I agree wholeheartedly, but unfortunately it is not possible to do this without
getting  mobbler signed.  Signing will not be happening any time soon, if ever.

Are you sure? It is possible to autostart mobbler using PowerBoot
(http://www.wireless-labs.com/download/powerboot.php) but it starts not in idle
background mode but shows UI and I have to get out of it each time I reboot my phone.

Great app (mobbler) by the way :)

Please see this page;

http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/How_to_autostart_an_application_on_boot_up_in_3rd-_Startup_List_Management_API

The last bullet point in the list states that this is not possible for self signed
applications, which mobbler is.

Can you release an unsigned version that we could sign ourselves?

~Loz

I guess I could distribute an unsigned version that would auto-start.

There are a couple of things that I would want to add before making mobbler
auto-start and those are;

1) Choose a default connection
2) Choose if mobbler auto-connects when openning
3) Turn auto-start off

I quite want to avoid complicating things and this would mean distributing two
versions of mobbler and mainitaining two versions of the code, which I'm not keen on,
but I will think about.

any update on this? AFAIK fring has an autoboot feature and isn't signed?

Fring is signed, according to http://www.whythefuckwontmysisfileinstall.com

I would rather see an option for Mobbler to autostart (in the background) when the 
Music Player is launched, rather than whenever the phone is switched on.  (That's 
pretty much how my Last.fm plugin integrates with Windows Media Player.)  Does an API 
hook even exist for that?

I don't like the idea of having Mobbler running in the background constantly due to 
the resources it will take up.

>That's pretty much how my Last.fm plugin integrates with Windows Media Player

Is this WMP plugin available somewhere? The official Last.fm plugin for WMP 
sometimes crashes in mhy computer, so I'd like to test a new one.

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Eartle, is the app going to go through signing for this feature?

Yes.  We are getting ready to be signed at some point soonish so it might be nice to
get a start on some of these features.

The *draft* Symbian Signed Test Criteria 4.0.8 includes "TEST. 06 - Auto-start 
behaviour".

===
TEST STEPS
1 With the application running, find the settings for the application – either 
within the application itself or from the settings option on the device.
There must be an option which allows the user to enable/disable auto-start
functionality.

2 Ensure that the setting for auto-start behaviour is disabled, and restart the 
device.
The application must not start on device boot.

3 Now change the setting so that auto-start behaviour is enabled for the application
and restart the phone.
The application must start when the phone boots.
===

I have several other applications with autostart, but I've turned it off. I've 
noticed when I just boot the phone and view the task manager, I can see lots of them 
starting and then closing themselves. They must autostart in the background, and 
then check the setting, and then exit themselves.

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Yes, auto-start is enabled by having a resource file that says your app is an auto
start app.  It is recommended that when the user has turned auto-start off you read
this setting from your own settings files and close your app straight away.  This
seems quite silly, but is a technical limitation of the startup API that Nokia went for.

I would like to find out if there is anyway to tell if you have been started because
of auto-start or start because the user opened the app. Ideally, the first would open
in the background and the second would open in the foreground.

>I would like to find out if there is anyway to tell if you have been started because
>of auto-start or start because the user opened the app. Ideally, the first would open
>in the background and the second would open in the foreground.

On UIQ we used to put some command line argument when defining command line in
resource for autostarting apps. Then in E32Main just checked for this argument
presence. Can you do the same with Nokia starter?

There is an how-to that does what I think you are describing here.
http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Disabling_autostart_by_default

I'm not sure if we are going to do auto-start anymore. What we may do is have an
option to open Mobbler when the music player is opened instead like, the Last.fm
desktop app does.

that would also be nice-tighter integration, if that's possible without requiring
elevated signatures. also, is there a way to have mobbler automatically start
streaming from last stream on exit when you open it? (just so you don't have to keep
pressing play after handshaking, esp on slower 3g connections). thanks again!