I tried to work with a browser that doesn't text reflow and the experience was awful...swipe right....read....swipe left.....read....swipe right....read.....swipe left....scroll up....and repeat over again...dizzying to say the least. I gave up after 20 seconds, it's just bizarre Google are trying to make a change to mobile webdesign at the expense of the user browser experience. Google need listen to users requests and allow this much talked about feature. Nearly everyone i talk to says exactly the same thing about not being able to use text reflow on their android phone. My concern is how come we don't read about it on the internet....oh yeah that's right Google can choose to discard certain subjects from search!!!!
gi...@gmail.com <gi...@gmail.com> #262
@Google: This is a Major Accessibility issue!
Do you know what accessibility means?
Don't give me, 'this is not a bug', 'functionality is as intended'..
Fine, I'm forced to ditch your Chrome browser, stock browser and Gmail app and/or revert to Jelly Bean. I may even just jump ship to Apple.
Accessibility, User Experience, Usability - you just don't get it, or just don't care?
Do you know what accessibility means?
Don't give me, 'this is not a bug', 'functionality is as intended'..
Fine, I'm forced to ditch your Chrome browser, stock browser and Gmail app and/or revert to Jelly Bean. I may even just jump ship to Apple.
Accessibility, User Experience, Usability - you just don't get it, or just don't care?
er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #264
"working as intended" must mean broken...
gl...@gmail.com <gl...@gmail.com> #265
All of your comments are falling on deaf ears. Google doesn't read any of this and don't care too. Ever since Google to over android years ago, the thinking has gone out the door. If everyone would stop buying phones with Android for this reason, Google still wouldn't add it back in. I'm on the verge of jumping ship too. I only use chrome because of the bookmark sync. Otherwise, I'd use Dolphin. But Dolphin bookmark sync is problematic. I've lost bookmarks in the past which is a big read flag for me. Google, stop letting the suites make the decision and listen to your developers and the Google community.
ne...@gmail.com <ne...@gmail.com> #267
There's a bunch of stubborn guys in the Google staff/management, very sad.
That's the reason I don't use Chrome and Gmail on my phone because they don't have the text reflow (anymore).
The problem is removing that feature also affects many aother browsers and apps that were using it :(
Just swallow your pride and admit tou were wrong: BRING BACK THE TEXT REFLOW !!!
That's the reason I don't use Chrome and Gmail on my phone because they don't have the text reflow (anymore).
The problem is removing that feature also affects many aother browsers and apps that were using it :(
Just swallow your pride and admit tou were wrong: BRING BACK THE TEXT REFLOW !!!
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #268
Just bought a Galaxy A5.its going back tomorrow because of this issue. Will be purchasing a Windows phone.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #269
Issue still not fixed. They keep trying to fix this with the 'text zoom' setting in the accessibility setting, but it simply does not work.
Examples of sites that still don't work properly:
http://www.ap.org/content/press-release/2015/ap-makes-one-million-minutes-of-history-available-on-youtube
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~graves/handwriting.html
http://news.ycombinator.com
Other problem: on some sites, font sizes vary immensely - some things are very very small, while the main text on the page is large - which forces you to zoom in and out too much and looks plain ugly. Also, on some sites, the font becomes too large, and you can't zoom out to get something that is readable comfortably.
All of this can be solved by reimplementing the text reflow feature (or, of course, just buying the code from Opera).
Somehow, it seems that Google simply doesn't want us to look at sites that were not specifically designed to look good on Chrome mobile...
Examples of sites that still don't work properly:
Other problem: on some sites, font sizes vary immensely - some things are very very small, while the main text on the page is large - which forces you to zoom in and out too much and looks plain ugly. Also, on some sites, the font becomes too large, and you can't zoom out to get something that is readable comfortably.
All of this can be solved by reimplementing the text reflow feature (or, of course, just buying the code from Opera).
Somehow, it seems that Google simply doesn't want us to look at sites that were not specifically designed to look good on Chrome mobile...
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #270
Hey dickheads. Even this page doesn't work.
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #271
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an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #272
Not appropriate, #274.
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #273
How so #275?
go...@clearthought.info <go...@clearthought.info> #274
Web browsing is completely broken if users cannot resize text without having to scroll horizontally. This is easy to fix, but it's still broken. It's like Google doesn't care about the users.
When a user zooms in on a web page, the DOM renderer should simply act like the window got smaller and render with standard HTML word wrapping. It's not rocket science. Then the browser should take the rendered layout and rasterize it at the window size. It's really not that hard. You actually have to go out of your way to fail at this.
When a user zooms in on a web page, the DOM renderer should simply act like the window got smaller and render with standard HTML word wrapping. It's not rocket science. Then the browser should take the rendered layout and rasterize it at the window size. It's really not that hard. You actually have to go out of your way to fail at this.
te...@gmail.com <te...@gmail.com> #275
Clearly Google don't give a... considering it's been broken for so long. I'm more amazed that literally millions of users just shrugged and side scrolled their way through humongous web pages without complaint.
tv...@gmail.com <tv...@gmail.com> #276
No of course they don't care. They even removed the headphone jsck in the pixel 2. No company that actually cares would do that. Just use Opera, it has flawless text reflow..
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #277
Current browsers with reflow: Opera, lightning browser, UC browser, naked browser and the old but usable HTC internet (google the apk, it is discontinued)
Naked browser has a bookmarklet to turn a page into "night mode" (black background, gray text)
We should pool some money and pay a developer to make us a reflow browser
Naked browser has a bookmarklet to turn a page into "night mode" (black background, gray text)
We should pool some money and pay a developer to make us a reflow browser
wr...@gmail.com <wr...@gmail.com> #278
Yandex Browser also supports text reflow.
te...@gmail.com <te...@gmail.com> #279
That's great, what was the reason agin why Google stopped it on their
browser?
On 8 June 2018 at 06:26, <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
browser?
On 8 June 2018 at 06:26, <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #280
Dolphin browser also reflows.
So the list of reflow browsers, to June 2018:
1. UC Browser (not UC mini)
2. Lightning browser
3. Dolphin browser
4. Naked browser
5. Opera (not Opera mini)
6. Yandex browser
7. HTC Internet (discontinued, apk available)
Really, this has become a non-issue, being available seven alternatives to Chrome. One can use Chrome for banking etc., and for reading any of those other mentioned browsers.
The special advantage of Lightning and Naked, is that they use the native Android engine, so they are very lightweight and fast. Lightning is also open source.
So the list of reflow browsers, to June 2018:
1. UC Browser (not UC mini)
2. Lightning browser
3. Dolphin browser
4. Naked browser
5. Opera (not Opera mini)
6. Yandex browser
7. HTC Internet (discontinued, apk available)
Really, this has become a non-issue, being available seven alternatives to Chrome. One can use Chrome for banking etc., and for reading any of those other mentioned browsers.
The special advantage of Lightning and Naked, is that they use the native Android engine, so they are very lightweight and fast. Lightning is also open source.
gl...@gmail.com <gl...@gmail.com> #281
Atlas Browser reflows too (when you zoom with the 3-finger pinch gesture).
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 09:38 <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 09:38 <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
do...@gmail.com <do...@gmail.com> #282
Maybe this is not an issue for the technically capable, but it is an issue for many (probably millions of) people who try to read web pages and news articles on their Android screens and constantly have to scroll back and forth to read each line of text. It's embarrassing for Android. A really bizarre that something this pervasive can't be fixed.
Description
Example:
- visit
- headlines go past the screen edge instead of wrapping
- use setUseWideViewPort(true) to try to fix issue
- some content on page is squeezed into a tiny column and unreadable
- zoom page does not reflow text
This is reproducible on many sites. With wide viewport off, user must scroll side-to-side to read content. With wide viewport on, page renders badly and often makes content unreadable. Workaround is for user to physically change orientation of screen to landscape and hope that screen is wide enough that hidden content is given enough of a place to render.
Issue seems related to deprecation of WebSettings.LayoutAlgorithm NARROW_COLUMNS and SINGLE_COLUM, which are not operative in KitKat. See also:
A main complaint about Chrome Browser for Android has been that it does not do text wrap. Now with KitKat all WebView-based browsers have the same bug. Please reinstate NARROW_COLUMNS so that wide viewport can be enabled and text will wrap properly to fit the width of the screen.