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Issue 73: play after rip
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Status:  Wishlist
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Type-Defect
Priority-Medium


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Reported by hoieradam, Sep 16, 2007
OK, I was reading the "no sound" issue and came up with some other ideas 
to "enhance" theLastRipper, but still keep it true to it's primary 
objective, to rip last.fm mp3s :)  I was going to post this to that issue, 
but figured I'd jot the ideas down in a new thread instead.

In a way, I can understand not letting the tracks be listened to, keep the 
program simple and to it's point "ripping" :)

On the other hand, a "play after rip" feature would be great, as it would 
elimnate the "buffering" experience often associated with "streaming" 
content over the Internet, it could also eliminate the "up and down" music 
volumes, that some user(s) report on the last.fm forums -- since most 
common audio players nowadays have a volume normalizer/replaygain feature 
of some sort built into the player.

One problem I've seen though, is tracks I don't want downloaded and/or 
scrobbled to your account will get tallied up, because you won't 
actually "hear" them until they are already tallied into your profile; 
making it a chore for people to remove tracks from their accounts that 
they do not want.

mmm...then a feature request/idea :)  Allow an artist "filter"?  Say, 
a "blocklist" of sorts.  That would stop theLastRipper from "scrobbling" 
or downloading certain tracks by certain artists.  So basically, I could 
tune in to the "rock" tag, set the lastripper to not rip NOR scrobble 
artists: Ja Rule, Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavigne (y'know, cause that's not 
really "rock", but people on last.fm like tagging stuff weird :P)

Obviously, the player could still "play" the track (or if the user notices 
it playing, they could skip it...either way) but having the option to not 
scrobble or not Download...or even Scrobble, but not Download (maybe they 
already have that artists mp3s on their hard drive or whatever, but still 
would like the artist track to be submitted to their profile)

Though I don't know how in depth the team wants to go with the project ;)
Comment 1 by jopsen, Sep 16, 2007
Like you say: Most people wants playback because it would enable them to skip song
they don't like... That's what I've heard from countless users.

But I think it's could be possible to fix this issue by implementing  issue 15 . You
suggest blacklisting, that solution would never work completely, since you can't
blacklist everything you don't want :)
Furthermore, I think it's important to make sure TheLastRipper is "an opensource
audio stream ripper for last.fm", not "last.fm ripper".
If you look at the unofficial documentation of Last.fm protocol version 1.2 in our
wiki, you'll see that thís new protocol could be abused, very easily. I don't think
we want to do that. Features like blacklisting, autoskip etc. are kind of moral
dilemmas to me, I think I'll create an open discussion for these topics, once we've
got an implementation of the last.fm protocol version 1.2.

Anyway, playback after rip isn't a bad idea... But it would probably require somekind
of interfacing with the default mediaplayer. I know there's a dbus specification for
Linux audio players in the workings (don't know the current status). But how could I
interface a generic audio player on Windows or OS X?
I assume you want to add newly recorded tracks to the playlist of the users
audioplayer of choice.
Comment 2 by hoieradam, Sep 16, 2007
I dont see a problem with a blocklist.  It would not go against the protocol, 
obviously thelastripper would still spin the tracks as the last.fm streaming server 
sends them over, but the "feature" I was outlining (the blocklist) would stop the 
track from being downloaded if it was a track from an artist they do not want 
downloaded.  I'm not suggesting any sort of "auto-skip" feature as that would 
definately be against the protocol...I was only suggesting a way to not allow file 
downloads of certain artists (since one can view the tag/artist cloud before jumping 
into a radio station to see probable streaming artists).

Last.fm already allows removing recent plays, the suggesting of 
removing "blocklisted" artists from recent plays was just a suggestion.
Comment 3 by jopsen, Sep 17, 2007
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Status: Wishlist
Comment 4 by outlikeashoe, Feb 25, 2008
"play after rip" wuold be a great feature, and it's quite easy to do,
just adding a modifiable command that adds the last ripped mp3 to a player queue.

for winamp: winamp /add "path to file"
for amarok: dcop amarok playlist addMedia("path to file")

and I think that for other players will be a command that do so.
Comment 5 by jopsen, Feb 25, 2008
I think dcop is being depreached with 4.x of KDE
Comment 6 by jopsen, Feb 25, 2008
By the way I remember look into some dbus unified specification for all media
players... but I don't think it's been implemented yet...

But enabling people to execute a command after each songs been download shouldn't too
hard... this would also be a nice solution to adding replaygain..
Comment 7 by stolsvik, Apr 09, 2008
Three words: embedded stream server.

Would be fantastic to be able to rate as you rip. Or rather, rip as you play. And
PLEASE, if this ever comes to be, add a hook to the "forward/next"
"multimedia-button" on new keyboards, and also some other hotkey button tag the song
with a predefined tag (or stick it to loved) (maybe the "back"-button can be used,
since that doesn't make sense with last.fm).
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