this is awesome, but we need to get use to it

Hey, I must say I'm really liking this keyboard layout. One suggestion I have though is to switch the "/" with the "?" and the ";" with the ":" (that way you don't have to shift to get to those more commonly used IMO? keys). I tried editing the layout.plist, but apparently it's more complex than that ;)

Any help would be great, and thanks for this great line of extensions!

I want "Using_5RowQWERTY " for korean..

how can I??

One of the problems with Dvorak is that when appliedo to a standard QWERTY layout the keys become very small... it would be awesome if you make a 5RowDVORAK :) using the 3 top rows for the keyboard, we wouldn't have the numbers on the top but maybe we can use the 7 keys left in the bottom for symbols ;)

VERY useful keyboard layout. awesome work. but, I have to agree with scouter32. The question mark is one of the most common characters when typing. It should be in a more accessible place, maybe even near the exclamation mark... maybe Drop the "^". Or, if you really want to keep the QUERTY layout, maybe set the shift key to be automatically on when switching to the second layout so that instead of the numpad, you get the functional keys... They are much more useful anyway.

Hi. Is it possible for this to work with the hclipboard copy /paste at the same time as I can't get it to work and would be v useful to have both? Thanks

hi! it would be very handy if it worked, but it not shows for me, is it interferring with clippy maybe?

I installed it but don't get the differnet keyboard when I launch anything that has a keyboard. Is there something special that needs to be done?

hclipboard does interfere with the 5th row. the globe enables/disables the 5th row. turn off clipboard in the general keyboard section.

Yeah, I like cyb3rmaniak's idea... keeps the QWERTY functionality working while making the more commonly used keys easily accessible.

For those that can't get the keyboard to show, you have to do one of two things: 1. Disable the default "English" keyboard in the Settings.app

OR

2. Press the Globe down in the lower left corner to switch from the default English keyboard to the 5 row QWQERTY keyboard.

Hi all,

Thanks!

Actually if you have suggestions you'd better file it as an issue or email me, because I can't get any updates from wiki :(

Anyway,

@scouter32: It's possible to customize in 0.1-7

@kyu7002: I'll add Korean support in 0.1-8

@johnjudd&bukidani: It's compatible with both hClipboard (hey I designed hClipboard! I won't let any incompatibility between them happen :p) and Clippy

@diegonavil: I had never successfully implemented Dvorak in iPhone because the keys are getting really tiny with the Dvorak layout, unless you move the shift & delete key away, or give up the diagonal arrangement. But Dvorak is about speed right? Anyway the focus is not typing fast on the iPhone keyboard.

@cyb3rmaniak: I may consider the option to switch NumPad? for function keys in 0.1-8. Along with switching number row with punctuations.

-- Kenny.

Hey Kenny,

Good job so far on designing all the code. I got two questions though, first of all the real t9 function (predictive input) does not work. I dont know rather it was designed this way of maybe its an error from my side.

Second, the 5 row add-on does something rather intressting to keyboard :) I will mail you the pictures in a few min. Got any ideas?

Thnx

@scoess:

MultiTap? doesn't have T9. See the FAQ.

Hi Kenny, How were you able to get into the code for the keyboard? I would like to mess with it myself. Where do you get all that? I could make up an entirely new keyboard but it would be more efficient to use the one that is already there and update it like you did and make it work on ALL programs

Please help. Thanks

@willettbe:

If you mean creating a keyboard backed by iKeyEx, read Creating_Keyboard_Bundles. There's some instruction on how to add custom code.

If you mean creating a keyboard entirely independent of iKeyEx while want to understand how iKeyEx works, you can browse the source code in svn.

-- Kenny.

Hi, great work with 5 row qwerty! Just wanted to ask:

Does the iPhone predictive typing (where it enlarges certain key's tap area depending on what words it predicts you're in the middle of typing) still work with this keyboard mod?

@maynardlam:

It's disabled in 5-row mode because it makes typing the wrong key even easier.

thanks for the quick response. it's actually kinda cool, i can type words like sesame and flickr now without using the backspace!

I guess I dont understand completely how to use the keyboard. Can we get into the .xib files? Where are those located.

Also could I be change the size of the buttons?

@willettbe:

What .xib files? There are no .xib files.

You can change the width of the keys but not the height with the layout.plist method.

I hope the next version could do some adjustment for the buttons' graphic such as the backspace and shift bacause they are not good looking (2nd & 3rd picture above). Besides, please consider the operation in landscape mode.

@fung0129:

(1) But if I prettify them the Winterboard themes can't change the pretty image. (2) What operations in landscape mode?

Hi, thnx for the great app. When I upgrade will my customized layout be preserved?

This app is cool, but there's one thing I don't like. When you start typing and it capitalizes, you type in a number and it types the symbol when I want it to type the number.

@gvanderhave:

Not yet. Backup should be automatic in the next version though.

@meainstsmart:

Sorry, can't help it here. Apple simplified the keyboard state to that there's only "shift" and "non-shift" state. There isn't a dedicated "caps lock" state for the keys.

Is it possible to use this English keyboard in combination with Dutch spelling correction? I've tried setting regional settings to Dutch, as well as the interface language of my iPhone, but that didn't help.

@thimo:

Are you using v0.1-9a? Go to Settings->iKeyEx->5-Row QWERTY->AutoCorrection? and choose Dutch.

@kennytm: Oh wow, I didn't know about those settings. Thanks a lot!!!

The keyboard defaults back to the standard keyboard, when I run it in Cydia. I have also seen this in other apps. Is it something a User can set, or is it a way the keyboard is called?

David B. Alford davidba@gmail.com david.alford@att.net

you can create vnkeyboard ?! Do you about it !? Thanks ;)

@davidba:

Because Cydia is an setuid app and MobileSubstrate? won't run in setuid apps. This can't be fixed.

@choigames:

No I didn't create vnkeyboard.

I have done lots of reasearch but still unsure how you are able to change the keyboard would you post .zip file with a sample? Thanks

this app doesn't work with intelliscreen. How can I make to run this?

Fantastic App! This was one of the first things I d/l'ed when I got my iPhone, and I just today stumbled upon the customization option in the settings, which totally made my day. Thanks for creating and updating this... it's been invaluable!

First, i want to say it's a great keyboard that makes me no need to switch the keyboard frequently for typing symbols and numbers. But a problem was raised, i am using the english interface, iphone would set english keyboard as default, mostly i would type chinese and english in iphone. When i disable the default one and select the 5 row keyboard and chinese keyboard only, iphone would ignore it and reset to english default keyboard. It doesn't have problem when i select 3(default eng, 5row and chinese) keyboards. When i turn the interface to chinese, it doesn't have problem too(may be the default keyboard would change to chinese). But if default english and 5 row keyboard should be selected at the same time, it loses the meaning of create 5 row keyboard becasue i need to switch from eng defaut to 5 row keyboard everytime when i type english. Is there any solution,looking forward to your reply.

Finally, I appreciate your great work!! Well done keep going!!

My email: bigging@gmail.com

@bigging:

Try to follow this sequence:

1. Start Notes, then switch to 5-Row QWERTY.
2. Go to Settings and turn off any internal keyboards you don't what
3. Start Notes again to verify it works.

Has 5-row qwerty been removed from Cydia? I no longer see it there. Thx.

Do you plan to port to fw3.0? I really the app but can't get it to work on the new firmware. Thanks

I agree. 5-Row is one of my fav's. Is there plans to port to 3.0?

Thanks

Please port it! I'm so sad that it doesn't work on 3.0!

@rbjscv, @TimMMarsh, @james.fgaard:

Please see http://networkpx.blogspot.com/2009/06/30-status.html for detail.

Please port it to 3.0 I missed 5 row badly

this is a fantastic keyboard app .. ditto on 3.0 support

ditto on the 3.0 support! great layout

+1 for 3.0! :)

Is there any reason why I can't get the keyboard working on my jailbroken iPod Touch 2G (firmware 3,0)? I've installed it, enabled it in settings, but I can't get it (or its globe key) to appear.

PLEASE port to 3.0. I love this App!

@amca01 It doesn't work cause it has not been up dated for 3.0. :(

plzzz port this for 3.0..

Hello,

yes! please update this for 3.0 ;).

I was very eager to use an enhanced keyboard May I suggest to add the delete key? (For me backspace is not enough and I don't like apple's philosophy of not providing it on any laptop, but that is getting off topic)

thanks for this great application.

Love this app, on my 3g. I jailbreak my 3gs and try didn't work please fix for 3.0

3.0 waiting for itttttttt

Really hope this eventually gets ported to 3gs

Great job kennytm!!

Anyone knows when this will be ported to 3.0?

Vic

Can't get it to work. I don't see a globe and I tried disabling default English.

How to use 5RowQwerty in 3.0.1 is here. http://toysn.blog103.fc2.com/

@emt930

Too bad it's not in English!!! :-/

@victorbrca

Excuse me. Written in English(Google Translate)is here.

http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftoysn.blog103.fc2.com%2Fpage-1.html&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8

When link to translation selected it a blank page. Any other links? tia

Hi Kenny,

Back again after upgrading to a new 3GS. I used the 5-row on my old 3G and was a big fan of it, but for some reason it doesnt seem to work on my new phone.

I installed ikeyex and 5 row qwerty, selected it in the settings, but when i change keyboard in for instance the sms/browser, it only switches between the two selected languages, and skips the 5 row qwerty :( I tried reinstalling several times..

Am i doing something wrong?

TIA for the awnser!

I found that rearranging keyboards in the Settings -> iKeyEx -> Keyboards menu worked for me. However, I had to disable the 4-row version in this menu AND the standard iPhone Keyboards menu in order to make the 5-row keyboard the default keyboard.

I don't undrestand what you mean by rearrainging the keyboards. Could you please give more details? Thanks

hi all ,

i can't get the 5row qwerty to work with my 3gs plz help :(

sweet keyboard but i want it on my 3.1 =[

there should be a 'notify when updated' form for e-mails like when a site has a product out of stock =\

any news on when this package will be working in 3.0?

hey guys, there's a video here on how to get it working on 3.1 firmware: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8P3FPgwqck

I was able to follow the instructions from the video, linked to in the previous post, and get this working. The layout is a slight variation of what we are all used to in the previous iteration of the keyboard, but still a marked improvement over the default.

the first link in the vid for ukeyfx is not workin. wont download... upload it some more

any chance this will be working on 3,1.2? loved this hack. loved it. miss it terribly

charles.friedberg: install the iKeyEx and 5RowQWERTY .deb packages from the downloads tab. It works just fine on 3.1.2.

Is there a way for me to select the special characters that I want to appear on the 5th row? I was able to select the characters in the customize menu, but they do not show up on the keyboard, the keyboard always shows the default characters. Can some one please walk me through how to do this. Rather than have the default ISO characters that is almost useless unless you have a full keyboard, I would rather have the characters that I use the most like the . , ' ? and so on.

Please help.

Thanks.

Hi KennyTM, I would like to know how to edit the individual key widths. From the 5rowqwerty samples, it's dividing the keys equally but I have a certain key that I want to have a different width than the others. Is there a command like shiftkeywidth for normal keys? thanks

Another question. I want to have a 5 row layout in portrait mode but in landscape I want a 4 row with a few modifications myself. I read about the uikeyboardlayoutclass and placed it inside the info.plist, designating layout.plist as portrait and layout2.plist as landscape but it doesn't work. Can you provide a sample code or help me do it? thanks a lot