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#Frequently Asked Question. Why doesn't QuickTime and others Apple's devices see the subtitles/chapters? The file extension must be .m4v, or QuickTime and iPod/AppleTV won't show any subtitles tracks. How can I add chapters' images? Enable the "Create Preview Images" checkbox in the Preferences, the next time you will save or optimize a file, a new track with the chapters' images will be created. Why does my SRT file not import in Subler? Even though the text encoding detector should detect the text encoding of your SRT file, it sometimes fails to do so. You'll increase your chances of success by using UTF-8 encoding. You can use Jubler to edit the SRT file before importing in Subler. AppleTV 2 hangs on movies with AC-3 audio? It seems the latest ATV2 software needs the file to be properly interleaved. You can make it so by using Subler's Optimize function. What's the "Optimize" function ? It interleaves the audio and video samples, and puts the "MooV" atom at the begining of the file, restoring the Quicktime "fast-start" (also known as "pseudo-streaming") ability of the file. Why can't I mux file larger than 4GB? You need to enable the "64 Bit chunk offset" checkbox if you think the files will be bigger than 4GB. It's not enabled by default, because many devices (old iPod, Playstation 3) can't read this type of mp4. |
Does it support .ssa subtitles? What won't .sub work (it crashes)
no it doesn't.
Will/does subler support divx/xvid ?
divx/xvid are video codecs and so the question is not really applicable. Subler is an MP4 container "editor" that allows you to add streams (video, audio, subtitles, chapter markers) and meta data (tagging). MP4, as a standard, only supports particular codecs and I don't think divx/xvid are in that list.
Divx/Xvid are implementations of the mpeg-4 asp standard. But it's usually stored in avi using a lot of crappy hacks, and it's stored the same way in matroska too. So I don't really want to have anything to do with it.
Is a negative subtitle delay possible?
yrs.
menu 'preferences' is unavailable in subler (version 0.9.3). is that normal?
Subler has become the best all-around MacOS X tool for adding subtitles, chapters and metadata. Is there any chance that HREF tracks will be added? Admittedly, HREF Tracks aren't as exciting as the others and don't even work under QuickTime? X (bug report submitted and acknowledged as a 'known' issue).
Subler has become my default tool for editing tags adding subtitles and chapters. I am just missing one thing which is support for a service like TagChimp?. A standard Subler import/export interface in a xml format would be enough for me in a first place. Is it something that you have in plan ?
Yes, I plan to add TagChimp? or others services. But I don't know when I will add it.
This is a great app, thank you!
However, I find that (in iTunes and QuickTime? Player), long subtitle lines wrap automatically on Mac OS X but do not wrap (and are therefore cropped at the edges) on Windows. Is there any way to encourage the subtitles to wrap, or would I have to insert hard linebreaks? The TTXT XML format seems to support a "wrap" option, but as far as I can see Subler requires SRT. Is there a "wrap" option in SRT?
When subler adds a subtitle track it puts it on Layer -1 what does that mean and how do I duplicate it with MP4Box?
Hare the current commands I use for MP4Box:
MP4Box -add sub1.srt:lang=eng:layout=0x60x0x-1:group=2 output.m4v
MP4Box -add sub2.srt:lang=afr:layout=0x60x0x-1:group=2:disable output.m4v
Don't know if you can answer this question also, but do you know how to make MP4Box stop doing this:
Forcing AVC/H264 SAR to 1:1...
Saving output.m4v: 0.500 secs Interleaving
I don't want it messing with my files whatsoever.
Never mind above. I found if I rename it to .mp4 it doesn't auto process it and I can do this:
MP4Box -add sub1.srt:lang=eng:layout=0x60x0x-1:group=2:hdlr="sbtl:tx3g" output.mp4
MP4Box -add sub2.srt:lang=afr:layout=0x60x0x-1:group=2:hdlr="sbtl:tx3g":disable output.mp4
Still not sure what your Layer -1 is.
layer -1 means that the track is always above the video track (layer 0).
I read this page regarding it:
http://gpac.sourceforge.net/doc_ttxt.php
Semantics
Still not really sure what that means. When a subsequent track is added using subler it still stays at -1.
I do see the layer option in quicktime pro as well. Its verbage is "Smaller layer numbers are further forward". Still not laymans enough for me...
What is your suggestion for handling 2 english subtitles with Apple TV?
Currently it only plays the first english subtitle. You cannot select the 2nd one. One you select english then both english subtitles are selected. I have to change the language on the second one to something else. Anyway to add some sort of description to the subtitle? Like "Directors Commentary".
I tried setting to the alternate group to like 3 on the 2nd english track and then it doesn't even show up on the Apple TV.
Double click on the text in the name column in subler, and you will be able to change the track name.
that works in subler, can now select from 2 different english subtitle tracks.
not sure how you are doing that bit of magic, can't even set that in quicktime pro.
You can set the name in QuickTime? Pro too, double click on the track name in the Movie Property window.
My apologies if this is not the correct place to post, but my question is related and i did not want to clutter the section on issues.
For starters, subler works great for anything Apple, as well as VLC and mplayer and their derivatives. The only problem is that when subtitles are added, the files refuse to play on the popcorn hour and western digital live (and most likely some others). I understand that it is up to these developers to add support, but is there some way in which subler can make these files degrade more gracefully and still play, regardless of subtitles?
I am not entirely sure, but it seems like these devices fail whenever encountering a sbtl:tx3g type of track. Apparently, this is not a problem with text:tx3g, but I am unsure whether Apple devices correctly detect the subtitles in such a case. Would it be possible to test whether text:tx3g works for Apple equipment (I would be happy to test some beta or developer build with this feature)? If this is the case, perhaps text:tx3g might be a safer choice than sbtl:tx3g.
Then again, I might be completely wrong :-).
text:tx3g in QuickTime?? uses the standard tx3g decoder, but it's and old type quicktime component, slow and deprecated. And it doesn't even work on QTX/iPod/iPhone.
A mp4 demuxer should ignore everything it doesn't know, if it doesn't it's clearly broken and not ready for any small change that may happen in the future.
Ok, just as I thought then. I was under the impression that I used text:tx3g in the past and that it made all my movies choppy. Given your explanations, my impressions may just be about right. :) Thanks for answering!
How do you remove explicit tags? I've been trying and I just can't work the program out at all.
Oh, that's hidden in the Other Settings tab.
Yeah, I saw that but then what do I do after that? Like, I actually have no idea what I'm doing at all. :S
Uh, set it to none and save the file?
kvaruni, I am told if you rename the file to .mp4 then WD TV will see the subs.
"Why can't I mux file larger than 4GB?
You need to enable the "64 Bit chunk offset" checkbox if you think the files will be bigger than 4GB. It's not enabled by default, because many devices (old iPod, Playstation 3) can't read this type of mp4."
Playstation 3 CAN handle +4gb mp4 files :) (tested on my PAL PS3 with firmware 3.10 - .mp4 file was created with mp4box)
When changing the subtitle track offset a white thick "line" shows.
I have tried with a movie sized 1280x528. Because of the unused space below the movie I would like the subtitle to be shown there instead of "on top" of the movie. The offset was automaticly set to 0x468 wich will be in the bottom of the movie. But when changing the offset to anything else the thick white "line" shows.
tracy.rogers, my apologies for the late response but this does not work. All the renaming does is allow fast forwarding, which is impossible in the case of m4v. But the WD TV still cannot see or display the subtitles.
make sure you are at the highest WDTV firmware levels.
http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?level1=10&lang=en
hi,
can this application be ported on windows xp using iTunes installed libraries?
best regards
pokeutopia: For converting ssa to srt, there are tools out there to do that, though many seem to be targeted at MS-Windows. Searching around for a Mac compatible solution revealed Jubler ( http://www.jubler.org/ ), which is open source.
Why it dosnt work for .mov, but only for .m4v? Not everybody uses iPhones, and .mov is also a container..
Subler was written with MP4 in mind, and concentrates its strengths there. The project is open source, so if anyone wants to contribute to the project the possibility exists.
MPEG4 is not an iPhone only solution, and is in fact the current container for storing video, following on from MPEG1 and MPEG2. MPEG4 is a format supported by Bluray and a growing number of personal media players. The MPEG4 container specification is managed by the 'Moving Picture Experts Group' and is the upcoming defacto standard. See Wikipedia page for more information.
When saving a video, what is the difference between:
Video MPEG4 uses the m4v extension and the "M4V " brand. Movie MPEG4 the mp4 extension and "MP42" as the major brand.
The first is more correct for the files subler can create, but the software player only looks at the file extension.
In the save dialog box, what does the "64 bits times" checkbox do?
Also, I want to extend my sincere thanks to all the contributors of this project. It's an extremely useful application, and I really appreciate the time and effort you guys are putting into it. It's saving me a ton of time adding subtitles to my collection of DVDs that I'm encoding, as well as converting some mkvs I downloaded.
It means the file will use 64bit integer instead of 32bit int. Useless unless you have a movie longer than 13 hours.
Is it possible to include a DTS audio track in an MP4? I know Subler does not currently support muxing DTS, but I'm wondering if the spec allows it, or if I need to convert DTS audio to AC3.
Theoretically yes, there are some specs that defines how to mux dts inside mp4. But I don't have it. And it's useless to implement it anyway. There is no player support for it.
to fred.bailly issue 89 . I have run across the same issue, but not using handbrake. Do not tag in handbrake or attempt to modify the language of the video stream. damiog puts his own custom tags on the video and reverts it to 1:1 PAR. I don't know what modifying the dimensions or par has to do with this program. Seems like unnecessary features, encoder needs to encode video correct the first time. If you create a 720x480 anamorphic with DAR 16:9, this program changes to DAR 1.5, by using MP4 options, which aren't supported by everything anyhow.
i meant to say dont tag with subler if you dont want to it modify video dimension, actually I never have so can't confirm that it does mess up PAR/DAR if you do that, but if you change the language from say blank to english then yes it does totally change your PAR/DAR settings, which were correct to begin with. I only had to change language on a video stream once, and i just used mp4track to get around this issue.
I suggest making some sort of preference setting that disables all video par/dar adjustments or just get rid of the feature. There isn't anyway I found once your video is morphed into 1:1 par to reset it back to how it is supposed to be.
If you created a mp4 with a broken version of HandBrake?, it's better to fix it up. I was the one to change HandBrake? to use the pasp atom instead of crazy matrix values that broke everything in every quicktime player that uses clean aperture.
You can restore it by setting the right par and the right width/height.
It shouldn't change it in the first place, but well, it's not the end of the world.
damiog i sent you emails to your google account with 2 attachments for the dsecription and anamorphic bug.
I am not sure how or what the PAR/DAR settings in Subler. For example - some videos I have encoded to raw stream - after importing them and muxing to a m4v the 'Normal Size' the actual DAR that was used when encoding (i.e 720x480). If I leave the 'Aspect Ratio' at 1x1 then iTunes will show the video (under Get Info) as 720x480, as expected... however if I set the scaled size to 873x480 (widescreen DVD) while leaving the 'Aspect Ratio' at 1x1 - iTunes still shows and plays it at 720x480 - but my Apple TV will play it at 873x480.
So obviously iTunes and Apple TV work differently when playing the file. iTunes is the same as Quicktime time... uses the 'Aspect Ratio' where are Apple TV uses the 'Scale Size'
Ok - so that I get... but from curiosity I loaded a few m4v file that I purchased from iTunes... all those videos show a Normal Size of 0x0 and the 'Scaled Size' to a correct viewing size (i.e 853x464) And the 'Aspect Ratio' is 1x1 - so I am confused as to what the difference is between the videos I am making which show their 'Normal Size' where are the iTunes Store ones do not.
Cheers, Chris
m4v purchased from iTunes are encrypted with the fairplay drm, subler can't read them fine. But probably, they have the right par set in the video stream. Latest version of QuickTime? and iTunes read it if there isn't one set in the container.
I was able to reposition subtitles using the offset and size properties in Subler, but the change only seems to affect Quicktime 7. No matter what I try, I can't seem to affect position in Quicktime X. Is this a known bug, or is some other positioning method being used in X?
Thanks.
QuickTime? X ignores all those properties. Nothing you can do about.
It seems like MP4s that I am creating with the latest version of subler, are not working on wdtvlive. Previous ones are fine. I can take the exact tracks in the mp4, and put in mkv, and work fine in wdtvlive, so it is not incompatible h264 or anything. Any thoughts?
No idea. There aren't any known issue and I don't own an wdtvlive.
can you edit the FAQ or put it somewhere how to add still images to Chapters, i've downloaded the new update but I just can't seem to figure it out... totally noob questions, but even if you can point me in the right direction that would be great. thanks, oh and this software RULES!
You have to enable the option in the preference, and then save or optimize the file. There is no control over it yet.
Hi there. Brand new to Subler and had a question about adding the chapter images. I have over 6000 episodes that i've already added metadata to using Lostify, but would now like to add the chapter images using Subler. Is there a way to do this without it altering the metadata already attached? It seems to want to delete my New Zealand ratings when i just save using Subler. I want to make sure i have the process sorted before starting the mammoth task, i don't want to stuff any of my files up :-) Thanks in advance.
I've done a couple of tests and optimize seems to do that job, would that be right? Another question, is there a way that i can add artwork using Subler but not have it alter my New Zealand ratings? It doesn't seem to have a problem with any other metadata, just the ratings. I've tried leaving it as 'unknown' and also removing the rating column all together, but it still deletes what i've already added in Lostify. Sorry if these questions are silly. Thanks in advance :-)
If you have 6000 episodes, you better use sublercli, just make a little script to open them all and pass the right option.
For the rating problem… I think I will have to add the remaining ratings…
I've never played around with terminal nor tried writing scripts, so i'd better stick to what i know. So can i just check again, is optimize what i need to use to add the chapter images? Oh, and the rating that you don't have that i use a lot is M. You'll probably find that would also be of benefit to anyone wanting Australian ratings also :-)
I am having problems with videos that I muxed with Subler when streamed from my MacBook?/iTunes to my Apple TV. All the encoding settings are compatible... no cabac, profile level 3.1 etc etc - actually I don't even use B Frames just to be sure the Apple TV can handle it.
Not saying the fault is Sublers ;-)... the problem is the movie will be playing fine, but then suddenly stops/freezes for up to 10 min then continues for a bit and often will freeze again. I am watching the network speeds in Activity Monitor and the speed is steady around 4MB/sec.. so not sure if its the network... I have tried wireless (.n network at 5ghz with only my Mac Book using this access point), and wired (ethernet) - same results.
What I am wondering could this be something that the 'Optimize' feature would help? If I recall - this would move the moov atoms to the front of the file.... maybe that would help stream the file?
I should add that this happens only with HD movies that I encode at 4mbps (448kbps AC3 audio and 96kbps AAC audio). My SD videos (roughly 1.5mbps with 448kbps AC3 and 96kbps AAC) play typically with no problems at all.
If you muxed audio & video it with Subler, you should always optimize to have a file with interleaved audio and video. But 10 minutes it's a very long time, I wonder how the atv watchdog does even let it happens (it should restart itself much sooner).
Not sure... but I spent the day opening every movie and TV show that I made in Subler and 'Optimized' them - now I am not getting any errors (yet). And I can even see a diff when navigating in the movie.... as long as the place I navigate to is buffer it simple moves to the new location and plays. Before the Apple TV blue bar would show the buffer reloading then play...
it's working well now though so.... its all cool
Thanks
Could you add the ability to add metadata contained in a XML file? Preferably in the format used by XBMC (I can provide a template if needed) and in both the GUI and the CLI.
Thanks in advance.
Maybe, meanwhile you could open a new issue and add a sample xml file :)
First of all I want to say that this program is AMAZING and I will be sure do donate very soon~ I've searched around .... and I may be just missing it, but I'm trying to add the actual chapter names to each chapter. When I search for the movie and then it populates the data, the chapter section is just "chapter 1, chapter 2...... I then have to go to tag chimp and copy and paste the names into subler. Is there a way to avoid having to do this? THANKS SO MUCH~
There are options to import metadata.How does this work? If you import from a file what is the format?
I'm having problems muxing large HD (both 1080p and 720p) h.264 streams from mkv files. When attempting to mux, for example, an mkv with a 7.51GB h.264 stream with an aac stream that has been converted from a dts stream extracted from the original mkv, Subler will appear to mux the file all very nicely. However, when finished Subler does not display the newly muxed streams in the window as one would expect, and the file created is completely unplayable. I have made sure to check the "64 bit chunk size" box every time, and I have encountered this problem with several files. Coincidentally the only file that has worked successfully was one which was only 3.24GB in size. And I do stress that I did check the 64 bit file size option, even once trying with the 64 bit time code checked aswell.
Anyway, I'd like to heartily congratulate you on writing what is otherwise such a brilliantly, awesome, amazing program. I'm of the opinion that people never realise the hard work that goes into writing such a great program when asking for support, especially those offered for free. Congratulations again!
Using SublerCLI, how do I set the HD Video flag, the Media Kind flag, the Content Rating flag, and Artwork. I've tried the following but with no success:
SublerCLI -i movie.m4v -t "{HD Video:1}" SublerCLI -i movie.m4v -t "{Media Kind:Movie}" SublerCLI -i movie.m4v -t "{Artwork:movie.jpg}"
Other tags are added perfectly, eg. SublerCLI -i movie.m4v -t "{Encoded By:Name}"
Thanks
Is there any way you could add a feature (like a checkbox) to have Subler put in the iPod G5 atom? I have a lot of video that should fit on my old iPod G5, but is missing that atom to actually synch up properly (over 320p, but under 640p), and I was hoping to be able to add in the atom without having to reconvert all of it. In any case, Subler is a fantastic program--thanks for making it!
Есть ли возможность сохранить цветные субтитры при использовании Subler? При использовании Yamb это работает, а Subler игнорирует цвета.
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Is it possible to preserve color subtitles using Subler? Using Yamb it works, and Subler ignores color.
No is not, because no one wrote the code for that.
How the heck do I convert an mkv to m4v or mp4 with the CLI version?!? It works great with the GUI version...
First, thank you so much for this wonderful tool that is Subler. It is so useful ;-) Now, is there anyway to add subtitles to bought TV Shows or Movies (I mean Apple's FairPlay? protected ones) ? When I try to do so, it works, but when saving the file, Subler set "Offset" to value 0 x 65476 pixels. Then, subtitle cannot be display correctly. And I can never change this value when saving. Any idea, please ?
great program!!! Works like a charm and i know your gettin' hammered with a lot of requests, but Im wondering if there is a way to show/display the bit-rate for the audio track/s?
Extremely useful program! I was just wondering if you knew that there were 2 subtitles options for portuguese? I use Portuguese (Brazil), but it defaults Portuguese (Portugal) and there isn't any other option to change it. It's not really important but it's always great for stuff to be perfect! Thanks
Great program.
Is it possible to set the HD Video flag and Artwork in the CLI? If so, MetaX goes in the trash.
Anyone? All help is greatly appreciated.
Yes it is possible, I think it should be something like
-t "{HD Video:Yes}{Artwork:pathofyourfile}"
but there is a bug right now that prevent them from working if these are the only things you are changes, so you should change another tag too or something else for them to work.
OK, so whats up here. MetaX (AtomicParsley?) takes about 3 minutes or more to tag a file. Way longer if you remove artwork. Subler take only a few seconds!
Smoke & Mirrors?
This app is great!
How do you add the metadata from tagChimp? I go to File -> Import -> tagChimp, search for my movie, and then select the one I want and hit add. Nothing happens, no metadata is added to the file. What am I missing?
Hi damiog,
Any idea when the next CLI update might be out? I have tried to use the {Artwork:pathofyourfile} with various other tags and the results seem inconsistent. Also I was wondering if the Category tag is )or will be) supported?
Just wanted you to know the work you have done on this is great and very much appreciated. If there is any testing I can help you with, I would be glad to!
Thanks again, Bob
I am using subler to add explicit tags to my music. it does a good job, and its the closest i've gotten to adding the tags. my only problem is that wen i block my son's iPod touch from playing explicit songs. the songs still appear on there. I tried blocking songs that i purchased on iTunes but it won't block the ones I edit using subler. can you please fix the problem?
How i can add audio track (AAC) on CLI like GUI version?
urlu22: I have no iTunes Store file with an Explicit tag, so I don't know if it is a Subler bug or iTunes bug. 2derand: you don't (yet).
Here's my problem. I have a short (~ 6 min) video taken from a digital camera and converted by Handbrake to play on my iPhone. It plays there and pretty much everywhere else. But, when I add subtitles to it (with Subler) iTunes will no longer play the movie or load it (or tell me why). QuickTime? Player 7 won't load it and says "An invalid public movie atom was found in the movie". QuickTime? Player will play it, but not show the subtitles. It won't save it, giving the same msg.
This is with both Subler 0.9.7 and 0.9.8. Optimizing doesn't help. My srt file is very simple, and I checked it with SubCleaner?. I think all of my versions are up to date, but I can post any relevent version numbers. I know I've done something similar before, but I can't figure out why this doesn't work. Any ideas?
Version 0.9.9 seems to fix my "invalid public movie atom" problem. Thanks!
Just wondering how exactly do you launch this program? Everytime I double click Subler only shows up as an icon on my dock but the actual program doesn't show.
Does the subler menu bar shows up? if so it's launched you just need to open a file with File--> Open
New to Subler. So far it is amazing. Have a verys imple question. Does Subler import the Poster Artwork for movies from Tagchimp? Or do I have to manully add them? If so, where is the best spot to get the artwork? Thanks for the great program!
Yes it does, but there is way to at the moment to see it before clicking the add button.
How can I change the saved chapter photos? It works nice for films but concert films have black chapter photos as the stage is dark in between songs. I'd rather have a photo from midway through the chapter.
It's not possible at the moment.
I don't understand. iTunes Purchased files are supported?
I added subtitles on Breaking Bad 3 & Mad Men 4 and nothing shows with Q7 or iTunes 9.2.
Seems working.
- Scaled Size: 640x100 - Aspect Ratio: 1x1 - Offset: 320x600 - Alternate Group: None.
Help Request: SublerCLI - how do I use it to simply rebundle an MKV file into an MP4 file ? I cannot figure out the proper command sequence from the SublerCLI Help page.
does it support DTS audio to be muxed in the MP4 File? in wikipedia I saw that the MP4 container support this audio codec!
Does it supports ALAC audio? I can't add it, Subler talks cannot mux :( Thanks.
The subtitles are very small on my iPad. Is it possible to make them bigger?
No, there is no way to change it. You should fill a bug report to Apple.
ALAC is not supported yet.
When I select 64 bit chunk offset (my file is >4GB) and save, I get the barber poll busy dialog for a second and then it disappears and the project window is cleared of all tracks. This is with either video (mkv) or movie (mp4) options.
It will process without the "64 bit chunk offset" however the video is unplayable (as expected as it's >4GB) and MediaInfo? Mac just shows "MPEG-4" file format with no details.
Is there a debug log/mode to try and see what is happening?
Hi, I just wanted to leave a comment here that maybe can be useful to someone. Subler seems to have problems with muxing certain srt files that are not UTF-8 encoded. I normally encounter the problem that the srt file is imported without problems, and the muxing start, but the process doesn't finish successfully. I just change the srt file to UTF-8, try again and everything work perfectly.
Subler is really great, thank you for such an amazing work!.
is it possible to remove the grey bar arround the subtitles?
btw i really like this program!! is fast is great!! is does what i want!!(accept the grey bar arround the subtitles:P)
What's with the short film tag being applied if HD is checked off? Does iTunes treat the file any different? Because now I go in to MetaX after I use Subler and set it back to Movie instead of short film. Obviously, I'd like to skip that step as MetaX is slow.
Thanks for the awesome work on this, it's so much faster than MetaX.
You can set it to "Movie" in Subler too...
preparon: I don't think it's possible to rmeove the bar.
to bad.. but i stil like the program:d keep op the good work
Even when I set it to movie specifically, it comes up as Short Film anyway if you open it in MetaX. Maybe it's a bug after adding the Meta Data Group called Movie? (Tried setting it again after I entered the movie data info, but the same result) Is there really a difference in iTunes between Short Film and Movie?
Did you tried in iTunes after tagging in Subler?
Far as I know the movie type is not editable in iTunes. That said, I decided to see how iTunes handled the file straight out of Subler. Seems like it knows fine that it's a movie, no further editing in MetaX or anything else seems necessary.
Thanks for your help, and your work on Subler. It's a really great program.
Hi. I just bought a AppleTV (Old version) and have som of my dvd's ripped in MKV-format including subtitles. I'm using this MKV->M4V guide: [www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJkg3kgSr0]. But Subler can't handle the subtitles inside the MKV-file. The subtitles are in VobSub?-format. Am I missing something? (It seemed to work on that youtube-video) Regards Peter
I just finished ripping all of my DVDs with handbrake and found your great program to give them all metadata.
Everything was going fine until 6 movies in when I would try to save a file and it would just give the progress bar and never do anything. Any ideas?
Brand new 27" iMac running 10.6. All DVD files under 3 GB.
Is it possible to add a subtitle track, but not have it enabled by default?
In the iTunes store movies with closed captions have a "cc" tag (visible in column browser). The tag doesn't seem to carry over to iTunes player but a "cc" tag would be very convenient. Can this be added with subler?
Yes CC tag does anyone know how to do it??
Does your movie file really have closed caption or just subtitles?
If you need any testers for Apple TV 2010 / Subler compatibility I'm here. As for now, i'm converting my ac3 audio to aac (via mkv tools), and using Subler to mux aac+video+subtitle to mp4. It's working quite well (except I've some pb with the subtitles, but it seems to be a ATV bug). Subler, with an auto ac3>aac converter, would be perfect for me :D
Can you send me some photo/screenshot of how the new Apple TV shows subtitles?
I'll send you photo ASAP. The ATV shows subtitles as on iPad : grey bar auround subtitles. But there's actually 2 bugs : - when a subtitle get 2 lines, just the first one is shown. - after showing one or two subtitles, the ATV stop showing subtitles. But when I pause the video, it'll show it for a few seconds. I really think it's a Apple software bug.
I can explain a bit more what the problem is with apple TV.
SO, if you have movies which are not 16:9, lets say 2:35:1 the subtitles goes under the movie, in the black box, and its working great.
However, when its playing back a 16:9 movie on the Apple TV 2, it shows the subtitles for a some seconds, then goes away, if i press pause, it comes back up for a few seconds before going away.
However, this happens only on 16:9 movies for me. The polar express and transformers which are 2:35:1, subtitles show fine.
UP, and sex and the city 2, which are both 16:9 doesnt work at all. Tried to change the "alternate group" around, but to no avail.
Looks like some bugs in Apple TV's software.
Any chance we could get some sort of visual indication of the save progress? The barber pole, we'll, you know.
I'd also really like it if the Save filename defaulted to the input filename (sans extension, of course).
Maury
I see a post from Feb 08 on the Movie vs. Video selections, but I'm still not sure what they mean. If I encode to Movie, what effect does this have on anything?
BTW, do you ever need help on documentation? I'm a Wikipedia monster (7500+ new articles, 50k+ edits) so I'm pretty good with editing in wikis.
Visual indication for save progress is on my to do list for the next+1 version.
Save filename has already been implemented. There is no different is the real world is you select Movie or Video in the save windows, it just write a slightly different "brand" inside the file, which is ignore by every player.
Help on the documentation is always welcomed :)
Ok, I have some starting material. If you open me a new documentation start page and give me editing privs I can start putting it up. Or I could send it to you if you'd prefer.
You should be able to edit the wiki now :)
ok i've added some intro material. i'm going to move into the use-cases and step-by-step stuff. I'll need help from everyone here on this, because my use of Subler is limited to simple tasks!
I just downloaded Subler to give it a try. I've got some .m4v files created out of Compressor. I load one into Subler (by selecting file->new, then dragging the .m4v to the Subler window), import an .srt file, then click on save. Every .m4v file I've tried out of Compressor ends up with "Error: couldn't mux video track."
Following a different method, if I just choose file->open, choose the .mp4, then import the .srt, then save, it will save the file as the same name, but when I try to play the file in QuickTime?, now it gives the error: "The movie could not be opened. An invalid public movie atom was found in the movie."
Thoughts?
Can you send me one of those m4v files?
> "Theoretically yes, there are some specs that defines how to mux dts inside mp4. But I don't have it. And it's useless to implement it anyway. There is no player support for it."
actually it's not useless, because i think the appleTV can probably pass-thru DTS audio. it will be decoded in your receiver the way AC3 audio is when your appleTV is connected to a receiver.
Then find the specs and a sample mp4 file with dts that works on the Appletv.. :P
Great program, I know you probably get sick of people telling you what to put in your program and what not, but a few suggestions...
1. A script for itunes so we can mass edit videos 2. I'm not sure if its possible or even if itunes shows it, but the CC tag next to HD This is a great program and I use it daily!
What is the baseline setting for in the video track, what does it do?
You guys will do a version for Windows?
Hi I am using 0.10 of subler on 10.6.5 OS X, try to convert my 20TB video library for my Apple TV v2s.
On adding the SRT 3GPP subtitle track to IP Man 2 I get a QT "Invalid public movie atom was found in the movie".
Removing the subtitle and saving allows the movie to play again.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Hi, great app :)
i miss the splitt feature, is it planned?
---Comment by project member damiog, Oct 16, 2010 Does your movie file really have closed caption or just subtitles?---
I guess it is a subtitle track and not a true closed caption. If I had a proper "p608 format" closed caption would that automatically force the CC tag? Can Subler force the CC tag? I can email a pic from my iTunes library if you think it would help.
Yes, the closed caption track is needed for the CC badge.
In august ALAC was not supported YET.
Has there been any progress made?
I have tried muxing an .h264 video track with an ALAC audio track with no success, Subler always unexpectedly quits.
I'm really looking forward to an .h264/ALAC .mp4 =D
h264/ALAC QTPro / mov
Hi. I've just downloaded Subler - it will not complete to save, but crashes. I'm running OSX 10.6.6. Just trying to convert my old MKVs without the DVDs again. I can post the report - it seems a bit too long for this forum. Cheers. ian
Wow. Add subtitle Work great with Quicktime and iphone. But not working on PS3... the subtitle is not available to display... :(
PS3 doesn't support subtitles inside mp4.
I have been using subler for a while, great program, but I do have several feature requests that would make it much more usable.
-Change the release date input field so it forces you to input it correctly (YYYY-MM-DD). Maybe dropdown boxes or just three different fields to tab through. -Have multiple files in one window. For example, have a list of open files on the left or right side of the window. The user can edit each file, then save all at the same time. -Allow saving of "profiles" ie saved tags that could be applied at a later time, helpful for TV shows.
Again great program and keep developing!! Any chance it'll be in the mac app store for easier updating?
I can't figure out how to get the "optimize" option to work. That and "save as" aren't selectable, if anyone can help it'll be greatly appreciated.
Do I always have to optimize when I create a new m4v file with Subler?
Hi Damiog, I wish I could donate to Subler but in spite of all the great reviews it has I can't possibly mux my movies and srt files...
I have a 12 Go / 60 min Quicktime .mov file generated from Final Cut and a couple of appropriate SRT files. The movie is our last adventure movie, around and across Iceland on a tandem with our baby in towe in a trailer... see excerpt here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLc6BVdvSvE
I load the .mov into Subler, then the srt files, then I cannot export nor optimize, and when I try to save as a video file with srt embedded (.m4v), Subler simply vanishes... Any hint? if I could get the whole process to work properly I would gladly donate as I always do. All the best.
You can't mux dv video in mp4, Subler can remux only h.264/mpeg-4/aac/ac-3 and subtitles from mov. If you want subtitles in your original file, you can mux the srt alone in a new mp4 and then copy it to the mov file with QuickTime? 7.
Just wanted to mention, that using Avidemux (http://www.avidemux.org/), it's possible to transcode an avi, containing a xvid video, into a mp4 file, without re-encoding and loss of quality. The resulting mp4 file can be further edited using subler.
The only problem I found: iTunes and Quicktime (not AppleTV 2G) have problems with XVID streams that use a Quantization Matrix, that is not h263 (eg. mpeg or custom). Use 'mediainfo' (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/) to get informed of the used Matrix in your avi file, eg.
Format Settings, Matrix : Default (H.2.63)
Hi,
I used Subler to add both chapters and subtitles (English and Spanish) to my mp4 files. We use JW Player and FMS to serve these files. Everything was working great until we upgraded FMS from version 3 to 4. It seems to be an issue with having both chapters and subtitles in the MP4 because it will work fine in FMS4 with either subs OR chapters, but not both.
We ran the files through flvcheck. The failure for FMS3 identifies it as a box problem, FMS4 identifies it as a invalid chapter time but does not fail box problems. FMS3 seems to stream them anyway but FMS4 fails them and does not stream them.
Any ideas or a workaround to get both Chapters and Subs in MP4s to work in FMS4? I tried Optimizing but that didn't seem to fix it.
Hi What is Alternate Group? What is Fallback option?
Hi I've try to Input a MKV have Audio track with DTS 5.1. and I encoded another 2 Channel AAC as the backup one for iOS Devices. them the MP4 have 2 Audio tracks.
but when I save the MP4 file Subler just transcode the DTS into another 2 Channel AAC. could it keep the DTS and use the AAC which I've enocded by FFMPEG as a backup? or Fallback?
Hopefully there is a solution for this. When I have a movie with 2 audio tracks, one is 5.1 AAC@640kbps and the other one is 2-ch AAC@160kbps... can I change the settings so my iPad automatically chooses the second track while the default track remains the first for my mac?
Thanks in advance!
I have a general usage question for anyone. If I add chapters to one of my projects, or include a surround sound track, it does not seem to matter if the "enabled" check box is on or off next to what I'm adding. For example, if I do not enable chapters, chapters will still exist in my file - which is fine with me. I'm only viewing my files in QuickTime? player, but is there a proper way to utilize the enabled checkbox? Maybe a best practice for compatibility with things beyond QuickTime? player? Or does "enabled" simply not matter?
Chapters tracks do not need to be enabled. You just need to enable a track for each "alternate group", so one video track, one audio track even if you have more than one, and so on.
Just wanted to say how amazed I was with the new VOBSUB -> SRT feature. It's so easy to use - none of this faffing about for the user, typing in characters every few seconds, and it makes one's workflow a breeze when compared to SubRip?.
I was also very impressed by the accuracy. Knowing that the process was automated, I figured there'd be quite a few mistakes creeping into the final output: for un-styled text, though, I don't think there were any errors at all. Top notch. That said, the system fell over a bit when it came to italic text: for one it un-italicised it; secondly, a lot of the lower-case l's and uppercase I's came out as forward slashes. Is this something that is likely to be addressed in the future?
Once again, it's tremendous work you're doing here on Subler. I think it's simply stellar. Keep up the awesome work.
I have muxed an mp4 file larger than 4Gs, and I have set the '64 bits chunk offset' option. The movie can be played in iTunes, but there's no way of playing it in Appletv. It shows the wheel spinning and spinning at the beginning of the movie, and it never starts playing... Why?
You can try to optimize the file.
I've tried... And it worked like a charm! Thanks!
Absolutely love the app, just wondering if you can recommend a method to batch a series of MKV files in a folder - perhaps with some hooks to Automator?
much appreciated!
Batch is coming, you can find a test version and the discussion on http://code.google.com/p/subler/issues/detail?id=313
Hello,
Nice application, but half of the time, iTunes crashes when I try to open the film, after subler, before adding the subtitle, I can open the .m4v without any problem. Can someone help ?
I would consider make a donation, but I would like to be sure the application works perfectly !
Alright so sublet is the best program in the world. I few things though I would like to say.
1. Why not put on the Mac App Store? I would pay 5 bucks for this app.
2. I like how can input meta data into the file, but how awesome would it be for it to grab things like rating and other tags from imdb, and artwork from good sources like http://iart.toaos.tk/ or getvideoartwork.com
3. It also would be awesome to have a check sources button and auto mux like iVI does.
4. Finally allow the ability to open with a queue and not just all individual windows.
I would pay 20 bucks for something like this and I know its hard but its just a suggestion.
Thanks!
Hi,
After the new Apple Tv update, something is happening to my subbler converted mp4 movies... The default audio track selected in ATV settings must be the first audio track in the mp4 movie. Otherwise, there's no sound. For example, if I checked "english" as default audio track and "english" is second track in the movie, I cannot hear it. I must switch to another track from within the movie play and then switch back to the english track to recover the sound.
Thanks for your work!
I have downloaded Subler to add subtitles to some movies so I can watch them on my iPad and AppleTV. I have done everyhting step-by-step as listed on your website, but still cannot get subtitles on to the .mp4 file (converted from an .avi file using Handbrake). I open a project, say for argument's sake "Brotherhood of War". I then import the "Brotherhood of War" .srt file and make sure I have chosen English for the subtitles if necessary (and the .mp4 and .srt files have the same name). I then save and send to iTunes. However, there are no subtitles when this movie is played in iTunes (I haven't tried on Apple TV or my iPad). What am I doing wrong?
Subtitles needs to be enabled on iTunes (from the Audio and Subtitles menu) and on the other devices.
EXcellent - thank you!
each time after having saved a new project an I want to open it, my iTunes crashes. Can anyone give me an idea where I can have support ! THANKS
can someone please explain how to properly use the audio track options for a handbrake encoded file for Apple TV2? I usually have a stereo track and a 5.1 track. If the 2.0 track is checked and the 5.1 isn't, then the video streams to Apple TV2 no problem. If the 5.1 track is checked and the 2.0 is not, then the track does not play. I'm wondering if the Apple TV2 is smart enough to understand if the destination for playback is 5.1 compatible or not...
Also what does the fallback option do and what does the alternate group do? Thanks.
It wont show the VOBSUBs ill put by. WHen the saving is complete it doesnt show the subtitles even in VLC when i try to enalbe them
I was just reading the comment by jamien... He/She was commenting on a vobsub->srt feature. I was unable to find any such feature in my subler version 0.14. Is there a newer version or did I just not find the feature? The vobsubs do appear in the list of tracks in subler, but I have no clue how to convert them to .srt, in order to display them as soft subtitles in itunes or on the ipad. The vobsubs appear nicely in vlc, but not in itunes, as mentioned earlier. This is why I would be interested to use sublers vobsub->srt feature, if there is that feature.
I use Subler mostly to add tags to DVD TV series I've ripped with Handbrake. Trouble is, theTVDB.com has been down for a couple of weeks, so it just times out. Is there an alternative?
It works here, just as slow as ever, but it loads.
Thanks, turns out it was my router. I should have realised, turning it off and then back on again fixes nearly everything!
Excellent program. I used it to create m4vs from large mkvs that confused even MP4Box. However, I had to mux a few >4GB files to realize that the resulting m4vs were rejected by iTunes and Quicktime Player X because I had neglected to check the "64 bits chunk offset" option when saving, (using version 0.14.) May I suggest, please, enabling it by default when saving large files? I see that it is off by default because older iPods can't read them, (and the PS3, though a comment here claims otherwise.) However, since iTunes won't load them either, the benefit seems minimal.
An alternative might be to rename the option, "large file support" or similar to aid the incurious.
I have a few mp4 videos with the appropriate .srt subs. How do you mux these subs (if i used that right) into the mp4 file so my 360 can play them back with the subs?
I ripped one of my DVDs with handbrake (appletv2 default), and then added subtitles, and optimized the file. The file plays on my ATV2, but there is no surround sound after this. The ATV2 picks the AAC track instead (I see this on my receivers status panel). Just ripping with handbrake will let the ATV2 play the AC3 surround sound.
Is there something obvious I've done wrong?
Replying to myself, apparently the "group" needs to be set to 1 on both audio tracks. It wasn't set for some reason after running subler initially on the file.
Ok first things first, Subler is awesome, now i got an m4v file that im using to make an mp4 file the movie stars fine but after 10 minutes the video freezes and the sound still goes on ive already optimise the video and it didnt help, could ypu help me please?
@ the Person Above Me, When Optimizing the Video and Metadata Functions, Please Refrain from Using the COmputer Too Much, I've Done This And then It Corrupts the Video, not Subler's Fault though :)
hey thanks for the quick answer, but i didnt optimise at first, when i knew the video had problems then ive optimise the file, but the problem persists.
Is it possible to add multiple str files to multiple different m4v's at once?
Let say i just rendered whole TV season in handbrake and i got my srt's but do i need to add them one by one? Specially boring if i want to change language of srt's also...
I've just found your program and it is going to do exactly what I need. However, I am running in to two issues. One, it is resizing my 1280x720 video to 1248x702 by default. I can manually make this correction, but I'm curious as to why it is doing that. Secondly, it is stripping my audio. It will mux my SRT file with the video track, but there is no audio present. I can add the audio back from the original file, but, again, I'm curious as to why this is happening.
Thanks!
Great program!!!
Pls check my guide in Plex forum :)
http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/39265-my-solution-for-all-apples-devices/page__view__findpost__p__249587
I've been attempting to add .srt sub file to an H.264 mp4 video whatever. I save as a video, but the save only halfway completes (no error messages), and the file plays, but while the subs and audio work perfectly, the video is just a blank white screen. Why is this? :(
Hello, thank you for this app really useful,
I made a donation some years ago and have always popup to give a donation. Check box does't work. How many times I need to make a donation to never see it again ? :)
Is the optimise step done with subler specific code? Or could I achieve the same thing with ffmpeg, say? I may end up just using the SublerCLI, but am kind of intrigued as to how the optimise step is done...
I'm wondering how to import a VobSub? subtitle to an existing .m4v file and (using the build-in Tesseract) converting it to a text-based subtitle stream. Subler 0.15b3 refuses to load a VobSub? sub/idx set so am I correct in suspecting that it can only handle embedded VobSub? subtitles from an MKV file?