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Issue 51: Easier way to setup personal messages
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Project Member Reported by felipe.contreras, May 31, 2008
This is a meta issue.

There's nothing msn-pecan can do, the issue must be solved in Pidgin, but
if enough people vote here it might make a difference.
 
May 31, 2008
#1 ian.haw...@gmail.com
I personally don't find it a problem. I can't really see how it can be enhanced! But
that's just me
May 31, 2008
#2 praveenm...@gmail.com
i dont really see this as a problem. its as easy as doing it on WLM
Jun 2, 2008
#3 motscou...@gmail.com
to me it's fine this way too !
Jun 2, 2008
Project Member #4 felipe.contreras
Well, it's not intuitive for people to click on Available, and then change the status
to Available again, so the field for the message appears. Sure, once you know then
it's not a big problem.

Besides, changing to another state changes the message, like auto-away.
Jun 13, 2008
#5 d.herr...@gmail.com
Yeah, I don't find it intuitive either ! Fortunately you told here how to do, I was
unable to find !
Jun 15, 2008
#6 craigwharding
If a gtk plugin was developed to add a text section that showed the current personal
message. This could be located below the 'Buddies/Accounts/Tools' menu but above the
Buddy List frame, then the user could just see the current personal message and then
able to click it to edit it. Perhaps I can work on this plugin in the future. What do
people think of this idea?


Jun 22, 2008
#7 epcmor...@gmail.com
@ craigwharding:
good idea
Jun 24, 2008
#8 ico2ico2@gmail.com
+1
Jun 29, 2008
#9 iyttahmi...@gmail.com
+1
great idea
Jul 3, 2008
#10 curlybap@gmail.com
+1

even if pidgin doesn't know anything about personal messages, could pecan not add a
dialog box from the account's menu to allow you to update your message?
Jul 5, 2008
Project Member #11 felipe.contreras
craigwharding: That would be great :)

curlybap: Sure, I can do that. Since the issue is similar to the nickname stuff I
guess people would find it easier to find there.
Labels: Component-libpurple
Jul 11, 2008
#13 Paradine...@gmail.com
+1
Jul 17, 2008
#14 zvedzo@gmail.com
+1
Jul 17, 2008
#15 lyma...@gmail.com
support
Jul 18, 2008
#16 pyren...@gmail.com
+1

Jul 19, 2008
#17 Sexy.Rus...@gmail.com
+1

I also reckon the personal message shouldn't change if the status changes to Away or
Busy.
Jul 20, 2008
Project Member #18 devid...@gmail.com
If possible the personal message shouldn't be saved as status.
Jul 20, 2008
#19 fierycro...@gmail.com
+1
Jul 21, 2008
#20 yann.papouin
I took me a few days before found where to set a personal message in Pidgin, I agree
that it should not be melt with the status message (not editable by default in MS WLM
if I remember)
Jul 29, 2008
#21 paulo.cabido@gmail.com
+1
Aug 18, 2008
#22 r.j.mee...@gmail.com
+1
Aug 30, 2008
#23 jesper.f...@gmail.com
+1
Sep 2, 2008
#24 jaywalke...@gmail.com
+1

Sep 2, 2008
#25 esteban....@gmail.com
+1
Sep 4, 2008
#26 soka55s...@gmail.com
+1
Sep 16, 2008
#28 postlo...@gmail.com
+1
Sep 23, 2008
#29 jisakiel
+1 as well
Oct 18, 2008
#30 max....@gmail.com
I agree, current behaviour is unintuitive. 
Oct 19, 2008
Project Member #31 felipe.contreras
Devid has implemented curlybap's idea, and that would override Pidgin's standard
behavior. You would still have the option to use the old behavior.

It's still no ideal, but other better solutions need to be implemented on Pidgin, not
much msn-pecan can do about it.
Status: Started
Nov 4, 2008
Project Member #32 devid...@gmail.com
In my implementation also the personal message is not changed when you change your
status (I really hate to have my personal message changed!), you can try it using the
next branch
(http://github.com/felipec/msn-pecan/commit/8eb8691e7c49be776508903b9cf9138ac5c2895d).
Nov 4, 2008
#33 craigwharding
Just to keep people in the loop from my comment above
(https://code.google.com/p/msn-pecan/issues/detail?id=51#c6). I've started this plugin
that adds a Personal Bar at the top of the buddy list. You'll have the ability to
change your Display Name and Personal Message for multiple msn and other accounts. 

http://www.nabble.com/Pidgin-GUI-addon%3A-%22me%22-bar-to19172351.html#a19172351
http://www.nabble.com/%22Personal-bar%22-mock-up-to19595048.html#a19595048

It's far from feature rich and I am still working on it to include base
functionality. I haven't created a homepage for it yet, but it will probably be on
code.google. When I create and have more details I will post it here and the
support/dev pidgin list when I get the page up and going.
Nov 4, 2008
Project Member #34 felipe.contreras
craigwharding: cool! One suggestion, can you use text fields instead of labels? That
way people can easily change the fields.
Nov 4, 2008
#35 craigwharding
I'm using labels for now (within an event box). When the user clicks on the display
name label it pops open the pidgin 'Friendly Name' request dialog box. For now, all
you have to do is update your display name and hit enter and it's done. One click to
change your display name compared to (maybe?) the two which is currently implemented.

I have better UI ideas for this and other things in the personal bar but like I said,
I am working on functionality right now.  This and other features/improvements can be
an obvious work in progress once I get the project page up and running. I am
definitely open to suggestions/dialogue once it is released and newer versions come out.
Nov 9, 2008
#36 ongkaq...@gmail.com
+1

Ya..I like this..
But..I also have a question

I sign in into 2 MSN account
And If i change my PM..Example: "Hey this is a PM"
It'll appear, only FOR A WHILE..
Then dissapear..

How do i fix this?
Or this is a bug?
Nov 10, 2008
Project Member #37 felipe.contreras
ongkaqrif: the way PM works will be totally different in the next release, maybe
you'll like it, maybe you won't :)
Nov 11, 2008
#38 TobyBag...@gmail.com
+1
Dec 7, 2008
#39 roi.de.n...@gmail.com
+1
Jan 11, 2009
#40 tashf...@fastmail.net
Using 0.0.17, personal messages don't seem to work if "use independent personal
messages" is unchecked.  If checked, I can use the Personal Message menu item to set
the message, but I assumed if I uncheck the box in account settings (removing the
menu item), then personal messages would be set by Pidgin's status.

Am I making the wrong assumption or is there another way to set the personal message
when independent personal messages is disabled?
Jan 11, 2009
Project Member #41 felipe.contreras
tbhi: you are correct, that's a bug.

It looks like Devid fixed it so expect it to work on 0.0.18, which hopefully will be
released soon.
Jan 21, 2009
#42 ongkaq...@gmail.com
Well, i must write 2 times if i want to set status on YM, MSN, GTalk, and AIM lol..
So please integrate it on status message setting..!
Jan 21, 2009
Project Member #43 felipe.contreras
ongkagrif: that's already done, but unfortunately there's a bug in 0.0.17, it will be
fixed in the next version.
Jan 21, 2009
#44 ongkaq...@gmail.com
That's what I'm talking about xD
Still waiting for the next version :)
May 13, 2009
#45 luisne...@gmail.com
I was using 0.0.17 (i guess) and back then I had an option to change my personal
message on the account settings and it worked fine. Now I'm using 0.0.18 from Ubuntu
repo and I don't have that field. By reading the other comments i understand that it
can be changed it the status selector. It is highly unintuitive and if I didn't went
on google I wouldn't know that. I'm all for change that, an option to set it up
somewhere visible would be enough. 


May 15, 2009
Project Member #46 devid...@gmail.com
If you want the old personal message feature (set using the menu) you should build
msn-pecan with "DO_NOT_USE_PSM=y build".
Jun 26, 2009
#47 vudu.cu...@gmail.com
I also agree!
Besides it should be here: https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts
since pidgin is the default IMer on Ubuntu and this definitely fits on that paper-cut
definition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut ! :P
Jun 26, 2009
Project Member #48 felipe.contreras
@vudu.curse good idea, I just filled one:
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/392482
Jan 24, 2010
Project Member #49 felipe.contreras
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Labels: Usability
Jun 15, 2010
#50 craigwharding
Please see the pidgin personalbar plugin. Revision 97 on svn or the pidgin-personalbar-r97.dll should work with msn-pecan now.
Jun 19, 2010
#51 gbrlg...@gmail.com
I agree wholeheartedly.
Jul 3, 2010
#52 SCIIAM2...@gmail.com
Seems to be only for windows... :(
Jul 3, 2010
#53 vudu.cu...@gmail.com
It's a gtk plugin for pidgin and it's open source...
From the project's homepage [ https://code.google.com/p/pidgin-personalbar/ ]:

How to get the plugin
For Linux, follow the directions here [ https://code.google.com/p/pidgin-personalbar/wiki/PluginGet ]

For Windows, download the dll file and place it in your purple/plugins directory
Sep 11, 2011
Project Member #54 devid...@gmail.com
This is just an HTML/JS mockup of how this could be implemented in a multiprotocol IM client.

If you use a personal message for each account you'll see under your friendly name an icon of the protocol and the personal message. The personal message changes to another one you're using each five seconds. This five seconds switch is needed to allow you to see all personal messages you're using.
If you click on a personal message you'll be able to see (in a bubble) all personal messages and change one of them. If you want to keep the same personal message for all accounts you can select "Sync personal messages" option.
mockup_psm.html
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