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Issue 9: I have already used the name for *MY* programming language
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Reported by fmccabe, Nov 10, 2009
I have been working on a programming language, also called Go, for the last 10 years. There have 
been papers published on this and I have a book.

I would appreciate it if google changed the name of this language; as I do not want to have to 
change my language!
Comment 1 by dsymonds, Nov 10, 2009
References?
Comment 2 by fmccabe, Nov 10, 2009
If you google (sic) francis mccabe go you will find some references.
I published the book on lulu.com

Comment 3 by reidellis, Nov 10, 2009
I think Mr McCabe's language is called "Go!". Here's the Lulu link:

http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/lets-go/641689
Comment 4 by niral.n95, Nov 10, 2009
reidellis: is right! its "Lets Go!" or "Go!". This is google "go", "The Go 
Programming Language" Bigg Difference.. :)

P.s. Anyone hearing the release of Google "go" would have picked up their book that 
never sold and started finding the work "GO" and as they would find their 1st "GO" 
they wil go , Eureka! :)
Comment 5 by fmccabe, Nov 10, 2009
My language is called Go!. The book is called Let's Go!. 

The issue is not whether or not Google's go will be well known. It is one of fairness. 

Comment 6 by zhenshe41, Nov 10, 2009
In Go! , can the IDE know the differences between Go! and go ?
Comment 9 by shirish4you, Nov 10, 2009
ah... Google should change the name...
Comment 11 by spronkey, Nov 10, 2009
Indeed they should. Full support for you, Mr. McCabe. It's not that hard to find 
references to your language online either - it was on the first page of Bing, second 
of Google for 'go programming language'.

In fact, the title of the Google go tutorial page is even "Let's Go".

It would be pretty poor for you folks Google to keep this name given your "do no 
evil" slogan!
Comment 12 by nofakesallowed, Nov 10, 2009
Google should totally change the name, fmccabe you should find a (cheap) lawyer just
in case...

Google has deep pockets.
Comment 13 by nofakesallowed, Nov 10, 2009
btw, what's up reddit
Comment 14 by alex.salkever, Nov 10, 2009
fmcabe -- could you contact me at alex @ dailyfinance.com? Might want to write a
little article about this. Thanks.
Comment 16 by matthew.m.mckenzie, Nov 10, 2009
google should change!
Comment 17 by senthil.nayagam, Nov 10, 2009
maybe name it Goo or Foo
Comment 18 by mail2ankitgupta, Nov 10, 2009
A company claiming to capture world's info, missed it!!!
Comment 19 by terence.stuart, Nov 10, 2009
Let the language with the most users keep its name.  

Er... That's not yours, is it?  
Comment 20 by blair.briggs, Nov 10, 2009
Go, find a new name. ;)
Comment 21 by josecamporro, Nov 10, 2009
I agree with majority on this. Google should change the name of this language...
Francis McCab is right, Go! and Go are not that different. And he went first, public.
Comment 22 by sebastian.krause, Nov 11, 2009
Google should consider a different name simply for the reason that "Go" is just a too
common word and it might eventually become difficult to google for references and
examples about this language. A somewhat more unique name can have its benefits.
Comment 23 by Afro.Systems, Nov 11, 2009
I think lango would be a great name and I am hereby to give away to google any
copyrights for the name.
Comment 24 by ismetdere, Nov 11, 2009
Goo, whould be just fine.
Comment 25 by QrczakMK, Nov 11, 2009
Goo is already taken too, although it has been dead for a few years I think.
Comment 26 by zak.wilson, Nov 11, 2009
Goo is the name of a Lisp dialect.
Comment 27 by daniel.kolman, Nov 11, 2009
Both Google and fmccabe should find a new name, "Go" is silly name for a programming 
language.
Comment 28 by br...@silcon.com, Nov 11, 2009
how about GOOP = Google Object Oriented Programming?

mccabe- personally, I agree with you, but while you may be first, and you may be
published, your issue title begs not to take you seriously regardless of your actual
stature.

I do hope this is resolved in your favor though.
Comment 29 by jwb.public, Nov 11, 2009
how about ogle? 
Comment 30 by srikumarks, Nov 11, 2009
Given that is derives from Limbo, "Bo" would be short and sweet as well. They can also 
use "boroutines" :P
Comment 31 by ismetdere, Nov 11, 2009
Goo is gone too? damn..  what about Goat?
Comment 32 by killercore, Nov 11, 2009
I'd go for JAgo: Just Another go
Comment 33 by jason.lee.quinn, Nov 11, 2009
Goat Special Edition
Comment 34 by nikola.tepper, Nov 11, 2009
It is completely absurd to use name of an already existing language. Hey Google, 
couldn't you, i don't know... google it? Oh right, the name is so generic, that is 
almost impossible to get relevant matches. If this language catches on, it'll be a 
nightmare to search for problems and solutions.
Comment 36 by jsykari, Nov 11, 2009
May I humbly suggest "go2"?

Even C++ got away with naming the language after an esoteric feature of C -- perhaps
naming a language after "goto" isn't that bad.

Comment 37 by Linnsey, Nov 11, 2009
There are so many hobby and specialist programming languages it'd be hard to find a 
name that's not taken.
Comment 39 by david.kitchen, Nov 11, 2009
@33 Disturbing but funny... I can imagine the logo now: 3OE

@34 Look at the dates of these things, it would appear that go started around the
same time that the book was being written (but Go! already existed). I wouldn't be
surprised to learn that due diligence was done at the time but simply that since then
it just hadn't been revisited.

@36 http://xkcd.com/292/

Comment 40 by patla073, Nov 11, 2009
Why not just name it Golang?

Erlang - "Ericsson Language"
Golang - "Google Language"
Comment 41 by drc.uvic, Nov 11, 2009
Does anyone use 'Go!'? If yours is better, or has a decent user base then a name change might be the right thing 
to do.  If you're bringing it up for academic pride then I don't see why they should have to change anything.
Comment 42 by abouthors, Nov 11, 2009
Jago is already taken by a program to play the game of go.
Comment 44 by charles.majola, Nov 11, 2009
This is issue 9...... Plan 9..... 

Coincidence?
Comment 45 by tuxthelinuxdood, Nov 11, 2009
It is obvious that Google employees did not research the name in terms of existing 
languages before release. In such a situation I believe Google is at fault and the name 
should be changed. I doubt it will happen but it to change it would be in line with "do 
no evil".
Comment 46 by Geoffrey...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
How about "Google Go"?

Go2 is pretty clever though, so my vote is on that.
Comment 47 by roblesjm, Nov 11, 2009
Google always releases new products with the prefix "Google". In this case, I don't 
know if Google want release a new product or make an Alliance like Android. 
In the first case, I would use "GoogleC". For the second, something like "GCP" from 
(Google C Python).

Comment 49 by Peter.Schweizer, Nov 11, 2009
i'd suggest "giggity giggity goo" as new name since quagmire is a very funny guy

btw. hi reddit :)
Comment 50 by ruivaldo, Nov 11, 2009
"Do" ? Makes sense, check the purpose of the lang.

Comment 51 by ismetdere, Nov 11, 2009
Goat it is... there, settled.
Comment 52 by gkarag, Nov 11, 2009
How about OG?
Comment 53 by fboudot, Nov 11, 2009
Well, one of you should rename its language "gone" :D
Comment 54 by pierrevm, Nov 11, 2009
First Closure (name-squatting Clojure) now Go stopping Go! in its tracks. Just another week in the life  of a giant 
company. Google seems to be dropping to the level of ye olde "Embrace and Extend" - just throw your weight 
around - MSFT mode. Way to go (!) boys! I think I'll might just create a search engine called "Google!", let's see if 
this ruffles some feathers in the 'Plex.
Comment 55 by shrewd.user, Nov 11, 2009
Rename the language to just "G" / "G!" 

makes it more clear that it's a lower level compiled language and also indicates that 
it's new. 
Comment 56 by shrewd.user, Nov 11, 2009
or G plus
Comment 57 by garybradski, Nov 11, 2009
goo?
Comment 58 by vincent.vipertech, Nov 11, 2009
So what about the game GO. That name has been used for years too.

How well used is you language. Do you have a major following in place that use it or
is is just something you used.

You mention a web site publishing. What about actual registering the name before
Google gets a hold of it? 

Over time eventually every word or name can claimed to be used. If you don't actually
register its usage or copryright/left or trademark it I guess your shot.
Comment 60 by ronaldwh...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
Ironic that Google didn't Google the name first
Comment 61 by spiffistan, Nov 11, 2009
G, Golang and Goto are all great names. There should be a poll!
Comment 62 by segdeha, Nov 11, 2009
Considering the circumstances, the following might be an appropriate name: D'oh!
Comment 63 by tnhashmi, Nov 11, 2009
@55: I doubt if they'd call it G! due to Yahoo!. Or maybe they could, just to poke Y!
to check if there's still life in the rival ;-) Yahoo! had a product for mobile
phones called Go, BTW. It's now turned into a longish sentence.

I'd vote for go2 as well. It's the new go, the new goto and it doesn't take away the
"go func()" syntax for goroutines.
Comment 64 by david.kitchen, Nov 11, 2009
@40 Golang looks like a winner... they're already using the domain http://golang.org/
and it looks like no-one else is using that as a language name.
Comment 65 by alex.blewitt, Nov 11, 2009
Seems like a bit of basic research would have uncovered the similarity before announcement.
Comment 66 by yless42, Nov 11, 2009
@54: Closure is named after a well known and well established javascript (ECMAscript)
programming concept, which makes sense since that's what it targets.  I doubt it has
anything to do with something with a different (although close) name when something
with the SAME name is already part of the language they're doing.  If you're going to
complain about that complain about the fact that now searching for "javascript
closure" is ambiguous as to whether you mean the concept or the compiler.  Searching
for "Clojure" still returns the correct results.

As for the name, as you all rightly pointed out, one is called "go" and the other is
called "Go!".  Am I the only person seeing the similarities between that and "C" and
"C#"?  If you think that having an extra character is a problem, you should go speak
to Microsoft first.  People also pointed out the fact that "goo" is already taken,
who is going to be first to demand they change their name too for being too close to
"Go!"?  Or "G"?

I suggest you see these lists:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages
http://esolangs.org/wiki/Language_list

See how many languages there are on those lists where one name is only separated from
another name by one character?  Is this going to be a new campaign that any
programming language must have at least 4 different characters from another
programming language?
Comment 68 by Geoffrey...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
I'd like to point out that G and Goto are already used as names for programming 
languages, although Goto seems to be just a hobby language.

G - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LabVIEW
Goto Language - http://pivot.servut.us/w/Goto
Comment 69 by abouthors, Nov 11, 2009
I propose this name : IHAUTNF*M*PL as the formal, official name. For day-to-day
activities we could use "Issue 9".   ;-)
Comment 70 by pygy79, Nov 11, 2009
@66 the spelling may be different, but in both cases (Clojure and Go!), the pronounciation of the Google 
newly introduced products is identical. 

I don't know if there's a legal case here, but Google financial weight makes any trial unfair to begin with. 
It's more a matter of courtesy and good manners anyway. 
Comment 71 by ronaldwh...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
I agree it should be renamed "Issue 9"
Comment 72 by roblesjm, Nov 11, 2009
and... Goopy = GOOgle + PYthon?
Golang is great too.

Comment 74 by Kicken07, Nov 11, 2009
All those asking how much usership Go has:
 
Should that really be an issue? If Go is a legitimate language, Google should do the
sensible thing and change their name. Otherwise this would just be a case of the
little guy getting stomped on by the big company.
Comment 75 by klutometis, Nov 11, 2009
I third "Issue 9"!
Comment 76 by rnmboon, Nov 11, 2009
On a side note: it wasn't easy to find information on Go! via Google, Bing or Yahoo.
I can understand that the Google people may have missed it during a scan on whether
the name was already used.

It doesn't really matter though. A solution needs to be worked out here.
Comment 77 by wrinkles, Nov 11, 2009
Go and Go! are not the same? Great, I just started a new company called Yahoo.
Comment 78 by skyisle, Nov 11, 2009
Fantastic idea! "Issue 9!"
Comment 79 by rnmboon, Nov 11, 2009
They should change the name to "god". Why hold back on the level of ambition here.
Comment 80 by j...@ww.com, Nov 11, 2009
Google should do the right thing and change their name, be gracious about it.

Do no evil, remember ? 


Comment 81 by yarkot1, Nov 11, 2009
What is peculiar is that on Mr. McCabe's blog
(http://frankmccabe.wordpress.com/category/computer-languages/)  he mentions (in a
2008 post, the year after his go! book)  he's developing a language, and does not
mention this languages name (I am guessing it _might_ be go!, but who knows?);

Wikipedia has no mention of "go!";  I don't find reference with google or bing (other
than news generated by this thread);  However, McCabe did publish a paper on "go!"
(2004): http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~klc/annals.pdf

In fact, the paper states that 'Go!' is available on
http://sourceforge.net/projects/networkagent/, and was developed jointly with McCabe
and Clark.  The description is of 

"A group of systems for building network-oriented intelligent agents, consisting an
agent communications infrastructure, April - an agent construction programming
language, Go! - a logic programming language and DialoX - an XML-based user interface
engine".

I don't know if this domain specificity impacts go's stated general purpose systems
programming - but the sourceforge area has commits back in 2000.

Interesting!
Comment 82 by Peter.Lount, Nov 11, 2009
Francis McCabe, do you have a trademark with a (tm) or registered on your language
"Go!"? I see you have a book on it, very nice. A trademark though would likely settle
this matter in your favor especially if you decided to ask The Google for a bit of
their GOld that shines on GOogle for your letting them use Go as a name for their
language. Just a thought.

I really like Golang by the way Go(oogle) team since Go(ogle) seems to be very
similar and in the same category of languages as Erlang in the sense of servers and
clients communicating via pipes aka channels in Go(ogle) much like what happens in
Erlang. Both are characterized by coarse grained concurrency in the servers, although
in your examples you did show a very simple fine grained 100,000 unit spawn of
Go(ogle)routines flocking in a serial flow of chain linked servers. Nice.
Comment 83 by charles.majola, Nov 11, 2009
I fourth Issue 9
Comment 84 by charles.chmj, Nov 11, 2009
@82

Common law with regards to copyright, I don't think he needs a trademark.
Comment 85 by ethulin, Nov 11, 2009
5th for Issue 9/
Comment 86 by marko.kocic, Nov 11, 2009
It doesn't matter who has bigger user base, more money, better or more expensive
lawyers or something similar.

The issue is simple, the guy invented the language, put some effort on it, published
a book, and now BigCo! is trying to bully him to abandon it just because they
couldn't find out some name which is not taken.

It's just not fair.
Comment 87 by pra...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
In my opinion Google should rename their language
Comment 88 by Indag...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
I'm going to have blind faith in Google and just expect them to change the name 
...adding an apology to Mr Francis McCabe would be mighty nice too =D

hi reddit! ;)
Comment 89 by jamesda...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
#77: Why not start a company called "Google!" ?
Comment 90 by AxelSanner, Nov 11, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil then ... don't
Comment 91 by RoryHarvey, Nov 11, 2009
Google: Don't be evil and steal this guy's programming language name just because
you're bigger than him.
Comment 92 by thorsten.moeller.de, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for renaming Google "Go" to "Issue 9". This would prove that Google has a sense of 
humor and respect for others' ideas that came first (even the other did not register a 
trademark).
Comment 93 by achambers629, Nov 11, 2009
Google needs to sue this guy "fmccabe", shut him down and get his book revoked, he's
disrupting their services. Maybe they can find something in his gmail inbox or search
history to help them. I'm sure with their money they can find a technicality.
Comment 94 by vanbargw, Nov 11, 2009
@jsykari,

> May I humbly suggest "go2"?

Very good, but I would humbly suggest "go2c" since it is a C-like language (...and
say it fast ;-).

Comment 95 by charles.chmj, Nov 11, 2009
@94

NSFW hahahhaah
Comment 96 by charles.chmj, Nov 11, 2009
go++
Comment 97 by rhfixer, Nov 11, 2009
I like go2 and go2 variants, but I wouldn't use a language named after an
antipattern. Haha... :P

Issue 9 sounds pretty good. I also vote for Goopy
Comment 98 by cookiecaper, Nov 11, 2009
It'd be better to do it now and leave this little dude alone than to continue the 
ambiguity. Google's Go is only a day old, not too much to lose if they change the 
name now.

Also, maybe little guy has some money, or will find some money, and litigate, as he's 
already expressed his displeasure at the collision.

I think it's best for everyone if Google just mans up and makes the change now. In 
the end it will only generate more publicity for both Gos, and everyone will be 
happy, and the threat of unpleasant ramifications (including bad PR and possible 
litigation) vanishes. There is no abundance of documentation or online help that will 
be derailed right now if Google makes the change, though I'd reckon a language that's 
been around for 10 years has some. 

Fingers crossed that Google will do it, though I doubt they will.
Comment 99 by rnmboon, Nov 11, 2009
Maybe they could change it to "going" or "gone"?
Comment 100 by MEHColeman, Nov 11, 2009
Call it Goe! Spell it with an 'e'
Comment 101 by thorsten.moeller.de, Nov 11, 2009
yet another proposal: I9

short form of "issue 9", reflects the fact that it was published first in 2009, and 
hopefully does not clash with any other name
Comment 102 by YuviPanda, Nov 11, 2009
6th for Issue 9
Comment 103 by con...@tupalo.com, Nov 11, 2009
I also love 'Issue 9'. Awesome name.
Comment 104 by shaunchong93, Nov 11, 2009
I 8th Issue 9
Comment 105 by makc.the.great, Nov 11, 2009
Mike have a son called Pete. Andrew now wants to call his newborn Pete. Mike calls 
Andrew and says "hey, I thought about that 1st". Everybody: "yeah Andrew, he did, 
please use another name, such as IHAUTNF*M*PL"

@69 joke opportunity wasted ;)
Comment 106 by jleavitt, Nov 11, 2009
McCabe came first and Google should change the name.

Given the Google's awareness failure, perhaps Goof would be a good name.
Comment 107 by tetrabrick, Nov 11, 2009
how about "vamos" ?
Comment 108 by abouthors, Nov 11, 2009
@105 yes, but in your story, Andrew should use YAHDPUANSAI !
Comment 109 by hernancalabrese, Nov 11, 2009
How about "Hell" for a name? So we can make translators from Go, to Hell. Got it? "go
to hell" Ha! Sometimes I amaze myself... This clearly isn't one of those moments...

BTW: I'm with the original Go! author and I suggest "goat" as a new name for Google's Go
Comment 111 by jason.stoddard, Nov 11, 2009
Isse #9 is my vote!
Comment 112 by liamdon, Nov 11, 2009
I really think it would be best for Google to change the name - this is an issue
which could create a really bad vibe and put off the kind of early adopters Google
are hoping to reach for their language.
Comment 113 by cbueno81, Nov 11, 2009
I 10th, Issue 9 sounds good.

Comment 114 by bell017, Nov 11, 2009
And my axe!
Comment 115 by desjardinsmike, Nov 11, 2009
I once had an open source project with a "name collision" with another such project
(a twitter client named Bluebird).  Their team had a very talented designer, so we
made an arrangement that their team would contribute artwork to my team, and in
exchange, I changed the name of my project to Buzzbird.

Perhaps Google could make a similar arrangement with fmccabe?  Is there some
compensation or contribution that Google could make to Go! in exchange for him
changing the name of his language?
Comment 116 by shirish4you, Nov 11, 2009
yah.. "Issue 9" is really a great name.. :)
Comment 117 by thelandofsmeg, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9
Comment 118 by mark.ellul, Nov 11, 2009
i9

Comment 119 by bell017, Nov 11, 2009
Issue, object 9. Then, we can shorten it to io9 and start a whole new problem. (I was 
gonna lmgtfy for Google, but now their language is all the results, so that wouldn't be 
helpful.)
Comment 120 by cjaramilu, Nov 11, 2009
I propose "Gol", it is soccer goal in spanish 
Comment 121 by police.p...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
I'm with Mr. McCabe, he was there first and there's a hefty paper trail to prove it.

It really would make sense in every way for Google to suck it up and use "Golang." 
They won't even have to change their domain, unlike all the foreign trademark
disputes when they launched Gmail.
Comment 122 by Quafe.Quaffer, Nov 11, 2009
I support the OP. 

Also, it will be hell to use search engines to find tutorials for Go, as "go" is a
far too common word. 

Golang would allow far more efficient searches. 


Comment 123 by digitarald, Nov 11, 2009
If they are serious: Golang has my vote … if they have humor: Issue 9. But what a
waste, all those t-shirts.
Comment 124 by eric.marden, Nov 11, 2009
@yless42

you need to go farther back (like 1964 back) than EMCAScript to trace the history of
Closures in programming. Its actually a functional programming concept that JS adopted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closure_%28computer_science%29
Comment 125 by police.p...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
@122: Excellent point!  You'd think if anyone understood the value of a unique name
for people to type into a search engine, it'd be Google.
Comment 126 by MikeSyr, Nov 11, 2009
I'm a little surprised that Google did not do the proper research on this. I think it
would best for Google to change the name of their project.
Comment 127 by rnmboon, Nov 11, 2009
@122: you are right. If there is one thing that this situation proves then it must be
that "go" is not a very practical name.
Comment 128 by coldacid, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9 or Golang... Issue 9 is awesome, the language site is already golang.org...

I think I'd have to go for Golang, though, because it'd be less work to change over.
I'm lazy, sue me. :p
Comment 129 by tsch...@sbcglobal.net, Nov 11, 2009
Ideas:

Gogle
The language formally known as go (TLFKAG)
Go F*** Yourself!
Doh!
Go-on.org
Oog
Og
Magog
Wend

Yours for free.

Numeromancer
Comment 130 by vulgrin, Nov 11, 2009
I don't know if I can handle Google Go, it might be too advanced. I'm still working
in Logo.

bad da bum
Comment 131 by illobo, Nov 11, 2009
call it go++
Comment 132 by robintimothycard, Nov 11, 2009
YAGO

Yet another go
Comment 133 by prasad.silva, Nov 11, 2009
Vote for I9 :)
Comment 134 by stefan.midjich, Nov 11, 2009
How about calling it G. 

Otherwise i have no objections against informally calling it Go and formally calling
it Golang, they already have the domain for it. 
Comment 135 by clawjelly, Nov 11, 2009
There once was a language named "Go"
By Google it's made to help the Pro
But there's a claim the name
it sounds quite the same
as another fellow's lingo

This other lingo named "Go!"
"It was earlier" it's inventor says so.
"Why didn't you look
on a webpage or in my book,
it's even google search result two!"

"So Google, rename your thing!
Or in front of a judge you i bring!
Lots of users agree
it was disgraceful by thee
just be sorry and give me a ring!"

So the question arise
allthough google might despise
"what new name shall we be giving
to the lingo that's not yet living
and has not yet seen this world with it's own eyes?"

One fella proposed the name "Goo"
Which is similar to pythons clone "Boo"
But also this name is taken
and not yet forsaken
and honestly sounds close to "Poo".

Another said "Lango" is cool,
He would take such thing as a tool.
But a lingo named "Lango"
Only rhymes "Jango" or "Tango"
This is real, not Star Wars, you fool!

Lots of other names were called
some were boring, some others were bold
The question still remain
Will google act or refrain
from renaming it's lingo as told?

The remainder of my little piece
Is the ironic issue of this
Why did you, google miss
to google "go" before release
You would have known it's not your name, but his'!

(sorry, got a hangover)
Comment 136 by rnmboon, Nov 11, 2009
How about "goAwayFmccabeAnLeaveUsAlone"?

Otherwise I9 or GoLang would be good.
Comment 137 by cragos, Nov 11, 2009
Take a cue from OOo and go with GOOGo/Google Object?
Comment 138 by pubedude, Nov 11, 2009
How come I can't upvote comment#27?
Comment 139 by szocske, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for Issue9.
It would be ethical and funny in the near term, and would help connect the dots to
the plan 9 people who created it on the long run.
Replace the "go" keyword for issuing a new lightweight thread with "issue" for extra
karma.
Comment 140 by achambers629, Nov 11, 2009
Google needs to sue this guy "fmccabe", shut him down and get his book revoked, he's
disrupting their services. Maybe they can find something in his gmail inbox or search
history to help them. I'm sure with their money they can find a technicality.

Comment 141 by lonetwin, Nov 11, 2009
A similar thing happened with gmail which resulted in google not being able to use
the 'gmail' trademark and domainname in Germany. I too think google should be the one
changing the name.
Comment 142 by laminatorx, Nov 11, 2009
I like "Issue 9" distinctive and mysterious.
Two "go"s considered harmful.
Comment 143 by kevin.cullinane, Nov 11, 2009
Google should change
Comment 144 by Nesrovnal.Tomas, Nov 11, 2009
another one for Issue 9 ;)
Comment 145 by xophos, Nov 11, 2009
How about BING (Bing Is Not Go!) - but wait, that name could have other problems
coming ;-)
Comment 147 by carignan.boy, Nov 11, 2009
Agreed. Google should change the name of their language, as they "are not evil".
Comment 148 by jeremybubs, Nov 11, 2009
I nineteenth "Issue 9". It seems like a good choice, because it appears to be unique
enough that it won't be fighting over search results placing with anything else.

Comment 149 by w.a.barnhill, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for OP, Google should change the name.

It is also a great opportunity for Google to:
a) Point out that they practice what they preach via 'Do No Evil'
b) Get publicity for their language by holding a language naming contest

=Bill.Barnhill
Comment 150 by jsvduarte, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9 +1
Comment 151 by barnard.bob, Nov 11, 2009
This sums it up...
"If this language catches on, it'll be a 
nightmare to search for problems and solutions." <nikola.tepper>

abso-fu$%ing-lutely.  Or we'll have to qualify every search with "go programming 
language hello world".  Stupid.  Change it.

Comment 152 by glacasse, Nov 11, 2009
Google should change the "go" name.
Comment 153 by geoffreyvoss, Nov 11, 2009
"Go++" or "Issue 9"
Comment 154 by den...@drdesignz.com, Nov 11, 2009
Google Goo
Comment 155 by theartificed, Nov 11, 2009
Yet another vote for Issue9, no need to shorten it to I9, everyone would refer to it
by an abbreviation anyway.  Having a humorous or otherwise wacky back story certainly
cannot hurt a fledgling language, just look at Python.

(I have a funeral to go to today, Issue9 has put me in good spirits, I hope nobody
notices.)

Comment 157 by mich...@sun-sol.com, Nov 11, 2009
They should name the language "Evil--" (do no evil...).
Comment 158 by roblesjm, Nov 11, 2009
I like "issue 9" as codename and compiler cmd. It's very fast to write because in the 
QWERTY keyboard 'i' is under '9', so:

% i9 helloWorld.i9

BTW: the extension is rare.

Comment 159 by harnal.shubham, Nov 11, 2009
Google should now "Let Go".
Comment 160 by chris.crowder, Nov 11, 2009
Google should call it og!
Comment 161 by ropers, Nov 11, 2009
http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=9#c2 :
> If you google (sic) francis mccabe go you will find some references.
> I published the book on lulu.com

http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=9#c3 :
> I think Mr McCabe's language is called "Go!". Here's the Lulu link:
> http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/lets-go/641689
>> Lets Go!
>> by Francis McCabe 

http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=9#c9 :
> ah... Google should change the name...

So let me get this straight: 
Google should change the name of their programming language because of the grandiose
objections of a self-published "writer" whose unfortunate condition of borderline
functional illiteracy prevents him from appreciating the difference between terms
that merely sound and terms that actually *are* identical.
Yeah, let's do that. LET'S.

Second thought, no, let's not.
Comment 162 by emresaglam, Nov 11, 2009
Mr. McCabe is right, Google should change the language name. While changing the name,
please change the logo as well ;) 
Comment 163 by geekster, Nov 11, 2009
Change the name Google. Better do it fast. You're lucky this guy isn't an ass. If
this was say Microsoft and you wanted to launch "Google ASP!" you would have 100
angry lawyers demanding soooooooo much money.
Comment 164 by lucianferoiu, Nov 11, 2009
I9 or Issue9 or o9  (sloppy-written "Go" rotated by π)
Comment 165 by gavingrover, Nov 11, 2009
"golang"

But that's what they were going to call it anyway, isn't it?

Comment 167 by surabhirajan, Nov 11, 2009
How about G++ or Google C
Comment 168 by ludwik, Nov 11, 2009
"Issue9" is a great name. Or "Google I9".
Comment 169 by john.ohno, Nov 11, 2009
This argument is kind of nuts. You know, there are at least four programming
languages named D? Natural language is not a namespace -- naming conflicts are to be
expected and welcomed, since they serve a very important purpose.

I say, keep the naming conflict. Whichever language is used more will be used, and
the other will be forgotten; meanwhile, the confusion will allow cross-pollenation --
everyone searching for one will see the other.
Comment 170 by tomhaste, Nov 11, 2009
Some of these comments are plain silly. Heres another to join in;

If Go isnt the same as Go!;
Then Google isnt the same as Google!.

Comment 171 by hussien.alahmad, Nov 11, 2009
It is OK, it is going to Go Beta for a while anyway..
Comment 172 by NeilHorning, Nov 11, 2009
It's probably easier for Google to just pay a massive amount of money for the Name
than change all of their terminology to match a new one.  Don't you guys think? 
Comment 173 by Nic.Kassis, Nov 11, 2009
I know the original Go! language should get to keep it's name out of fairness but
what about renaming it to McLang "100 served!"? eh? eh? 


Comment 174 by lonetwin, Nov 11, 2009
I somehow are not convinced that google didn't even bother to google the name -- I
wonder how'd they react if someone came up with a language named 6g or even golang
for that matter.
Comment 175 by Tesseracter, Nov 11, 2009
go2 or Issue 9/I9 top the list for me. each is easier to search for, and has a 
playfulness about it.

seriously, why would anyone want to call their programming language such a simple word? 
its hellish enough to search for C, C++, D, ruby, and even java.
Comment 176 by pimlottc, Nov 11, 2009
Google Go -> Gogo
Comment 177 by sigbern, Nov 11, 2009
GoLive ? 
Comment 178 by cwmastin, Nov 11, 2009
1.  The board game "Go" should also be forced to change their name.  I suggest "Boring Beads"
2.  Dude, do you know what a trademark is?  If you apply for one, you have some legal grounds.  Otherwise you 
are SOL. Things like books, movies, and programming languages usually don't get these trademarks because we 
would quickly run out of words to call things.  Anyhow, post 169 says it best...read it and weep...
Comment 179 by snipes.brian, Nov 11, 2009
I like go2 but also think godo ( pronounced as in "go and do something" )would be 
good.
Comment 180 by johnleespider, Nov 11, 2009
What about "Steve"?
Comment 181 by ewan.grantham, Nov 11, 2009
Sigh... how about we start naming languages in some manner that makes this sort of
problem academic from the get go (pardon the pun)? While I appreciate the use of
humor and catchy phrases as much as the next person, perhaps it's time to take a key
from other areas of standardization and get a governing body that takes care of a
namespace and assigns formal names to the languages from there. Sort of like everyone
knows Firewire but also IEEE 1394. So each of these "Go" languages would have a ILS
(International Language Standard) ID, and then the "branding" would be separate. I'd
be happy to form such a committee if Google et al would be willing to use it.

Comment 182 by vance0725, Nov 11, 2009
How about

Go-Away

? ;-)

Comment 183 by jason.lee.jackson, Nov 11, 2009
Google says their moto is "Don't be evil".  It would seem evil to me to step on some
little guy that is trying to get his language out there.  Hey guys and girls at
Google, you could have, um, Googled for the name "Go" to see if it was already used.

Rename the new Google language to something other than "Go".

PS Mr. McCabe, IANAL but I believe you have what is know as "prior art".  If Google
won't do the right thing then take them to court.  Put up a donation page to cover
the costs.  I am sure you will do fine.  
Comment 184 by dailey.don, Nov 11, 2009
McCabe,  there is a simple way to handle this.   Just keep the name and let google
resolve the issue in your behalf.  You will get free hits and free advertisement.  
In fact, if you plan to promote this language or do anything else with it,  now would
be an excellent opportunity to expand on it in an aggressive way.  

I do not see this as a problem that you will have to worry about or try to solve. 
Keep in mind that if you really want to distinguish your language from others
including Google's,   they will want this even more since this is a business for them
and they will probably be reasonable about it if you are.  


Comment 185 by ibqftp, Nov 11, 2009
My first thought - how would I google for "google go system calls"?
The name should not only be searchable but findable - Dear Google.  

Mister McCabe could be happy to get free advertising -
and he should post to language blogs (programming languages that is)
that there could be some difference between Go! and go.

Where do you want to go today? 
(Did I step on MS feet by replacing go by go?)
Or did google hijack the phrase? Who knows. 

None the less, with all the 1-2-3 char names for prog. languages
goog, gogo, 9o, 9oo9 or 9o9o could be a better search token.

I like googlego - because "go" is going to be the brick (and mortar) language.
But other infringements might lurk there.
 
Comment 186 by samdharding, Nov 11, 2009
The irony of people planning suing tactics to sue google on a google hosted page
Comment 187 by foobard...@yahoo.com, Nov 11, 2009
Change it google.  You suck if you don't.

And don't get all academic snobbery on the guy about this either.  Just change it. 
You have a multi million dollar marketing budget, they can come up with SOMETHING.
Comment 188 by samdharding, Nov 11, 2009
I would love to see the google engine page have 
'GOOGLE - Get Over Our Great Language Epithet'
Comment 189 by brndnmtthws, Nov 11, 2009
You should rename it to "yet another language nobody cares about or needs because 
there are already several that do the job and have useful libraries".
Comment 190 by jevgenij.tsoi, Nov 11, 2009
+ 1 on I9 or "Issue 9" 
Comment 191 by samdharding, Nov 11, 2009
@189 people like you make IT stagnate
Comment 192 by Bro666, Nov 11, 2009
"G."? Pronounced "G Spot".
Comment 193 by j...@kirkconsulting.co.uk, Nov 11, 2009
Agreed: change it please!  It's a bad name anyway...
Comment 194 by AdNTraining, Nov 11, 2009
G0# :D
Comment 195 by developer.expert, Nov 11, 2009
find a 10 digit prime number, google it, and if there is no programming language with
that name use that number as name for the project.
Except for that nothing should change in this project as no one cares about the
*name* of yet another language. This is a fine product (or will be in short time) and
I never want to google for 'go' to find help when I programming on this language.
Comment 196 by rnmboon, Nov 11, 2009
Gopl. Google's own programming language.
Comment 197 by Keijser, Nov 11, 2009
"Issue 9 from Bell^WGoogle labs"
Comment 199 by kristoff...@live.se, Nov 11, 2009
2 820 000 000 irrelevant hits for "go". Choosing a more unique name would only yield 
advantages. I hate libraries/languages that make it hard to google. E.g. "C" 
or "D"...

I vote for "if" :D
Comment 200 by jsvduarte, Nov 11, 2009
Open Google Language
or OpenGL
Comment 201 by jason.thomas23, Nov 11, 2009
They should call it Narwhal.

Just saying.
Comment 202 by ben.gras.nl, Nov 11, 2009
someone rename their 'go' to 'come.'
Comment 203 by karuna.murti, Nov 11, 2009
i vote for "issue 9"
Comment 204 by karuna.murti, Nov 11, 2009
on second thought "Google Programming Language" aka GPL would be nice too
Comment 205 by ggreif, Nov 11, 2009
Just for reference, here is the Goo language site:
  http://people.csail.mit.edu/jrb/goo/
it is mentioned on wikipedia:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goo_%28programming_language%29
Comment 208 by utatane....@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
"Issue 9" sounds good. this reminds me of "Plan 9".
Comment 209 by samdharding, Nov 11, 2009
RODGORT - It 'goes' in the day
Comment 210 by abouthors, Nov 11, 2009
Or maybe they could just call it MY

But maybe it is already used for *MY* programming language, who knows ?
Comment 211 by websitebouwer, Nov 11, 2009
Whether it will become, it should NOT be as simple as go, goo, bo or something in
that sense, as it MUST BE SEARCHABLE, as mentioned before it should be explicit
enough that a theoretical error number plus name of the programming language should
give specific results.
Comment 212 by Mo6eeeB, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for Issue 9/I9 . "Go!" wouldn't work, because the only way I can think of audibly
pronouncing the "!" is "bang" and "Go bang" just sounds silly.

Or how about Gö? We can even have a simpe domain name - gö.org is not yet taken :) .

+1 against the notion of using short English words as programming language name.
Comment 213 by joshua.rickmar, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9 is a brilliant name for this language, if nothing more than for the Plan 9 reference.
Comment 214 by samdharding, Nov 11, 2009
Googlish, coz i hear adding ish to a name makes it a language.

(>'.')>

<('.'<)
Comment 215 by ithkuil, Nov 11, 2009
I don't care what Google or anyone else calls it, I'm going to call it Issue #9 or I9 
for short, from here on out.  
Comment 216 by zach.frazier, Nov 11, 2009
I like "Issue 9", and "Goggles"
Comment 217 by dakotahawkins, Nov 11, 2009
upvote for "Issue 9" or "ogle"
Comment 218 by atoth89, Nov 11, 2009
@ithkuil I'm going to call it 'The Go Programming Language' from now on.
Comment 219 by lozeno1982, Nov 11, 2009
To those who say "it's like C and C#" or "it's like C and C++" etc...
No, it's not the same case.

First, C# and C++ are called this way because they inherited their sintax from C and
wanted to express that kind of legacy;
Second, they are actually pronounced DIFFERENTLY: it's "See" (C), "See-plus-plus"
(C++) and "See-Sharp" (C#).

Now, how do you pronounce Go and Go! ? I read them both the same way: "Go". I can't
read a "!" to make a difference.
Comment 220 by samdharding, Nov 11, 2009
shout it when you say it. thatd be god damn awesome

:3
Comment 221 by skout23, Nov 11, 2009
I have been a fan of plan9 and limbo for years. I think it was a simple oversight on 
Google's part, and actually like the idea of just calling it "Issue 9", "i9" as 
well.
Comment 222 by keithsthompson, Nov 11, 2009
There's a Go! program on 99-bottles-of-beer.net; it's been there since 2005.
http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-go!-289.html
That site is an excellent place to check for existing language names.

Comment 223 by ithkuil, Nov 11, 2009
Issue #9 reminds me of D.
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Comment 224 by lumbergh, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9 reminds me of Plan 9, a hobby OS I'm fond of (this is good)

It also sounds more interesting/mysterious than "Go".
Comment 225 by hollowmyth, Nov 11, 2009
how about: Google No! (soup for you)
Comment 226 by tafkaks, Nov 11, 2009
Google should change the name to "Goto".
Comment 227 by octavian.prisacaru, Nov 11, 2009
ha. you actually think Google, the information technology juggernaut, will care that
you have a similarly named language? don't get me wrong, i wish they had the decency
to listen to people(you), but realistically, they won't. don't waste your time. 
Comment 228 by sp1d3rx, Nov 11, 2009
Change it to "Goo".
Comment 229 by zecamarada, Nov 11, 2009
votes["Issue 9"]++;
Comment 230 by macuser9214, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9
Comment 231 by jules.delisle, Nov 11, 2009
Do you realize by the time that I'm writing this message the number of persons being
aware of McCabe's programing language existence might have doubled (or even more) due
to all of this ongoing discussion? This is to be considered.

I recognize that you Mr. McCabe were there first with your programing language's
name, but by now it might just be a matter of considering if the cons of this
situation arising are outweighing the pros, because this situation sure has good
consequences such as increasing your language's attention - would I ever had to get
to know your language some day without this happening? Probably not.

If possible, you should try to get the best out of this situation which you had no
control on to start with and try to make it work to your advantage, but if
unsatisfied then you should seek legal advice.

I still disagree with Google's choice to name its language "Go".
Comment 232 by m1ch43l.cornelius, Nov 11, 2009
"going" - Go is not Go!
Comment 233 by pedromorgan, Nov 11, 2009
This thread is "go"ing to get long.
Comment 234 by evolution.genx, Nov 11, 2009
I'm glad that this guy is Redditor! Google, please rename it!
Comment 235 by peter.macdougall, Nov 11, 2009
I think Google should admit it's mistake and rename their language for several reasons.

1. to avoid confusion with a pre-existing language
2. to respect the work of another individual (I refer to those working on the google
language as individuals and the corporation itself as an "individual")
3. to settle issue 9 so that real work with their new language can progress

If they don't, it only proves that the people working on the Google language are
capable of acting stupidly even when corrected and their work cannot be trusted.

Google changing their language' name is a win-win situation, no matter what Google
has invested in what they thought was their idea already.

Comment 236 by email.addy, Nov 11, 2009
Naming the language Issue 9 is a very 2009 way of handling this. However, DHS might claim 
prior art. http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf
Comment 237 by accounthub, Nov 11, 2009
Here is my contribution to Googles new programming language.
GINE (GOOGLE IS NOT EVIL)
G Sharp

Comment 238 by amagha, Nov 11, 2009
Google should rename it--one of the earlier suggestions of something like GOOP is a 
good one.
Comment 239 by thehazard, Nov 11, 2009
I agree, Google should change the language's name - "Go" or "Go!" is clearly already 
taken. How would you feel if someone created a search engine called "Google!" and 
claimed it to be new ?
Comment 240 by sunrisetimes, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for issue 9. Just do it, google.
Comment 241 by ronaldwh...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
I will only take the time to learn this language if it is permanently renamed "Issue 
9". Who's with me?

When my grandkid comes to me and says "today in computer science class we learned Issue 
9" I want to be able to tell him that I was on the "Issue 9" thread from which it 
recieved its name. This is our legacy!
Comment 242 by sekour, Nov 11, 2009
I suggest: "INTERLAND"

Why "INTERLAND" ?
Because Internet it a new country, not just an international network, a new Geo, a new land 
with a new way (workframe) of thinking (hacking), with new people: YOU

We are an Internet developers (INTERLAND developpers) not africain or americain or australian 
or asian or europian developpers , we dev for the Internet, not for a country or a flag .... 
we dev for people all over the world, we are changing.

We are INTERLAND Devs , and we need GO! as an INTERLAND Language, a Smarter Languange for a 
Smarter planet.

let's realy change the world or let's create another world together, more Funny :) and less 
Stupid . let's wake up the real Humain, let's go! out of beta version , with intelligence, 
not wars and insecurity, destructions, let's fix those bugs (stupidities) together, we have 
to stop, debug and fix.

no more flags, One Land, INTERLAND.

Now i'll click on [save changes] button and send it :) hope that will wake us.
Comment 243 by andy.arvid, Nov 11, 2009
The Go! Source: http://homepage.mac.com/frankmccabe/FileSharing1.html
Comment 244 by PQSeibert, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9 with *.i9 as extensions, or go2.... both work for a name change.
Comment 245 by ryanmce, Nov 11, 2009
99th vote for "Issue 9". In fact, regardless on what Google does, I'm going to refer
to this language as "Issue 9" from now on: http://twitter.com/RyanMcE/status/5625076414

Google should follow suit.
Comment 246 by putin.laskinov, Nov 11, 2009
What bout GGG? Going Going Gone
Comment 247 by Agent.Anderson, Nov 11, 2009
Please do NOT choose an existing dictionary word. It makes searching laborious.
Comment 248 by bunshi, Nov 11, 2009
GOatse programing language: so open, it hurts.
Comment 250 by aleksey.v.korzun, Nov 11, 2009
Add another vote for Issue9.
Comment 251 by grimen, Nov 11, 2009
what about "G'thang"?
Comment 252 by 32amrak, Nov 11, 2009
Add my vote for Issue 9 or Issue9. I love Google, don't be evil!
Comment 253 by fedeflores, Nov 11, 2009
GOzalo Gooooooozalo
Comment 254 by scriptet, Nov 11, 2009
A language exists really when a compiler exists for this language. Is there a
compiler for Go! ? (too much weird characters)
In any case, since go is the name of an ancient game... anyone can play with it...
Comment 255 by insomniac8400, Nov 11, 2009
Go and Go Bang are as different as C and C Sharp.
Comment 256 by JamesEstill, Nov 11, 2009
If only there were some tool to search the internet for previously named programming languages...
Comment 257 by tsykoduk, Nov 11, 2009
YAVF issue 9
Comment 258 by invalidfunction, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9
Comment 259 by a...@golang.org, Nov 11, 2009
 Issue 55  has been merged into this issue.
Comment 260 by phimuskapsi, Nov 11, 2009
@bunshi - You win the internet, and owe me a new keyboard.

If mccabe language is Trademarked or copywritten this should be an open and shut case 
and google should change the name of the language.
Comment 261 by mark.g.siegel, Nov 11, 2009
Total Win: GSpot

"Once you've tried Gspot, you'll never want to stop"
Comment 262 by LAMapper, Nov 11, 2009
They definitely should change the name of the language, that is clear.  I have a
suggestion...

cgo  C + go; Computer Generated Observation; Computer Generated Oblivion or Computer
Generated Objects, or my favorite Computer Generated orthogonal; From Wikipedia "An
instruction set is said to be orthogonal if any instruction can use any register in
any addressing mode."

It doesn't hurt that cgo is an acronym for Cargo; considering all the discussion with
type, pretty much means that it can contain anything for flexibility...

As for "Go"; The Chinese have been playing Go for thousands of years (from Wikipedia
~ "Go originated in ancient China more than 2,500 years ago").  Easier to learn than
chess; yet strategies that can take a lifetime to master.  So the Original guy and
Google BOTH should change the names of their languages.  Obviously Google's Go is
last to the party.

In the long run I believe they (Google) will do the right thing!




Comment 263 by lgustavo, Nov 11, 2009
why not call it gone?
Comment 265 by walter.php, Nov 11, 2009
why not call it *MY* ?
Comment 266 by fredrik.vestermark, Nov 11, 2009
Why not simply name it Chrome?
Comment 267 by mbeihoffer, Nov 11, 2009
How about "Great Googly-Moogly"? 

Or even "G'day, mate!"?
Comment 269 by abouthors, Nov 11, 2009
By the way did you try the i9 compiler ? Issue 9 is really fast :)
Comment 271 by ronaldwh...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
I demand that this issue be marked as "Accepted"!
Comment 272 by tim.holmes, Nov 11, 2009
They should name it Bing!
Comment 273 by rhfixer, Nov 11, 2009
Also note that calling it "Google Issue 9" can be shortened to GI9, which when
rotated by pi it's still the same name!
Comment 274 by THM...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
Reddit support.
+1 for Issue 9 (and seeing a blue-chip eat it's hat over a lone guys with a language
with a different name (C vs. C++, vs. C# anyone)).
Comment 275 by karasoth, Nov 11, 2009
I suggest paying seth mcfarland for Giggity-Goo

that way you could totally sell it up to the kids
Comment 276 by fcanas, Nov 11, 2009
It's really quite amazing that this thread is 'issue 9'.

I9 really does seem to be the way to go.
Comment 277 by b4dtz.m4ru, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9++;

They just started a petition:

http://www.petitiononline.com/gglgoi9/petition.html
Comment 278 by hans.r.69, Nov 11, 2009
Why not simply "Goo"? or The "G" programming language (great name for a book, BTW :p). 
Or even you can name it "G spot" hahaha!.
Comment 279 by rafaeldx7, Nov 11, 2009
gmail...
gtalk...
gwhatever...

GLANG!!! ;)
Comment 280 by yasir.iec, Nov 11, 2009
how abt yag?.. yet another Go!.. lol...

Go! is perfect name for this language...
Mr. fmccabe do u hold a copyright for this name??...
Comment 281 by tap.drew, Nov 11, 2009
It should be renamed to it.  As in the pronoun 'it'.  'it' is even harder to search 
for than 'go' and, film references aside, would help it gain traction among 
technically illiterate managers.

"We should switch to 'it' because we do I.T. work and this language is called 'it'"
"But isn't Java..."
"Oh that's for coffee bars and stuff, not for serious I.I. work like 'it' - they 
even named it after what we do!"
Comment 282 by Megaxel, Nov 11, 2009
Signed the petition to change the name to Issue9. Even if it's legal for Google to
keep the name "go," that wouldn't make it ethical.
Comment 283 by Butters13, Nov 11, 2009
I, for one, am in favour of Oole. It comes from google without the gs, due to a
stupid broken keyboard I once had. Plus, the double os could be used for Object Oriented.
Comment 284 by BusinessHut, Nov 11, 2009
"Go" is a common word that can't be copyrighted.  

However, I agree that the name should be changed to something like GoLang.  
They already have the domain name.
Also, search results would be much more targeted on a search for "golang" than on a 
search for "go".

Comment 285 by pierrevm, Nov 11, 2009
@66 Rich Hickey seems to agree with me on this though.

From the horse's mouth on #clojure:

rhickey: "Google is sure squatting on some terms with Closure and Go"

That makes it not one but two irked language creators in a week and they don't say maybe. I thought it was just 
Brian Beckman  milking Rich for ideas to 'embrace and extend'.  Silly me.
Comment 286 by abdullahi.mohomed, Nov 11, 2009
Agree with @284.

GOOG already owns golang.com+.org, so why not take that name instead?

Much more fair.
Comment 287 by gkuhlman, Nov 11, 2009
GO! pick a different name and deal with it
Comment 288 by rayhogan, Nov 11, 2009
Agreed. Google should pick a different name.
Comment 289 by undingen, Nov 11, 2009
Google, be fair and change the name please.
The guy claims to have worked 10 years on this language.
How would you feel when this would have happened to you?

+1 for Issue9

Comment 290 by CScrudder, Nov 11, 2009
@BusinessHut

You know java was origionally called "Oak", but that was used so they changed it to
Java cause the developers like coffee.  I believe "Oak" is also a very common word. 
/face
Comment 291 by ludvig.ericson, Nov 11, 2009
Go! is taken. I just wanted to declare this, like about 200 people before me have, and the existence of this issue 
declares.

Also, up is not down.
Comment 292 by xitrium, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for Issue 9.  Go is a poor name no matter how you look at it.
Comment 293 by alishah.novin, Nov 11, 2009
I hate to go against the grain here, but C/C++/C# are all significantly different 
languages, and all three have very similar names. If you consider go vs. Go!, there's 
more difference between both names than there is between C and C# - that's based on 
string length, as well the fact that 'g' != 'G'
Comment 294 by shawn.rapp, Nov 11, 2009
no way!  Google's is "Go" and McCabe's is "Go!"   If McCabe doesn't like it he should 
pick a new name... one without a exclamation mark as I think that naming fad is the 
carrot red corduroy bell bottoms of the open source community.  I cringed trying 
Joomla! the first time just because of its name.
Comment 295 by jtsagata, Nov 11, 2009
I'am giving also  +1 for Issue 9.
Comment 297 by pierrevm, Nov 11, 2009
@296 The google! search engine is mine already! See comment #54.  :-)
Comment 298 by AEDane, Nov 11, 2009
Google should rename their language ogle.

google - go = ogle.

:)
Comment 299 by roblesjm, Nov 11, 2009
It's in our hands give a name to the Google's Programming Language.
For now, I use GoLang as term to refer it in my blog.
(pd: i made a simple test comparing python web server vs golang web server.
 http://bit.ly/2pzAFC )

Comment 300 by fmccabe, Nov 11, 2009
I am very grateful for the support I have received on this thread. It seems to have hit a nerve.

I want to make one particular point, some people have suggested that "I should be grateful" for the extra 
advertising. My response to that is that I was not actively looking for this advertising. It was not me who 
picked a clashing name.

I fully understand that it is possible that insufficient search was done before hand. However, when I picked 
the name Go! I did try to find out if anyone else was using it. In fact, I was kind of surprised that no one 
was!; since it was clearly a great name.

For those interested, Go! is a bi-lingual pun. My previous work focused on a language called April. In 
Japanese, the literal back-translation of April is "4th Month". Go is Japanese for 5.




Comment 301 by jonlem88, Nov 11, 2009
i think they should change it to GNU google's not unix lol
Comment 302 by ronaldwh...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
1) Somebody needs to get a Google Group moving for this growing Issue9 movement

2) I think the biggest reason everyone's taking offense is that Google made an open 
source language but kind of branded it as "Go"ogle and in their arrogance forgot to 
look up if anybody else used the "Go" name. This isn't about the name its about 
Google's attitude
Comment 303 by dvelez.j...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for Issue 9. Although i don't think Google should change Go's name. Citing again
the C/C++/C# thing. But if Google decides to change it, Issue 9 would be great. 
Comment 304 by stefano.dissegna, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for Issue 9. Leave the name to its owner.

Comment 306 by temotor, Nov 11, 2009
fmccabe, no one bought the book, right? Now you're trying to draw attention, but 
still no one is using Go! nor buying your book. Do you want to know a simple reason? 
Your language doesn't even have a website. The one-paragraph page that exists is hard 
to find.

You shouldn't be grateful for advertising because it doesn't help you. You should be 
ashamed that you start such topic. It all could have sense and you could keep honor 
if your language was alive and have real community.

And your <> operator sucks. Objectively.
Comment 307 by utunga, Nov 11, 2009
I feel really bad for Francis McCabe - how could Google make a mistake like this? At
the very least they should provide a clear disintermediation page and clarification
at the top of their page about the language "Go!" as oppposed "Go"
Comment 308 by ozahid, Nov 11, 2009
Did Google forget to use google?
Comment 309 by joelmartinez, Nov 11, 2009
I agree that this should be resolved in one way or another ... either google changes
the name of the language, or otherwise compensates the originator in some way to
essentially buy the rights for the name (either money or technology).
Comment 310 by monikkhare, Nov 11, 2009
@306 (temotor)
Just read what fmccabe posted. He said he would appreciate if you guys changed it so
that he doesn't have to change it. I am not sure whats the right thing to do here and
may be google should change the name. BUT, stop being such a jerk and refrain from
posting such comments again.
Comment 311 by brad.wr, Nov 11, 2009
please settle this on judge judy
Comment 312 by merkey88, Nov 11, 2009
This reminds me of an old court case where Yahoo! had to change their name to the
previously stated from Yahoo (with no exclamation). By contrast, your programming
language already has the exclamation point, so as long as Google does not use an
exclamation after Go (or go), there should be no reason to change.
Comment 313 by caseysanders, Nov 11, 2009
what about I9? Mccabe, you have my full support!  May the first GO! win
Comment 314 by alex.gottschalk, Nov 11, 2009
@242: how about INTERCAL# ?
Comment 315 by gary.haran, Nov 11, 2009
I heard FORTRAN was a good name for a programming language.
Comment 316 by Ruffi04, Nov 11, 2009
Yo, Google, I'm really happy for you and your new programming language. Imma let you
finish, but fmccabe already own the best programming language name of all time. ALL TIME!
Comment 317 by r.matthews.mail, Nov 11, 2009
YO REDDIT, WHATUP BITCHES?
Comment 318 by abraham.estrada, Nov 11, 2009
Google should change the name to: Issue9
Comment 319 by jules.delisle, Nov 11, 2009
@316
Haha good one!
Comment 320 by pohl.longsine, Nov 11, 2009
issue9--

lang9++

Comment 321 by roppert, Nov 11, 2009
Just name it C and be done with it...
Comment 322 by Shawn.M....@nasa.gov, Nov 11, 2009
Why not Goliath?

~X~
Comment 323 by stgngts, Nov 11, 2009
+ for issue9
Comment 324 by jqp...@yahoo.com, Nov 11, 2009
Considering Mr. McCabe's prior claim, the confusing similarity of the name, and the
degree to which I am impressed by Google's new language (not very much), I suggest
that "Go Fish!" might be an appropriate name.

Comment 325 by TRAyres, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9 is an awesome name.
I agree that the name should be changed, and Issue 9 is great because it references
the fact that Google didn't...well, Google the name.

+1 for Issue 9.
Comment 326 by es.beto, Nov 11, 2009
or I9.... or i900913 (igOOglE).... or....


hello reddit
Comment 327 by leccine, Nov 11, 2009
rename it to google go shortened as gg like good game in quake


Comment 328 by aarond12a, Nov 11, 2009
How about "El Goog"... Google backwards!
Comment 329 by shanethrasher, Nov 11, 2009
I too vote for "issue 9" Great idea!
Comment 330 by footrotdog, Nov 11, 2009
How about BASIC? I'm sure Bill Gates doesn't care anymore. 
Comment 331 by domingos.soares, Nov 11, 2009
My vote goes to "Issue #9"
Comment 332 by alverio, Nov 11, 2009
"issue 9" FTW!
Comment 333 by datakid, Nov 11, 2009
issue 9 +1 
Comment 334 by sesuncedu, Nov 11, 2009
Why not call google's language  µGo? Or Yugo?

(I'm assuming  this is the McCabe of Clark and McCabe)
Comment 335 by luis.fdo.gomez, Nov 11, 2009
My vote goes for Golang
Comment 336 by mmansoor, Nov 11, 2009
I would vote for Issue #9
Comment 337 by spiffistan, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9!
Comment 338 by bkeifer, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9++
Comment 339 by samgarfield, Nov 11, 2009
Change the name.  Call it Goo, and your first tutorial can be "Goo Foo!"
Comment 340 by javacode, Nov 11, 2009
I always thought that Feet has a nice ring to it.  I want to code in Feet.
Comment 341 by henrikb4, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9
Simple, easy and original.

Oh wait, it will clash with the millions of issue 9s in the world.
Comment 342 by javacode, Nov 11, 2009
I vote for the Weiqi Language or Wei Chi.
Comment 343 by autophile, Nov 11, 2009
I vote for either "Issue 9" or "eo" (I go, in Latin, and Latin never loses its cool).
Comment 344 by autophile, Nov 11, 2009
Or, here's a list of more names: Oogle, Oog, Og, Wowzers, Gog, Grr, Gurgle, Grump, Fumpt (because that's what 
the guy in the video kept calling "fmt"), McCabe.
Comment 345 by jonas.nordlund, Nov 11, 2009
I hope this can be settled so both parties are happy. :) As someone suggested,
perhaps purchasing the name rights could do? If I were in a position where I had a
minority language like this, I'd fully understand if Google hadn't discovered the
name usage and be reasonable. :)
Comment 346 by Ale...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
Since everybody is doing it, I might just as well join the bandwagon...

I vote for "Issue 9" not just because it sounds great, but because "Go" is difficult
to search for as evidenced by this language-name clash. While this is Google, and one
would think that such a problem could be easily alleviated, I still sometimes get
results for C++ when I search for something C-specific. So while the language is
still new, please, change it to something more unique!
Comment 347 by desktopman, Nov 11, 2009
The name should be easy to google. Golang is an excellent suggestion as someone else
pointed out, they're already using the domain.
Comment 348 by parkman47, Nov 11, 2009
I honestly think you deserve "Go!" and that "go" is too close.  Further, I believe
that google can "do better" than use "go" - in the sense that whatever option they
choose it will be successful, regardless of name - heck, "goo" sounds good to me...
and they could slogan it very easily
Comment 349 by br...@milton.com, Nov 11, 2009
I personally pointed out to the marketer who announced Office XP's name that "XP" 
was already taken as well (it's a medical condition whose sufferers cannot survive 
the light of day) http://www.xps.org/  They responded by naming Windows "XP" as 
well :-)  Good luck, Mr. McCabe.
Comment 350 by fmi...@halfpastzero.org, Nov 11, 2009
I think it should be called GooG for it's palindromic nature and it's abbreviation of 
the name Google.
Comment 351 by RNolan1, Nov 11, 2009
Google should change the name of their programming language..
Comment 352 by tikitdo, Nov 11, 2009
I too would like to hop on the i9 bandwagon. This would be easy to type, fun to 
discuss, and would immortalize the open nature of a project that is willing to change 
its name not to conflict with something much smaller.
Comment 353 by ortizfn, Nov 11, 2009
They should change the name, maybe to a new name that is SEO friendly.  Don't do evil
Google...  Call your language Gulag, GThang, G++, Goog, Giggles, what ever but don't
hijack some lonely programmer's trademark.
Comment 354 by will.whive, Nov 11, 2009
I like this "Issue 9" idea. It gives this language a charming name with lore behind
it. Turn this into a positive!
Comment 355 by spiffistan, Nov 11, 2009
Oh, and change the curly braces to do/end as an alternative. It's so hard to type them on international keyboards.
Comment 356 by jacques.fregault, Nov 11, 2009
!!I Support McCabe!!
Comment 357 by nunoarebelo, Nov 11, 2009
I think CROP would be a nice language name
Comment 358 by majorjeff, Nov 11, 2009
I'm sure it was an accident ...

Still, either settle for money or change it, that's the only non-evil way to go about
it.  Unleash a flock of law-raptors on this guy and the internets will never forgive you.


Comment 359 by joelpt, Nov 11, 2009
What's the big freaking deal. Mr. McCabe has today gained more publicity for his 
niche-size programming language than he's ever had before. Good enough.

If he really wants to promote his language, he should put up more than a single 
webpage on it. I mean seriously, I can't even find a single code sample from 'Go!'.

Given this, I cannot really consider 'Go!' to be a serious programming language -- 
that is, a language than anybody in their right mind would use for a real 
(professional) project. Even if the language itself is high quality, there's next to 
nothing in the way of docs, tutorials, reference programs written in it, etc.

Buck up, Mr. McCabe.
Comment 360 by matej.cepl, Nov 11, 2009
> Comment 189  by brndnmtthws, Today (6 hours ago)
> You should rename it to "yet another language nobody cares about or needs
> because  there are already several that do the job and have useful libraries".

That's addressed to Google or to Mr. McCabe? I think it would be more suited to the
former.
Comment 361 by DisSomnia, Nov 11, 2009
Indeed, the names are too similar to coexist in that way. I think McCabe is right and
Google should consider changing the name. After all Golang (Google language) seems OK
to me.
Comment 362 by fsjunior, Nov 11, 2009
Google should change the language name. I think Issue 9 is a good name. 

Also, as mentioned, going (Go is not Go!) and Go2 are great too.
Comment 363 by SeamusHC, Nov 11, 2009
First: Is Google infringing on some sort of IP? Copyright doesn't apply in cases
where the IP was reached independently.  So if Google didn't know about Go! (I assume
they didn't) then the original use isn't protected under copyright law.  I assume
that Go! it isn't a registered trademark of Mr. McCabe, so really Google has no legal
obligation to change the name of the language.

Second: Is Google morally obligated to change the name of their new language?  Not
really.  There are things with similar names all over the place, its not a problem. 
Google isn't trying to rip anyone off here.

Second: Should Google change the name of the language in my opinion? Yes!  Go is a
crappy name.  I like Issue 9, i9, or some other non-dictionary word.
Comment 364 by malfonso, Nov 11, 2009
I love "Issue 9" but not i9,  it recalls me to iMac, iPhone, iPoop and so...

GLang also is good.

Of course totally agree Google MUST change the name.

Don't be evil google.
Comment 365 by Ferry.A1, Nov 11, 2009
Google Mail
Google Search
Google Calendar
Google Maps
...
...
...
Google ProLang (or Google Programming Language)
Comment 366 by ricardovitorino00, Nov 11, 2009
CROP is the best name ever.
Comment 368 by michael.patrick09, Nov 11, 2009
I would name it Giggle.
Comment 370 by a.pianabianco, Nov 11, 2009
Goo-Gol or GooPro
Comment 371 by trevor.o, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9 would be an amazing name for a programming language. This thread is already
legendary. 
Comment 372 by thapamadan, Nov 11, 2009
As for the name "Goat", there will be lots of "Programmers who stare at Goats"
Comment 374 by stilllife, Nov 11, 2009
Another vote for Issue 9 -- someone even registered http://issuenine.com/ for you!
Comment 375 by knowledgeengine, Nov 11, 2009
@204 I second GPL (Google Programming Language)

If they want to just steamroll over someone, let's see them put some muscle into it.

Comment 376 by rumi.kg, Nov 11, 2009
nonono

They should name it:

golan
Comment 377 by troy.straszheim, Nov 11, 2009
They should rename it 'Francis' 
Comment 378 by clayjar, Nov 11, 2009
How about Googo?
Comment 379 by mark.hel...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
Another vote for 'Issue 9';  come on,  Google,  make it happen
Comment 380 by john.passaniti, Nov 11, 2009
And yet another vote for "Issue 9".  It's funny, it's cool, and it's mildly-meta. 
What's not to love?
Comment 381 by maxlittlemore, Nov 11, 2009
i9

simple and funny if you know the history
Comment 382 by samterrell, Nov 11, 2009
Come on, it's one of the most popular words in the English language. This argument is 
asinine. If Wikipedia can deal with the issue, I think we can all get along. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages#G

Comment 383 by paulotcsoares, Nov 11, 2009
Hey,

how about 'G-LANG' ?
Comment 384 by sharkeyzoic, Nov 11, 2009
I reckon it should be called goE.  Short for "Commit
#4a3f6bbb5f0c6021279ccb3c23558b3c480d995f" :-) 
http://code.google.com/p/go/source/detail?r=4a3f6bbb5f0c6021279ccb3c23558b3c480d995f

Actually, I quite like Ogle, as names go ...

Comment 385 by bryanmdixon, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for Issue 9, shortened to i9.


Mostly so,when my kid asks me years from now what "i9" means, I can stagger around 
drunkenly and retell the tale of how I posted in the original thread that helped name 
it. 
Comment 386 by carlosricardosantos, Nov 11, 2009
Wow! CROP really wins!
Comment 387 by fernandoacorreia, Nov 11, 2009
Plus 1 for i9

Comment 388 by pillsbury, Nov 11, 2009
They should take a more old school approach and call it GOOGOL. 
Comment 389 by senihr, Nov 11, 2009
At this point, OP would be better off changing "Go!" to "i9"; trade a stupid name for
a memed name any day.
Comment 390 by kuangc, Nov 11, 2009
think a lot more benefit in PR and goodwill in changing the name than not
Comment 391 by Andrew.Quincy, Nov 11, 2009
Now I have an Idea, what if it was changed to "Goo" or "Goog" That way it isn't Go so
it isn't that common, AND its different. Problem solved.

and also, Hi reddit
Comment 392 by jeffrey.huffman, Nov 11, 2009
Typical Google. (The new Microsoft.)
Comment 393 by DustinWelden, Nov 11, 2009
Another vote for renaming go to Issue 9, i9 as shorthand. It seems catchier anyway.
If not, Golang.
Comment 394 by ronnylawson, Nov 11, 2009
"Foogle", "Bargle", "Bazgle" and "Quuxle".
Comment 395 by SIGTSTP, Nov 11, 2009
Let's assume for one minute that you worked for a company with a market capitalization of $180 billion 
dollars, and your team developed a new programming language that was going to be released to the public. 
Everything needs a name, right? When selecting the name for this programming language, wouldn't one think 
that due diligence would include:

1) a simple Bing search for existing languages of the same name
2) a search of academic literature for programming languages of the same name

So someone screwed up...  This happens.  It's time for the Google team to find a new name, apologize, and at 
least give the perception that they do no evil.
Comment 396 by art.r.lee, Nov 11, 2009
I like GOOP as @28 mentioned, 

#40 @patla073 Erlang is a boring name. Goolang would be just as boring. 

Comment 397 by fankangsong, Nov 11, 2009
G# +1
Comment 398 by scottjbarr, Nov 11, 2009
How about, "Goolash"

"Goo" as in Google
"Lash" as in the backlash towards the original name :)

And Goulash is a yummy soup or stew :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goulash

Comment 399 by joel.witherspoon, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9 is inspired.
Comment 400 by supermick, Nov 11, 2009
Should we really care what and how companies (i.e. google) name their 
products/services?

Absolutely!

Here we're talking about 'Go!', 'Go', 'Lets Go' etc. which is the original.

Imagine if google chose any other names such as:
"Paris" or "Red Baron", or any other breach of original copyright.

The question that is begging - "How hard is it for them to come up with an 
alternative?" (so you're smarter than a 5th grader show could do it for them)

Do they know about "Go!" originally - you bet! Look at the amount of patents they 
file every week, someone/a dept. would make sure to be aware of existing patents in 
their space.

2 cents.

Comment 402 by astro...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
Given their compliance with different parts of the Plan 9 suite, I add my vote for 
Issue 9. Furthermore, Go is also a well-known game, which could potentially just 
aggravate the confusion, if the current name remains.
Comment 403 by joseph.stewart, Nov 11, 2009
You could change to "galang" and have a song to go with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BtkzaRgvUc
Comment 404 by geek.au, Nov 11, 2009
+1 for http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=9

Don't forget to vote for it at http://www.petitiononline.com/gglgoi9/
Comment 405 by 8F6E58EE, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9 :-)
Comment 406 by ronnylawson, Nov 11, 2009
foogle

Comment 407 by ronaldwh...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
So InformationWeek caught on to this thread: 
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/web_services/showArticle.jhtml?
articleID=221601351

And don't forget to @google with #issue9 on Twitter

I heard somebody's making Issue9 t-shirts? Is this true?
Comment 408 by alienisty, Nov 11, 2009
Why not just "9o" it looks like "go" but it's not ;)
Comment 409 by myleniums, Nov 11, 2009
Why not just G? G, G++, G#(?)
Comment 410 by grk101, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9
Comment 411 by beauchesne.nicolas, Nov 11, 2009
Issue 9  +1   

Comment 412 by the2012helpdesk, Nov 11, 2009
Hi,

How about Google GLOW (Google Language of Work)


RE: twitter @meetutkarsh u needed name suggestions. instead of Google Go try Google 
GLOW google language of work tweet me if you like it.GLOW is catchy 
Comment 413 by hoisie, Nov 11, 2009
Google go is a real programming language and the name shouldn't change. Your 'go!' 
language doesn't have any traction nor any community. Heck it doesn't even have a home 
page. Just because one of your research projects was called 'go!' doesn't mean that you 
can claim any kind of trademark on that name. 


Comment 415 by jorgefatta, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9 (maybe I9)...

would be a fantastic name.

However I´m pretty sure that "Issue9" will be used by anyone anyway... after this 
heavy issue.
Comment 416 by gattis, Nov 11, 2009
I have to say, Go was a pretty bad name to begin with.  It's totally an eye roller.  Google should just "go" with 
something else.
Comment 417 by cbueno81, Nov 11, 2009
Some smartass already registered issue9.org. I hope it redirect issue9.org domain to
golang.org like the person who registered issuenine.com
Comment 418 by aaroninmarketing, Nov 11, 2009
Name it "Visual Basic".  nobody uses it
Comment 419 by ken.krupa, Nov 11, 2009
I vote for gingo! ("go is not go!")
Comment 420 by logansbro, Nov 11, 2009
Searching for "ruby" info can be bad enough. I'll always search for i9 or golang regardless of what google 
does.

Comment 421 by pedro.santa, Nov 11, 2009
EPIC ISSUE! I really really REALLY think they should rename the language as CROP!
It's awesome!
Comment 422 by rali...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
Of course that searching for "Go!" doesn't return references for "Go!" of fmccabe,
because Google has ultra high page rank and has eaten almost all references for Go!.

I think you should change the name, it is not fairplay...
Comment 423 by abigail.irene, Nov 11, 2009
Google's motto of "Don't be evil." should be enough for them to make the right
choice.  Of course, now that they are giant
mega-corp-that-must-eat-children-to-survive nothing will come of this.  Why did I
even type this.  Futile.
Comment 424 by roman.go...@gmail.com, Nov 11, 2009
There is no need to change any names. Google will simply pay some money to this guy
and he will simply go away. It's nothing personal, it's just business.

Although I do agree that Go is a weak name for a language... I think we can safely
say that part of the experiment has been a failure so far...
Comment 425 by ticktock35, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9++
Comment 426 by walkingice0204, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9++;

Comment 427 by Anton.Aspgren, Nov 11, 2009
Just any variant of 'G' would be fine.
How about 'Gode'? Google Code.

'Glang' is also fine.. 'Gang'?
Comment 428 by andrevercetti, Nov 11, 2009
CROP sounds great.

I would go for that to.

< CROP >
Comment 429 by travisat, Nov 11, 2009
of course this being open source, somebody could keep a running fork called issue9 if 
Google doesn't choose this awesome name.
Comment 431 by abouthors, Nov 11, 2009
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/web_services/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=221601351
Comment 432 by durbin.james, Nov 11, 2009
I am shocked that Google, Google of all people, decided to call their language the unsearchable "Go".   WTF?  I 
mean, really, WTF?   That's in the TOP 50 MOST COMMON WORDS IN ENGLISH!!! [1].    At least the guy who 
started this thread had the sense to call his language the search friendly "Go!"  

They are totally on crack with this one.   I just can't believe they named a new language "Go".   I thought java, 
ruby, python, groovy, and C were difficult to create unique searches for, but "Go" brings this insanity to a 
whole new level.   

And not only is it a common word, it's already heavily overloaded.  Go the common verb?  GO as in Gene 
Ontology?  The popular Asian board game?   Why not call it "A" or "the" or "and" and make us spend ALL of our 
time trying to get decent search hits?   What a way to show contempt for everyone who will ever use your 
language.   Please change it now, while you can.    It might be slightly embarrassing to change it now, but 
people are going to be jeering you about this unsearchable name for all time if you don't. (*)

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_common_words_in_English

(*) And don't listen to your buddies at Google who probably say Goggle's semantic context dependent search 
is, or is going to be, so good that it will be able to know what you mean.  
Comment 433 by nagarajmailing, Nov 11, 2009
How about renaming as "Googl" GO Object Oriented Google's Language
Comment 434 by juansgaonach, Nov 11, 2009
this->Issue 9
Comment 435 by Batman.NSIT, Nov 11, 2009
google should call it Go-- :D
Comment 436 by iwannabeacowboy, Nov 11, 2009
Google should change its name.
Comment 437 by Geofwatson, Nov 11, 2009
Since the name GO is alreayd Gone why not call the google language Gone

It would be kinda cool.

"Get Gone!"
Sounds like something Timothy Leary would say which would instantly make it popular.

I'll sell the name rights for $5000 right now and a permanent credit in the manual.

Got might be good to
or Get

Get Gone, Get it?

I C'd
Now I'm Gone.








Comment 438 by Geofwatson, Nov 11, 2009
alright here are some mor eideas

How about Got?
a good slogan would be 
I Got it?

Or pull a Micorsoft and choose a name so ubiquitous that it's astounding

GOOD.

Slogans :
"Whatever it is, it's Good!"

"That a Good program!"
"No matter what you do it's Good!"

"Everyone knows it's Good!"

"Who's Bad? Good!"


I'll sell any of these names for $5000 and a permanent mention in the manual.
Use one of my slogans for advertising for $5000 and .05 % of the billings where it is
used although soemoene esle handles all the placements and bookings for the res tof
the standard fee.

(That's a deal McCain won't do.)

Comment 439 by Jayschwa, Nov 11, 2009
The easiest solution would be to change the official name to "golang". The domain 
doesn't have to change and "golang" will be a hell of a lot better for doing searches 
than just "go".
Comment 440 by turbonium, Nov 11, 2009
I think Goo is an acceptable name. I side with the original Go! developer and not
Google on this one.
Comment 441 by Geofwatson, Nov 11, 2009
More ad slogans for sale:
"Use Good for the best programming experience."
"Because Good is better than bad."
"If it isn't Good it's bad."
"It's so great it's Good!"
"Be Good programmers!"
"Good is better."


Comment 442 by Geofwatson, Nov 11, 2009
More ad slogans for sale for Gone as a name:

"Gone Programming"
"The best programs/programmers are Gone."

"Be Good or be Gone"
Comment 443 by castalias, Nov 11, 2009
throkmortonscribblemonger.  
Comment 444 by FJ.Whittle, Nov 11, 2009
At risk of being lost in the noise....

Google should change the name as a goodwill gesture, yes.  Also because as a language
name, "Go" sucks.  I like "Issue 9" just because, but "Golang" has merit (and also
registered domains).

However, there is no legal action that can be taken on this, as a title or name
*cannot* be copyrighted.
Comment 445 by genieprox, Nov 11, 2009
> Erlang - "Ericsson Language"

No.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agner_Krarup_Erlang
Comment 446 by mail2ranjith, Nov 11, 2009
Seems like google is not using their search engine...Otherwise they would have found
it earlier ;)
Comment 447 by nels.n.nelson, Nov 11, 2009
Change the name.  Win fans of fairness.
Comment 448 by cornelius.howl, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9++  ahahahha
Comment 449 by bbenson, Nov 11, 2009
OK I gotta pool going on when fmccabe gets a job offer from Google to resolve this
little issue.
Comment 451 by lonetwin, Nov 11, 2009
450 comments and 28 hours later and this (silly) issue is still in 'New' state, is
this how google intends to run their open source project ? Just make a decision and
be done with it already ! 

Comment 453 by billy3321, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9++ That's cool!
Comment 454 by abraham.estrada, Nov 11, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go!_%28programming_language%29
Comment 455 by Geofwatson, Nov 11, 2009
here's a great ad slogan for "Good"

"Do Good"
Comment 456 by harsesus, Nov 11, 2009
just call it GPL (Google Programming Language)... oh wait... crap

lol
Comment 458 by doubleminus, Nov 11, 2009
Google: the fair and right thing to do here is to change the name of your programming
language.

Someone beat you to it, fair and square.
Comment 459 by canerbalci, Nov 11, 2009
379009 or issue9
Comment 460 by david.Kistenmacher, Nov 11, 2009
Considering that everything becomes so much cooler with an umlaut, 
I hereby propose that Google rename its programming language to:

Gö!

Just göögle it if you don't believe me!
Comment 461 by ARPlynn, Nov 11, 2009
Cake is delicious, they should call the language that.
Comment 462 by ultramancool, Nov 11, 2009
Issue9 is definately the way to go here guys, but I doubt google will play nice with
it as this other language is virtually unheard of.
Comment 463 by juan.celtiberia, Nov 11, 2009
I agree Issue9 is definitely a great name, if google finally names it as Issue9, I
promise to learn and use it! helloWorld.i9 FTW!
Comment 464 by Earnest.Williams, Nov 11, 2009
The title or name doesn't have to be copyrighted, since it's a TRADEMARK issue.

/rolls eyes
Comment 465 by oli.kratzer, Nov 11, 2009
for me is go a tablegame .. the name rly isnt that clever ... but i like the logo lol 
Comment 466 by juvesito, Nov 11, 2009
g++ is better name for google codes
Comment 467 by fprietog, Nov 11, 2009
I vote for Issue9 as the new name of this languaje.
Comment 468 by ctcmbz, Nov 11, 2009
+1 - for google to change their name... 
Comment 469 by ptw007, Nov 11, 2009
It's not just me.  The help I received from so many company's , mostly Google. I just
wanted to make my system secure and clean and so many others (people/companies)
jointing in and we all worked as team to be where we are now.  Believe it or not, I
am really not a high tech guy. I worked in the Telecom. industry for 14 years but not
in this type of environment.  I just picked up quickly with the help of so many. SO,
I thank everyone for where we are today in trying to produce an internet is safe,
secure, and accurate as knowledge is so critical in today's world. Bad info leads to
so much confusion and misunderstanding and that is one of the reason's we are in a
world of so many problems.  General misunderstanding.  Knowledge/communications has
to be real and accurate.  
Comment 470 by cgronseth, Nov 11, 2009
My vote:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1379/88353454.png

Comment 471 by tedivm@tedivm.com, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9 sounds like a perfect name, and should leave everyone happy. I see no reason not to change it.
Comment 472 by akosma, Nov 12, 2009
I vote for Issue9 as well. Google *must* change the name of the language. Which, by the way, looks great.
Comment 473 by elliottcable, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9 it is.
Comment 474 by woodyhayday, Nov 12, 2009
Calling a language "issue" is stupid call it resolution9
Comment 475 by gons...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
Google *must* change the name of the language.
Comment 476 by zorionk, Nov 12, 2009
My vote for Issue9 (without space in order to google it better)
Comment 477 by radicsge, Nov 12, 2009
I would vote for oglego like shifting the chars.

Comment 478 by gotam...@start.no, Nov 12, 2009
Think of this... If Googles name was taken and used in any other context. Do you
think they would care? ... Offcourse they would care and they would drag you to court
and have you pay them a multi billion dollar compensation. It does not mather if the
name only looks like Google even. I remember there have been cases on this before, in
Norway aswell. We cant let Google think they can own wathever they like.

They may call it business. They may claim that "hey, GO as a name was not registered
trademark", but this is all aboute gentlemans behaviour.

There is only one option and this is that Google changes it names. If not, they will
in my eyes legitime for others to use Google or google look alike names wherever, and
whenever you like.

 
Comment 479 by samb...@mac.com, Nov 12, 2009
0% of 1 user recommends this project
Comment 480 by jorgemen, Nov 12, 2009
Well i think "gle" es a good name, let's see:
src.gle
go.gle

Comment 481 by sah2ed, Nov 12, 2009
I vote for Issue #9

You could also try:

G# or Gcode. 

Comment 482 by bruce.yao, Nov 12, 2009
I like Google Issue #9,GI9,just like CIA,it's cool.
Comment 483 by s_alexan...@list.ru, Nov 12, 2009
Some say that Google should have googleg for "go programming language".
I think they did google it, but decided to take it anyway
Comment 485 by giozde...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
My vote for Issue9, too.
But maybe G-9 inspired by K-9 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-9_%28Doctor_Who%29 
mascot - robotic dog. it will be friend with Android mascot. 

Comment 486 by sah2ed, Nov 12, 2009
Or perhaps:

gse = Go Standard Edition

gee = Go Entreprise Edition

gce = Go Concurrent Edition

or even better

dGPL = The Go Programming Language
Comment 488 by pinkish, Nov 12, 2009
G++ or Issue 9
Comment 489 by lorenzobivens, Nov 12, 2009
Issue 9 sounds even better than go
Plus it relates it to some cousin project I know of...

What would Glenda do?

Comment 491 by heavyhenning, Nov 12, 2009
go+iota
Comment 493 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
name it "noname"




Comment 494 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
well ... i seriously think that no need to change the name becoz it is going to 
benefit the world, this is for us only. we will be using this. "what is in the name?"
Comment 495 by inxsense, Nov 12, 2009
Google Programing Language 

GPL .. ohh.. wait!!!!
Comment 496 by vipper36, Nov 12, 2009
"Issue 9" or "Gonine"
Comment 497 by RoryHarvey, Nov 12, 2009
@494: If you're gonna quote Shakespeare, at least get it right.

It's not for "us", it's a matter of principal. Google shouldn't be allowed to stomp
all over a little guy just because they're bigger than them. Although I fear
fmccabe's downfall will be the moment he appended the "!" to "Go". I doubt anything
will come of this because technically "Go" and "Go!" are different...
Comment 498 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
I vote for "Issue 9". So the name is not only some marketing decision but has a kind 
of history. The name "Go" has same problems as say "Forth" in finding something 
useful with Google...

Comment 499 by hq4ever, Nov 12, 2009
#9 
I9
Issue 9

Those are all cool, and the coincidence is amazingly correct.
Google, this is a way to #9.
Comment 500 by vipper36, Nov 12, 2009
how about "Gonin" (誤認, misidentify) or "Gosan" (誤算, miscalculation) ?

Gonin:
go (issue) nine - e

Gosan:
go (五, five) + san (三, three) = 8
hmm...
Comment 501 by jetxee, Nov 12, 2009
The name should be changed. It's unfair, and it's confusing (try googling for Go).

Suggestions:

og (please, not Oz, Oz is already taken)
iota (as its the most visible feature)
c! (equally confusing, but (!) grows faster than (++), read as "See-bang")
weiqi (if you are so inclined to Go)
π or p (as in Pike, it's so perfect)
G (it's not used yet, according to Wikipedia, and it looks like C)

Goo programming language is taken, unfortunately.
Comment 502 by vipper36, Nov 12, 2009
I miscalculated
Comment 503 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
@497:
I think little guy would be happy, because people will be using the language 
called "Go" similar to the name of his language "Go!”. In this way his language 
could get the recognition in the world of programming languages. 

Cheers little guy!!
Comment 504 by framirezcrespo, Nov 12, 2009
Go! is dead, long live to Issue9.
Comment 505 by gbacca, Nov 12, 2009
What about these names?

2Go
Gou
UGO
Letgo
Wego
Comment 506 by kasperlitheater, Nov 12, 2009
Google should change the name. Not only because of the allready existing language:
Googling stuff for the Go language would be a nightmare. 

I vote for Issue 9, remembers me of the movie District 9 :)
Comment 507 by svippy, Nov 12, 2009
Wait wait.  Go is a combination of C and Python, right?  Well, sort of.  Why not call
it CPython?  I'm sure no one has done that before.
Comment 508 by germanpython, Nov 12, 2009
I vote for Issue 9 too =)
Comment 509 by matzuk, Nov 12, 2009
I also vote for "I9" that goes for "Issue9"
Comment 510 by jop.chlens, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9++ :^)
Comment 511 by jcarlos.norte, Nov 12, 2009
I really think that google should change the name, its not fair!!
Comment 512 by jcarlos.norte, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9++
Comment 513 by guillemsalas, Nov 12, 2009
One more for "Issue 9"
Comment 514 by xabiermuruaga, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9 would be a great name!!
Comment 515 by otger.ballester, Nov 12, 2009
I vote for Issue 9 too =)
Comment 516 by abouthors, Nov 12, 2009
I bet someone will create a new programming language called issue9 before the status
of this issue 9 changes !(still "New" after >500 comments and ~250 stars !)

Then, if this happens, can please someone open an issue on the future issue9 issue
tracker, saying that this name was already reserved for the name change of Google Go
Programming Language ? 

If possible, try to open this issue as the 9th...
Comment 517 by jordanrastrick, Nov 12, 2009
Google shouldn't change the name, and won't, nor will they give the OP anything for 
the "right" to use "his" name.

There is nothing evil about any of this. Someone once used an English word to refer 
to an obscure project no one has ever heard of and is hard to find references to, on 
which there is no trademark, that is of no commercial value, and has no audience or 
community to get confused by the name clash anyway?

But hey, all the stupid people on this thread can blather on about prior art and 
copyright and fairness until the cows come home. I'm sure they'll even express their 
anger at Google's satanic ways by boycotting their services! Or, not.

Issue 9 would be a cool name for what its worth. No doubt someone will invent such a 
language, if only in the form of a Go parody.
Comment 518 by natanae...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
Oh crap, that's a lot of comments. And I'm 8 minutes too late to get comment #512! :(

Seriously - forget about it.
Google had probably never heard about your lanugage before, or they just didn't care
because they found soo meny other names that already were taken so that they just
picked one they liked and hoped that there wouldn't be any chaos.

And I agree with everybody that has commented about the namespace bing filled up too
quickly if everybody just could pick a name and claim copyright of it (that's not how
the law works anyway), so that newcomers in 20 years from now would have to pick
something like GoGoGNow5003 to not violate a vunch of laws (or they would just
violate the "Go" copyright three times and the "Now" copyright once all at the same
time instead.)
Comment 519 by natanae...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
Oh ****, a bunch of new comments already? Then I'm 29 minutes too late!
Comment 520 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
        Hey guys this case is simple, fmccabe can use the name “Go!” and Google can 
use “Go” as both are different, I don’t know why this guy is so much worried about 
the name. Google is not stealing his work anyway. 

        Issue 9 is not a good name at all for the guys who worked hard to make such 
a powerful and high performing language. Will this be a justice to them? It is not 
matter of a big company or a small guy, this world run on mutual cooperation and 
understanding and both parties should understand this. 
Comment 521 by darkhorn, Nov 12, 2009
If they do not change the name it means that I have a right that I can write a new
language called "Google!".
Comment 522 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@520 Nothing is wrong with the name "Issue 9". It says ironically something about 
the naming of programming languages. That's just the kind of humor I would expect 
from some guys that develop a new programming language.
Comment 523 by hq4ever, Nov 12, 2009
What about go-nuts (same as the mailing list)?

Even though Issue 9 indeed has it's cool.
Comment 524 by dnunes, Nov 12, 2009
. . Just to notice you all that "i9" is trademark from Coca-Cola. It's an hidrotonic 
in Brazil.
. . Issue 9 FTW. "Diego Nunes" is good also, but my mother got it first, sorry.
Comment 525 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
@521:
There are differences in a language and a company. 
Comment 527 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
@522:
Every body should understand that there is no force (as far as this discussion looks 
about) on fmccabe  to change the name 
of his programming language, it is just the matter of agreement. 
	After putting your all efforts into the work of developing a programming 
language, suddenly somebody come and say “hey, you need to change the name of that 
programming language!”. I know it must be hurting.
Comment 529 by darkhorn, Nov 12, 2009
Consider "Yahoo" too? It is like "Yahoo!" but not.
Comment 530 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@526: Well, you say "it must be hurting". I'm unsure. What can be better than let 
users choose the name of this language? I'm personally very surprised by this 
language and I already started to use this for my next (small) project = a PDF 
reader. I've checked twice if there is everything I need and I found what I need 
with a nice syntax. Maybe the PNG-predictors (reading and writing) would be 
something interesting, but well, I can program this by myself. So, why this hurts 
the developers of this language if I think it should be renamed (for reasons that 
you can read in this issue)? Opponents of "Issue 9" or Go (without exclamation mark) 
will always refer back to issue no. 9. Since "Issue 9" is no bad name, I think it's 
better to rename it as far as possible. This gives a next time for the press to 
write something about it and even the author of Go! will benefit from it - even in 
future, since this story will be something like a myth, a nice story, everybody 
wants to read or hear about. Google can only win if they rename this nice thing.

Comment 531 by filip.hoffman, Nov 12, 2009
elgooG

:)

P.S. Google should change the name...
Comment 532 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
@530:
You say "I'm unsure" that tells the story. No body know what is in the developers' 
mind so better leave it on them. If they decide to rename it, then it is OK! :-)   
(well, seems another name ) , otherwise we must be agree on their dicision. 
Comment 533 by aliloko, Nov 12, 2009
"Issue 9" is a perfectly fitting name.
Comment 534 by sergiy.malikov, Nov 12, 2009
>> Issue 9 is not a good name at all for the guys
>> who worked hard to make such  a powerful and high performing language.

oh well, IMHO if they worked so hard they probably could also invest some time in
(sic) googling for a better language name!

I think nobody would have mercy for, say, a car manufacturer who suddenly rolls out a
Mercede$. And it's no different for Go.
Comment 535 by zorionk, Nov 12, 2009
I still vote for Issue9, but support 273 (Google Issue 9 -> GI9)
http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=9#c273

And I want to add: GI9 can be written as 619

I like Google9 (G9 - 69) as well, but I find that including the word "Issue" would 
be epic.
Comment 536 by marko.kocic, Nov 12, 2009
If Go and Go! are not the same, then I think I should register a new company called
Google! or Go!ogle ;)
Comment 537 by bieldantonio2, Nov 12, 2009
Google is evil a long time now....

Att

Uncle_Joseph
Comment 538 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
@536:
My dear friend there are C and C++ but no Google and Go!ogle, hope u understand :-)
Comment 539 by Initial.Dann, Nov 12, 2009
How about Google-Fu?
Or perhaps Goo-Fu?
Comment 540 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@532: What do you think about something that is "open"? Is it wise to not say an 
opinion because developers might not want it? I do think that "open" means to say 
the opinion. Well, it could be an unwise opinion. That risk has to be taken as it 
is. Important is to say what you think. You're right in that we need to hear the 
developers first and that they decide it at last stage. But well, I've installed in 
a ~/issue9/ directory yesterday (german time ;) ).

Comment 542 by wiz126, Nov 12, 2009
@ 541,
so If i write "hey there!" you will read it as 'hey there bang' out loud? didn't 
think so

I think google should rename their language.

/me smells a lawsuit
Comment 543 by xyroclast, Nov 12, 2009
@392 Apple is the new Microsoft.
Google is the new Skynet.
Comment 544 by ashish.afriend, Nov 12, 2009
@540:
Well friend you are right about meaning of "open" and that’s why we are here and 
increasing the count of the comments :-). And about your directory, after all it is 
on your computer! :-)

Enjoy!
Comment 546 by ayembee, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9 is good, but if it worked for Prince it could work for Google -- so I'm
plumping for "The Language Formerly Known As Go" (with the added benefit that the
logo could be some unpronounceable squiggly thing...)

Either way, the right thing to do is clearly to change the language name while it's
still new enough that you can do that easily. Repoint the homepage/repository to
whatever new name it ends up with, serach/replace the docs/source, job done. Warm
fuzzy feelings all round for Not Being Evil.
Comment 547 by Stooshie, Nov 12, 2009
Google should change the name.

Og!

anyone?
Comment 548 by machadogj, Nov 12, 2009
Please google, don't use G# as it is my blog! hahaha =P 
http://thegsharp.wordpress.com
Comment 549 by alexandre.conrad, Nov 12, 2009
POLL: http://www.doodle.com/yeqqgagt9728efkq
Comment 550 by karlanmitchell, Nov 12, 2009
Im gonnna have to vote for OG as the name too! 
Comment 551 by afafafh, Nov 12, 2009
I agree with Issue9, one word, so when you google it you're not getting mixed with 
other wrong search results that "Issue 9" would give you.

Try googling "Issue9".  It says "did you mean Issue 9?".  Now google Issue 9.  You're 
given thousands of magazines and newsletters.  

Words like Goo or Goop would give you thousands of wrong results.  Google should name 
it something easy to google.  
Comment 552 by asviraspossible, Nov 12, 2009
Vote for "Issue9"
Comment 553 by Andrew.Finch, Nov 12, 2009
I9 +1 Me too!
Comment 554 by miguel.neto.c, Nov 12, 2009
fmccabe, just be happy you'll probably be hired by google :p

jokes aside, i think they should change the name yeah.
Comment 555 by Safer.Aleph, Nov 12, 2009
GONG, which stands for GONG's outright not go!
Comment 556 by tonyantony, Nov 12, 2009
Why is this issue still not accepted?
Comment 558 by mgr.ssi, Nov 12, 2009
Nazis!  ... Godwin's Law enters to save the day :P
Comment 559 by roy.nard, Nov 12, 2009
Is this thread a poll regarding the new name for Google "Go"?

@fmccabe, hope this situation will resolve itself - It's the corporate megalomania not 
even considering researching the name before claiming it.
Comment 560 by abouthors, Nov 12, 2009
Any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending
effects will be unsuccessful.
Comment 561 by kasimir.knallkopf, Nov 12, 2009
Be fair, don't destroy a man's life work. Change the name of the language.
Comment 562 by ericjgruber, Nov 12, 2009
This man has a legitimate claim to sue to either a.) get Google to change it, or b.) pay 
money for damage and Google knows this.

I love Google, but this little incident made me lose a LOT of respect for them. Just 
change the name, Google.
Comment 563 by kikito, Nov 12, 2009
You can read the ! symbol in English. It is commonly pronounced as "Bang".

"Go Bang" vs "Go" is exactly the same difference as in "C Sharp" vs "C",
pronuntiation-wise.
Comment 564 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@Knallkopf: "Be fair" is always good.

DE: Aber manchmal knallen halt Köpfe gegeneinander. Suche dir mal einen schöneren 
Nick, wenn du schon Namensänderungen forderst und uns nur sagst, der aktuelle Name 
würde irgend ein Leben zerstören. Beweise das erstmal. Das Gegenteil ist der Fall. 
Der Name der Sprache sollte trotzdem geändert werden. Das wäre ein guter und vor 
allem schöner Zug von Google, mit dem die Sprache dann auch in gewisser Weise eine 
Geschichte bekommt, nämlich die, daß eine Gemeinschaft den Namen des "Dings" 
gefunden hat und das alles nicht nur ein von der Vermarktungsabteilung gemachter 
schlechter Abklatsch von Vertriebskonzepten für 1000 mal schon erfundene, letztlich 
sinnlose Computersprachen ist.

Comment 565 by pbgc2005, Nov 12, 2009
Google should change the name!

Just rename it g !
Comment 566 by mjbecze, Nov 12, 2009
"Issue 9" is awesome
Comment 567 by andrew.gamache, Nov 12, 2009
Unfortunately, when you snooze you loose mccabe. You didn't trademark the name, and you didn't make a big 
enough impact for anyone to care. If you want meritocratic respect I suggest you stay in the academic sector 
where projects like yours belong. Being a part of industry means following the rules of competition, and you 
failed at that.
Comment 568 by droussel, Nov 12, 2009
Come on Google , just change the name.  Don't be evil!
Comment 569 by oterosantos, Nov 12, 2009
Google should change the name. And Issue9 is OK for you guys that know where the name comes from, but it's 
silly when out of context.
Comment 570 by kombatant, Nov 12, 2009
And yet another +1 for i9.
Comment 571 by cbraid, Nov 12, 2009
here's the perfect name 'Google 17fe1882-86a2-492d-af95-da5e6c3ef717'
Comment 572 by a.dmitri, Nov 12, 2009
Guys, this has happened within the last 36 hours.  You act like Google found out about 
this months ago.  Calm down and give the PR department some time to do their jobs.
Comment 573 by soni...@gmx.net, Nov 12, 2009
Google, dont be foolish - the people will stand for McCabe. 
Comment 574 by shane.null, Nov 12, 2009
google do you want be known for stealing a name or coming up with your own?
Comment 575 by fewrangel, Nov 12, 2009
I agree with oterosantos! Issue9 is silly when out of context! I think just g would
be the perfect name.
Comment 576 by osmanscam, Nov 12, 2009
"Gone" can also be an alternative :))
Comment 577 by tang73, Nov 12, 2009
hmm..

i9!#++
Comment 578 by tang73, Nov 12, 2009
or

i9!Go
Comment 579 by kasimir.knallkopf, Nov 12, 2009
@helmwo:

Have you written a book and know how much of your personal life goes into something like that? Have you 
spent 10 years working on something? I understand that his work might have not had the impact that other 
languages had, but as conscientious human one might try not to deliberately stomp on other people and their 
work. Especially if it's as simple as naming something.

Btw. the name makes it impossible to search. So they could use this as a good excuse to change the name 
into something better. However, I doubt they will do it, because it would require admitting a mistake (didn't 
google for "go language") and by now they're also already emotionally attached to the name. 
Comment 580 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@575: Everything seems to be out of context if you do not have that needed context. 
"Go" is far more out of any context regarding programming languages than you can 
think of. As a "verb" that "go" means something like to move from point A to B in a 
specific way. Nice. But is a compiling language something that "moves"? Well there 
is a construct in Issue9 that starts with the keyword "go". But that alone is no 
reason to name this language. It's a very nice thing, well. It's not not that 
important to acceptance like to be honest. And - we want to be "experimental" with 
this language: why not change the now official name.

PS: "Issue9" is acceptable as new name as "Issue 9". I'd personally think that 
between "Issue" and "9" needs to be a half-space sized space... ;)

Comment 581 by davidpruitt, Nov 12, 2009
Google could call their language "Gool" :-)
Comment 582 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@579: I did typeset some books. This is just like writing it.

Comment 583 by emarshal, Nov 12, 2009
I see a lot of people arguing "well, it's perfectly legal for Google to do this".

They're right. It's not illegal. There's a reason people are upset on Mr. McCabe's
behalf, though, and it's because a social convention has been broken.

There's no law against being rude, but people will still form an impression of you
based on your behavior.

(Personally, I like "Issue 9"/i9 as a name. It's clever, searchable, gives a nod to
the Plan 9 roots, and wraps this issue up almost perfectly. But I expect that those
within Google won't budge on this, because substantial effort has already been put
into branding.)

Final request: will someone actually working on the project comment here, and either
close the issue as WontFix, or move it to Thinking?
Comment 584 by malonsosanchez, Nov 12, 2009
McCabe, you are right. Your language is published in several places. Google change
it. Go and Go! are very similar. 
Comment 585 by s.prashanth84, Nov 12, 2009
GOOGLE change the name...call it whatever  you want
Comment 586 by mehdi.rabah, Nov 12, 2009
I don't think an bug tracker works as a democracy but I also vote for i9!
Comment 587 by gozulin, Nov 12, 2009
vote.Issue9++;

I don't want to google go. And I'm a computer scientist so you better listen to me, 
google, or I will compute some science...

Science!

...I wish I was a veterinarian
Comment 588 by iamkake, Nov 12, 2009
if google doesnt change the name imma start using yahoo
Comment 589 by r0m1.bl, Nov 12, 2009
I totally agree, Issue9 would be much easier to search and is much cooler anyway.
"go" would make any quick search an epic quest.
Comment 590 by kayohf, Nov 12, 2009
It's hard now to change the name...
Comment 591 by jennyy8s, Nov 12, 2009
Google should change the name, oh and by the way don't use any name that is listed on
wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages

Comment 592 by jackysee, Nov 12, 2009
My friend said call it 'STOP'. Then we will have book like 'STOP programming'.
Comment 593 by cy...@highteq.net, Nov 12, 2009
i9 FTW!!!

It seems natural giving the fact, that the compiler and linker already use numbers
specifying the architecture (5g,6g,8g and 5l,6l,8l) and the object files default to a
number suffix (.6 for amd64 object files), so i9 would be THE choice as name
alternative, respecting the original go! author with referencing this issue as well
as being a nod to plan 9 (from outer space) :)

And it sounds and reads good.
Comment 594 by fddima, Nov 12, 2009
Yet another +1 for Issue9 / i9.
Comment 595 by bloodearnest, Nov 12, 2009
issue 9! yes
Comment 596 by cross.derek, Nov 12, 2009
weird...this is a unique insight of how today´s google will behave in a difficult 
situation like this which in my opinion seems very interesting to watch...  as a 
google long time user and advocate I hope it ends well (this kind of negative 
publicity can snowball and gain momentum and even confirm for some absurd conspiracy 
theories)  Google should take a position and act quickly by contacting  Francis 
McCabe..and he should also take a decision on what to do now after considering the 
fact that even by no fault of he is stuck in this situation. For me both languages 
have merits, but I still believe a solution can be reached somehow only if both 
parties take civilized aproach and choose win win. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
Comment 597 by bruno.borges, Nov 12, 2009
A +1 for Issue9
Comment 598 by ke...@getbusinessconfident.com, Nov 12, 2009
Google should stick with their name.  It's a common word, no matter how you 
accentuate it.  Lets say your programming language was called Stop!  Would you have 
an issue with all the worlds Stop Signs?  How about the green traffic lights which 
signify the word go?  If you wanted it to be yours badly enough, then you should've 
gotten a copyright.
Comment 599 by unik64, Nov 12, 2009
Please Ctrl-F for your argument before posting it to this page -- it is hideously long 
and VERY VERY repetitive.

Let's just call it 'Google Go', alright?  It's easier to explain anyway.
Comment 600 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@589: Did Google name a new traffic sign?
Comment 601 by christophelegros, Nov 12, 2009
Go STOP!
Comment 602 by geoffhilton, Nov 12, 2009
++Golang, ++Issue 9/i9;

Also, @444: You're wrong, that's what trademarks are for. Unfortunately the original 
name wasn't trademarked, but this is an issue of good faith, fortunately Google's motto 
should help here.

Bonus points to Google if they also pay for the trademark and donate it to fmccabe!
Comment 603 by paulorsbrito, Nov 12, 2009
The first thing I do when trying to name something is google for it! 
Comment 604 by leonardootto, Nov 12, 2009
I9 +1.
Issue9 is a good name, if change name.

Comment 605 by palaueb, Nov 12, 2009
Issue 9 is the key!!
Comment 606 by rob.ellis, Nov 12, 2009
Maybe they can give him some research funding to just "go" away.
Comment 608 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
google should not change the name because he is already serving the world right!
this guy should be happy and feeling lucky that google is giving the name "Go" to 
its new programming language which is the similar to his own language "Go!" 

I agree with @538 and @544. 

Yo!!
Comment 609 by iosachriost, Nov 12, 2009
I think google should call their language 'cum'.
Comment 610 by davidsinger0, Nov 12, 2009
I am not sure you have a strong case. First there is the trademark issue, second you
yourself said you used the term "Let's Go!" for a book which if you google is the
name of a very popular book series. Are you then infringing on their rights? Have a
look at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=lets+go&x=0&y=0
turns out Let's Go and Go are just popular. Its also a movie and an ancient game.


Comment 611 by s...@slnc.net, Nov 12, 2009
Google should change its name, they have more resources than Francis but Francis was
there before. +1
Comment 612 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
why not everybody should change the name to the words they suggesting, then they 
would be able to know how it feels to get the name changed in the midle of their age

Comment 613 by rafaelriedel, Nov 12, 2009
I'm thinking the Google is loosing the chance to name its language as "GooBar" :)
Comment 614 by burak.b.aydin, Nov 12, 2009
I9 +1
Comment 615 by destruction.uo, Nov 12, 2009
Google must change name.
Comment 616 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
if there is no copyright. google should not change the name!
Comment 617 by pbgcosta, Nov 12, 2009
If Google change the name, my favourites would be:

g
Goo
Googol (The company name Google is a misspelling of the word "Googol" made by founders 
Larry Page and Sergey Brin)
Comment 618 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
go Google go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Comment 619 by clay.lawrence, Nov 12, 2009
Do no evil ... change the name.
Comment 620 by seerixate, Nov 12, 2009
This isn't even a matter of copyright, coolboygreatone. This is a matter of what is 
right versus what is wrong. If it takes a copyright to stop you from doing something 
unfair and unjust then I have already learned much about you.
Comment 621 by dennis.v...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
OK, The big Goog should really do the right thing and change the name, my fav is:

Google GO2

Comment 622 by dennis.v...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
Come to think of it, the more I consider it the more I like:

Google GO2

. clear reference to programming :-)
. makes it clear that it's a Google effort
. lets the language retain goroutines and its internal structure...

Oh, well that's my suggestion.
Comment 623 by erik.m.oleary, Nov 12, 2009
No offense, but when you use such an unoriginal (and SHORT - two letter long) name, 
there is bound to be some overlap with other products.
Comment 624 by elthariel, Nov 12, 2009
I9 +1
Comment 625 by andy.bolstridge, Nov 12, 2009
I'm surprised no-one's thought of Gospel as an alternative name - Google's Open
Source Programming Language.

The name needs to be changed, and I love the idea of an worldwide poll (helps with
the marketing of the language too ;) )
Comment 626 by faramisimo, Nov 12, 2009
goat is a great name... i actually i wanted to get a goat to keep my lawn clean hahaha. Google couldn't do it. a goat would. 

Comment 627 by tovmeod, Nov 12, 2009
I9 +1
Comment 628 by msesma, Nov 12, 2009
My vote for g or g++
Comment 629 by tsujiku, Nov 12, 2009
I approve of Golang
Comment 630 by jevgenij.tsoi, Nov 12, 2009
@625
Not very secular. 
I thing there is enough "religion" in programming as is. 

Define "gospel":
- "an unquestionable truth a doctrine that is believed to be of great importance"
Comment 631 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
google don't change the name!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment 632 by trungtin.tts2008, Nov 12, 2009
Change Name!
Comment 633 by jihokim, Nov 12, 2009
The new language should be called McCabe, McCabe++, or McC++.
Comment 634 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
see fellows there are C++ and C# so why not Go and Go!

what is the problem with you guys?
Comment 635 by FJ.Whittle, Nov 12, 2009
@602, Apologies, I was a little terse.  But not wrong.

People are talking about copyright issues, but while copyright is implicit it does
not cover titles or names, which are solely the domain of trademark law.
As such, if there was any legal ground it would have to be on trademark issues, but
as there _is_ no trademark (and I doubt any IP office would allow a trademark for
something so simple), there is no possibility of successful litigation from either
side, even if one party was to file for and be granted a trademark at this stage.

Anyone predicting lawsuits needs to find a better spirit guide.  Much better
arguments are presented in this issue.
Comment 636 by cacopatane, Nov 12, 2009
I support fmccabe, Google should change the name.
Comment 637 by tahseen.ur.rehman, Nov 12, 2009
Google Change Language
Comment 638 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
@635:
Here copyright relates to the rights of the material in the books which person has 
written (as he mentioned).

Comment 639 by pmaitrot, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9! FTW!
Comment 640 by churruka, Nov 12, 2009
votes["Issue 9"]++;
Comment 641 by hack6500, Nov 12, 2009
support your "no evil" pledge google... go give the man a spot on the payroll!
Comment 642 by amsmota, Nov 12, 2009
"Issue 9" seems good...
Comment 643 by patriciomolina, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9 +1
Comment 644 by CrptOne, Nov 12, 2009
How about 
Goop
Gob
Ogle
Goggle
GooG
Gogogo
G0
Bingo
Yagoo
Microgoft
ごめん
Comment 645 by amsmota, Nov 12, 2009
Gosh...
Comment 646 by andrew.beals, Nov 12, 2009
At least make it something that it's possible to search for without running out of
search terms that had to be used to exclude other things, guys.
Comment 647 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
why not "Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" ????
Comment 648 by justinmeunier, Nov 12, 2009
g
Comment 649 by angrydill, Nov 12, 2009
I would vote for "golang" (that occurred to me before I even read this thread, based
on the domain they're already using).
Comment 650 by mdlatham, Nov 12, 2009
Google Goo or G++: no G#
Comment 651 by danuthaiduc, Nov 12, 2009
Issue 9 from Google Labs
Comment 652 by danuthaiduc, Nov 12, 2009
argh 197 was first
Comment 653 by transfinite.eof, Nov 12, 2009
Gotta be golang...
but Issue9 is pretty cool as well.
Comment 654 by roman.go...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
Nothing wrong with google using Go, just like nothing wrong with C++ using the C, nor
using it in C# by Microsoft. There is no confusion, and there is no real difficulty
in finding help for those languages.

I think this is a non-issue and is just an excuse for people to get into the
town-hall mentality of yelling out absurdities and not looking at the facts.

While I agree that Go is not the best name I have seen, it is a fine name, and
nothing wrong with it. These guys put a lot of work into the code with that name so
just stick with it. Go and Go! can co-exist, even if !Go comes out.
Comment 655 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@654: Fact is you are post #654. Congratulations.
What you say is _one_ opinion. You make suggestions about the mental state of the 
developers of this language. Yes, they've put a lot of work into the code. But much 
more programmer are to come to put much, much more code into the big repository that 
means software written with the language we discuss in Issue9!

Comment 656 by karamel.makiato, Nov 12, 2009
Why not call it BabyDontGo? I believe boy bands don't create programming languages, so there'll be no naming 
problems.. 
Comment 657 by aherrman, Nov 12, 2009
Another vote for "Issue9"
Comment 658 by noncognizant, Nov 12, 2009
i am disappointed with the front google has shown to the endeavoring international
programming community which it has built off of. First with this announced "Google
OS" which will use a lot of tools which have long been under development in the
GNU/Linux community but do not mention the community or its infrastructure at all,
and now this. I appreciate the opening of this language to help further develop it
and its use, but perhaps it could have been done with a bit more research first.
Comment 659 by xyborg, Nov 12, 2009
Change the name!
Comment 660 by mindodel, Nov 12, 2009
Hear Hear
Comment 661 by eliezer.moreno, Nov 12, 2009
how about Ah gogo! ?

jeje...
Comment 662 by Jacek.Kisynski, Nov 12, 2009
@161  by ropers -  he self-published his book, but he also published articles in
peer-reviewed journals and conferences. No reason to offend him.
Comment 663 by seerixate, Nov 12, 2009
I must disagree with you noncognizant. Google OS isn't even available yet. I would 
have to say the majority of people to actually know about Google's OS in development 
would know it is based on GNU/Linux tools. Once the OS is released I'm almost 
positive it will have words such as, "Based on GNU/Linux technology" etc.
Comment 664 by andyster, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9++ :)
Comment 665 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
I hope I get this #665:
I do think "Issue9" is a little bit better than "Issue 9" as voted in a previous 
post of mine.

Comment 667 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
g3+
Comment 668 by jorgeivory, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9 will be great :)

Comment 669 by cpu@chromium.org, Nov 12, 2009
What happened to Comment 666 ?
Comment 670 by helmwo, Nov 12, 2009
@669: deleted by someone...
Comment 671 by gherald, Nov 12, 2009
Be sure to pick a new name that's unique enough for web searching, if you want to
encourage help adoption.

Searching for "go hello world", "go sockets example", "go gtk", etc. is going to pull
up irrelevant stuff from other languages that just happen to have the word "go" on
the page.

Whereas, for example, with a more unique name like java's, searching "java hello
world", "java sockets example", "java gtk", etc. is quite helpful.

You'd think Google, of all places, would understand this.
Comment 672 by yumemi13, Nov 12, 2009
I would change Google's Go to GRINGO! for 'GRingo Is Not GO!' or 'Go pRogramming 
language Is Not GO!' Nice and simple :) Also I think it would be easy to search 
unless there is some gringo language ;)
Comment 673 by dequis, Nov 12, 2009
Google change the name! There are references of the language Go! 

And of course, apologize with the author.
Comment 674 by a.sumaran, Nov 12, 2009
Issue 9 +1!
or gUgly, whatever
Comment 675 by lwiklendt, Nov 12, 2009
All these comments about changing the name from Go to Go2, Goo, Go++, or Goto are ridiculous. First of all Go is as far away from Go! as Goto and Go++, that is, 1 
character. Go2 and Goo have the same number of characters as Go!, making Go even 
farther from Go! than those two.
Comment 676 by gnnoni, Nov 12, 2009
God!
Comment 677 by david.horat, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9 +1
Comment 678 by howe.steven, Nov 12, 2009
How about:
how about GOOPLE = Google Object Oriented Programming LanguagE?

Comment 679 by antoine.colin, Nov 12, 2009
Anything less common than 'go' would make it a LOT easier to google... I can't find
the grammar for that thing anywhere, maybe I should try Bing.
Comment 680 by jaimen...@hotmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
Lol, play fair.
Comment 681 by zorionk, Nov 12, 2009
Gowned!

No,  seriously, there are a lot of people claiming that "issue9" is more googleable
(myself in comments 476 and 535), but it is not. Have you tried it?

I9 is worse (Intel, iPhone...).

I still like Google Issue9 (GI9) or Issue9, but being honest, and after reading a lot
of these almost 700comments the most useful name for me is "GOLANG".

Let's wait, I'm sure Google will change the name ;-)
Comment 682 by malfonso, Nov 12, 2009
Have google published their comments regarding this?
Comment 683 by btilly, Nov 12, 2009
My vote is for go2 or godo.
Comment 684 by per.arneng, Nov 12, 2009
Issue 9 is a very cool name... and good a reference to its past and also to this
"issue" :-)

$ i9c helloworld.i9

Comment 685 by jag2kn, Nov 12, 2009
How about:
how about GOOGLE = Google Object Oriented Gaming LanguagE?
Comment 686 by dsquared, Nov 12, 2009
"Go" != "Go!" ;
Comment 687 by aderyn, Nov 12, 2009
I think GOLANG would be an excellent name, because it's easier to search for.
Regarding the name conflict: Who cares? It's just a name. Nobody cared about Go!
before, and it's unlikely that anyone ever will. I don't consider it especially evil
that google happend to chose a name that was taken by some obscure language that
nobody had ever heard of.
Comment 688 by mkotechno, Nov 12, 2009
Google has screwed a lot. I vote for:
"G programming language" (unique char names are associated with compiled languages) or
"Issue9" (to remember this mistake in humbly way)
Comment 689 by ravsobota, Nov 12, 2009
Issue 9 is awesome
Comment 690 by jasonjackson, Nov 12, 2009
who cares..  "show me the code!"
Comment 691 by radioactive.raindeer, Nov 12, 2009
As stated previously, the naming conflict aside, "Go" is a bad choice since it will be 
difficult to search for it. While naming it "Issue 9" would be a decision of epic 
awesomeness "golang" is at least a name that search engines will handle in a sane way.
Comment 693 by philip.johann.schwarz, Nov 12, 2009
Hi Frank,

I worked for you on Imperial College Prolog back in 1990. I had a great time. Would
like to know how you are doing. Do you have a twitter ID? Mine is @philip_schwarz.

Regards,

Philip Schwarz
Comment 694 by waltzngmatlda, Nov 12, 2009
If it's taken the guy 10 years to 'work' on it, something tells me it's not going to
really take off.

The matter of 'fairness' is a ridiculous argument; this is an unfair world.  

Google named their new coding 'Go'.  Deal with it.

Comment 695 by nathanollerenshaw, Nov 12, 2009
While everyone else is throwing out suggestions, I will throw out G. Won't need to
change any of the internals to rename stuff. Can still call goroutines, goroutines, etc.

But look, the lack of any response from google or the language designers/implementers
tell me that they are actually taking this seriously, they're just thinking about
what to do.

Let them come up with their own name, if they decide to change it. One of the perks
of writing your own language is that you get to name it. They must have liked "go",
so it's probably hard for them to walk away from it.

This has nothing to do with google. They're just the originators of the language.
They're not trying to be evil, or whatever. They just developed something cool,
didn't see the name taken on Wikipedia (the Go! entry was only added after this issue
was raised) and went with Go. Cut them some slack, people.
Comment 696 by weblivz, Nov 12, 2009
Rewrite their search stuff with it and call it BingGo :-)
Comment 697 by kikas.snai, Nov 12, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwQiQLqAKOA
Comment 698 by nicola.bizzoca, Nov 12, 2009
Go it'a a stupid name, people at Google are not sane
Comment 699 by taicomjp, Nov 12, 2009
GGlang
Comment 701 by jinahadam, Nov 12, 2009
call it gumble
Comment 702 by mattn.jp, Nov 12, 2009
Issue9++
Comment 703 by kenw03, Nov 12, 2009
Issue 9 is awesome!
Comment 704 by b4dtz.m4ru, Nov 12, 2009
Why there's no comment 666? WHAT IS HAPPENING AT GOOGLE?!
Comment 705 by Russell.Bruechert, Nov 12, 2009
What about Chanel GO! here in Oz? Should they change their name too?

Also WTF DID happen to 666?
Comment 706 by keganator, Nov 12, 2009
Well, the original language was called Go! ... I say "Not go" is more appropriate:  !Go.
Comment 707 by matsuo.takashi, Nov 12, 2009
Issue 9 is awesome name!
Maybe source file extension should be changed to .i9?
Comment 708 by raffy.s.ramirez, Nov 12, 2009
McCabe's language is go! which is not the same as Google's go.
If McCabe says Google's go infringes on go!, then what about c, c++ and c# ?
That would mean c++ by Stroustrop et al infringes on Dennis Ritchie's c and should
rename it.
Similarly, c# of Microsoft infringes on c and they should rename it.

Comment 709 by nuno27, Nov 12, 2009
wtf so many comments.

DIEDIEDIEIDIEISATANBANMYACCOUNT
Comment 710 by victor.carlsson, Nov 12, 2009
The omission of post 666 is most likely a programmer who did it for fun. Though this 
might be the only time the "feature" was triggered.

On the other hand, it could just be some random censoring :)

oh, btw, Issue9++
Comment 711 by phio.asia, Nov 12, 2009
How about "Qu", which means "Go" in Chinese :-)
Comment 712 by takashi316, Nov 12, 2009
Go (碁) is also referred to as Igo (囲碁).
The character 囲 (looks like a game board) means "to surround something"
and it represents the goal of the game briefly.

Igo ("I go", not iGO) is much more searchable than "Go", isn't it ?
Comment 713 by tovganesh, Nov 12, 2009
I think the best thing to do is just find a good name. Even Java (originally Oak) had
same problem. To find a good name though should be left to the creators, its their
baby ;-)

Btw, #711, #712, pretty irritating to see natural languages pop up here
some one else will suggest German or Russian (read why Chinese?)!  
Comment 714 by galinehorten, Nov 12, 2009
In fact, #712 is referring to Japanese. 


Comment 715 by Dear.Lyxia, Nov 12, 2009
Another +1 for Issue9. It's a great nod to the fact that they farked up and are
willing to take responsibility, if they choose that as a name.
Comment 716 by cnyegle, Nov 12, 2009
"Go" will cause many problems when trying to google for a help.
Comment 717 by tualatrix, Nov 12, 2009
I vote for "Issue 9" as the name!
Comment 718 by 5h3ll3x, Nov 12, 2009
#717 Yep, it seems to be a very coooool name if use "Issue 9" as the name. 
Comment 719 by matri.ning, Nov 12, 2009
Of course "Issue9" , it's so cool.
Comment 720 by chaos.pr...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
I think GOTO will be better~~ haha
Comment 721 by napoleonu, Nov 12, 2009
"Nine" will be wonderful
Comment 722 by oldrev, Nov 12, 2009
"Issue 9" is great!
Comment 723 by simmons.44, Nov 12, 2009
@708 it's a matter of principle and generally doing the right thing. "Issue 9" kicks 
ass as a name anyway.
Comment 724 by sundar22in, Nov 12, 2009
In the end its entirely up to Google to decide whether to change the name or not.
According to me, since the language Go! language owner does not own a trademark,
anyone can use the name Go. I appreciate the request of the author, its upto google
to decide. I believe its still fair if Google continues to use the name Go for its
programming language.

Comment 725 by lcgong, Nov 12, 2009
"Issue 9"! (abbr. i9)
Comment 726 by hays.barrett, Nov 12, 2009
Search for "go" on Google and you will find about 2,950,000,000 results.
Search for "issue9" and you get about 59,800 results.
issue9 is a far better name. If for nothing else it will be much easier to find
resources when searching google.
It's a badass name anyhow.
 
Comment 727 by moses.ma...@gmail.com, Nov 12, 2009
Gooo
Comment 728 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
Name it "Google Go version 1.0.0 build 1"

Now this dicussion in going in the wrong way!
Comment 729 by jyf1987, Nov 12, 2009
Goop Object Oriented Programming
Comment 730 by ufly123, Nov 12, 2009
"Issue 9" will be a nice name.
Comment 731 by hollykick, Nov 12, 2009
google should change the name ... i think its enough of google employee arrogance,
they think they are GOD's .. please come down to earth , you are humans.
Comment 732 by hollykick, Nov 12, 2009
I appreciate mc cabe for rising up to defend what is definitely his ... we are with
you mc cabe, well done, go ahead .. may the force be with you.
Comment 733 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
Google should not change the name ... the developer of the language may have the 
emotional attachments to the "Go" name, like we all have in our life towards 
something. If they would have behaved like GOD then you had not been able to post 
here my friend. 
Comment 734 by aionguideslist, Nov 12, 2009
I say Bingo -
Comment 735 by beyond0924, Nov 12, 2009
I think "elgoog" is an awsome name
Comment 736 by fengsongyan, Nov 12, 2009
gfw ---> go fun work
Comment 737 by lengocdinhpanelvn, Nov 12, 2009
i want this name is "GOODINH", Dinh's my name (:D). Vote for my name, Thanks!!
Comment 738 by morganix, Nov 12, 2009
I also like the name Issue 9. Google will lose a lot of respect in the tech community
if they don't change the name.
Comment 739 by oldrev, Nov 12, 2009
> gfw ---> go fun work

Hi5!
Comment 740 by sobi3ch, Nov 12, 2009
Hey I proposing new name for google language: Elgoog (google in reverse). What you think?
Comment 741 by victor.petrov, Nov 12, 2009
I too vote for 'golang' or 'i9' (it's shorter and looks better than Issue9).

The guy came up with the name. For those of you who brought the C -> C++ example:
your example isn't valid in this situation. C++ was actually a set of extensions to
the C language. Google's Go is NOT an extension to Go!, nor is Go! an extension to Go. 
I say rename the language. It's not that big of a deal. 

P.S.: And I don't think your &[3]int{1,2,3} is going to get you anywhere, either.
Have some common sense and pass references by value, like Java. Spare us the
pointers, will you? (my other half loves pointers though).
Comment 742 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
Google should stick to original name of the language "Go".
Don't change the name!
Comment 743 by lengocdinhpanelvn, Nov 12, 2009
Glang? How do u think about this name?
Comment 744 by coolboygreatone, Nov 12, 2009
@741: What about C++ and C# 

P.S. : Google should not change the name
Comment 745 by lengocdinhpanelvn, Nov 12, 2009
i dont like C#, i like G++.
Comment 746 by ubuntu.salvan, Nov 12, 2009
NoGo
Open No-go
Comment 747 by luoyonggang, Nov 13, 2009
灌水一把
Comment 748 by wangox, Nov 13, 2009
why gl
Comment 749 by e.guokb, Nov 13, 2009
#747

咱也來中文頂一下!
Comment 750 by calacode, Nov 13, 2009
Yup, change the name to Glang :-)

"Do no evil" - I think that is starting to fade Google!
Comment 751 by borderj, Nov 13, 2009
My vote goes for Golang
Comment 752 by patgarner, Nov 13, 2009
This is ridiculous.  There wouldn't be nearly as big a stink over this if this new language was by an independent 
individual who wasn't associated with Google.  No one is using Mr. McCabe's language and no one is likely to 
start using it in any great numbers anytime soon.  I'm sorry he was unable to gain any traction with his language, 
but there it is.  I vote for Google to keep the name "GO". 
Comment 753 by vsajko, Nov 13, 2009
Suggestion

google,go, issue9, year 2009

-> g09
Comment 754 by pengwei, Nov 13, 2009
Goo is a good name.
I support fmccabe.Google should change it's name.


Comment 755 by unpeople, Nov 13, 2009
[in Homer Simpson voice]: G'oh!
Comment 756 by seliber, Nov 13, 2009
My vote for "I9"
Comment 757 by pablolee.ml, Nov 13, 2009
The important point is that Mr. McCabe has the intangible assets: copyright, 
language named "go!", unregisterd distinctive sign which has earned by use (many 
years). I am spanish IP attorney and if Mr. McCabe needs any advices or assistance, 
please contact me. And recommend to Mr. McCabe register his sign in the USPTO and 
other national (Japanese) or European Offices.
Comment 758 by shwg.geng, Nov 13, 2009
goo would be nice but a japanese company(www.goo.jp) already took it.
1 vote for golang.
Comment 759 by coolboygreatone, Nov 13, 2009
I agree with @752.

Google should not change the name. This is the principle of the world that if 
somebody is progressive people always pull his leg. And we should overcome this 
mentality.

Don't Change the name!
Comment 760 by newptcai, Nov 13, 2009
I think Google should change the name.  Why not make a poll?  This will certainly
make go much more well know.
Comment 761 by lengocdinhpanelvn, Nov 13, 2009
I love Glang!!
Comment 762 by catharsi, Nov 13, 2009
I agree with Golang (ご覧, take a look) or Gang for short.
Comment 763 by coolboygreatone, Nov 13, 2009
This language is going to be in open source community so why bother about naming. 
Just take the advantage of the features of language. If changing the name of the 
language make the guy happy, then change it. But that won't change the reality, 
which is: this language is going to benefit the software developers. Thats it!.

Go Google Go!!!
Comment 764 by darasion, Nov 13, 2009
凑热闹给来点创意:
Goooooooooooooooo...
BingGo
BangGo
GoGoGo
Go++
Go#
GooGo
Good
GoodBye
GoodMorning
GoodYear 
...

Comment 765 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
Google, don't be evil. Change the name!

Comment 766 by daichigoto, Nov 13, 2009
It likes a story of JoJo as programming language. How about "JoJo"?
Comment 767 by Morgaine.Dinova, Nov 13, 2009
It was an extremely poor choice of name anyway.  As many people have pointed out,
common words like "go" are not easily searchable (and I don't just mean in Internet
search engines but everywhere).  It wasn't a helpful choice.

Since Google is clearly in the wrong on the name clash issue anyway (and derelict in
not checking first), they should demonstrate now that they're a nice friendly
community player, not an evil one, and take the opportunity to rename the language
with a more useful name.
Comment 768 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
What about "Plan name from other people space"?
Comment 769 by SmoothPorcupine, Nov 13, 2009
I have constructed a list of all the pros and cons of using all the reasonable names
listed thus far:

http://tinyurl.com/ygsm2gv

This is not a matter of ethics or morality or fair play, nor of Google's attitude,
influence, or motto, nor of searching difficulty or namespace pollution. No, this is
a matter of the name "Go" being completely stupid. It is quite fortunate that McCabe
used this name already and started this issue. Without that, the stupidity of the
name would go ignored. I, for one, am glad that the name is in a position of
reasonable change.

By this point, this "discussion" can only be sanely handled by a wiki document
concerning the matter. (Based on the above link or not.) This isn't even funny
anymore. The only value further comments have is to become another statistic in the
event, with my own comment being no exception. If all you have to post is *more* name
ideas that have already been stated, or to upvote "Issue 9" or any variation thereof,

PLEASE RECONSIDER ADDING YOUR COMMENT.
Comment 770 by r0wk1n, Nov 13, 2009
How about leaving any reference to the word "go" in the language, and just change
the official name of the language to "Golang"? And then people can just call it "Go"
for short.
Comment 771 by barrystaes, Nov 13, 2009
I agree with #22:
A more unique name has its benefits for Googling about the language. "Go" gives to much 
irrelevant stuff. (i understand google.com will eventually sort out what i want, but i 
do use other search apparatus occasionally) For example, use GoGo.
Comment 772 by coolboygreatone, Nov 13, 2009
@768: Everybody has right to say his word even if these are repeated words. This is 
the power of open source and of humanity. I am just waiting for the Google official 
reply. I hope it would not take time as it took Gmail to get out from beta!

Go Google Go!!!
Comment 773 by dkersten, Nov 13, 2009
Google need to change the name.
Comment 774 by amoiz.sh...@gmail.com, Nov 13, 2009
改成 Goo 吧

Change to Goo
Comment 775 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
To Smooth Porcupine: "This is not a matter of ethics or morality or fair play, nor of
Google's attitude". Because you said so? Because Google lawyers are going to say that?

No matter if the name is stupid or not. The matter is the name is alredy in use, and
people working for the bigger search engine on the planet being unable to search for
it, or disrespect the results because "my company is powerful enough to take
precedence" or something like that.

Comment 776 by oldherl, Nov 13, 2009
G, Goo, or something like that are more likely to be already used.
And it is not easy to google it.

So rename it to some other unique name.

Comment 777 by andre.van.schoubroeck, Nov 13, 2009
"Issue 9" sounds cool, but same as "go" too common for googeling imho.
Comment 778 by maciej.rutkowski, Nov 13, 2009
"Go9" would be nicely searchable at least. ;)
Comment 779 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
After reading proposal for Go! Wikipedia entry deletion, I'm starting to think that
the appropiate name for this project will be Goatse.

Comment 780 by yauvan.trivedi, Nov 13, 2009
Mr. maccabe, your "Go" language is used to create for Desktop application or web
based application or others ?
Comment 781 by SmoothPorcupine, Nov 13, 2009
@comment 772:
> I am just waiting for the Google official 
reply.

Yeah, and to help them and us alike, I'd like to make the thread that much shorter
instead of saying the same things over and over. I realize that it is human nature to
repeat the same task over and over and over again, and open source facilitates people
doing the same exact thing over and over and over again, but is it  *really*
necessary for all of SIX BILLION people to say the same exact thing? Wouldn't it be
far more effective and a lot easier to manage if people instead simply voted that
they all shared the same opinion?

Please people, follow the advice of the notice and simply upvote the issue if you
don't have anything more to contribute.
Comment 782 by mynamebackwards, Nov 13, 2009
Google, the right thing to do is change the name. It's not even up for debate.
Comment 783 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
I don't want to help you all to make a bad thing. Someone can stop that: Google Inc.

Comment 784 by simonecarella, Nov 13, 2009
CHANGE THAT NAME, dear GOOGLE!

Take RESPECT for those who EXISTS BEFORE YOU, DEAR GOOGLE.

You are not the king. Internet is OPEN AND FREE, YOU CAN'T BUY EVERYTHING, DEAR GOOGLE.


Comment 785 by purple.hexagon, Nov 13, 2009
There's no chance of defending as common word as go in things like trademarks. The 
only reason Google has to change the name is politeness.

More distinct names are more complex and less likely to capture mind space. Go has so 
much elegant simplicity than any proposed name choice I've seen above, it fits with 
my understanding of Google attitudes/ethos and the language objectives of minimising 
typing (except in the increase of types of Go language:).

I say stick to go. People are right, the other Go! will probably benefit from all the 
accidental exposure it gets, he might even sell some copies of his book on the back 
of it!
Comment 786 by kensai7, Nov 13, 2009
Mr. McCabe's language is "Go!". Google's language is "Go". If we accept C and C# as 
different languages, then why not Go and Go! as well?

Anyway, my idea is that Google shouldn't change the name and Mr. McCabe should be 
thankful for the *gratis* indirect publicity he got from the whole issue. Hell, I'm 
even considering buying his book now out of curiosity.

If nothing else works, then change the name to "GOlang" and forget about it.
Comment 787 by coolboygreatone, Nov 13, 2009
@785: You are right and in addition to this, Google can hire him to operate their 
typewriter.
Comment 788 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
"There's no chance of defending". So this is going to be a fight?

Comment 789 by dcsobral, Nov 13, 2009
I'm surprised no one has suggested "Goo", that I could see. :-)

Issue 9 is rather nice, to tell the truth.
Comment 790 by scheper, Nov 13, 2009
@785 

>> There's no chance of defending as common word as go in things like trademarks.

You mean like Windows, Apple or Sun?
Comment 791 by seppmeister, Nov 13, 2009
@789: comment 17.
You didn't look too long, did you?
Comment 792 by raym...@guildpresshq.com, Nov 13, 2009
Issue 9 would be the best name for this language. Not only does it "solve the problem" 
it is a nod to to McCabe, it is a unique name and I think it is pretty memorable.
Comment 793 by graf.anton, Nov 13, 2009
Use "golang", as this matches the website, "erlang", ...
The compiler is called 6g/8g anyways so its quite simmilar if "o" or "olang" is 
ommited.
I'm waiting for "aplang", "milang", ;-)
Comment 794 by dkamenetsky, Nov 13, 2009
Stealing an existing name is bad. Using a name that is not Googleable is even worse.
Programs for the game of Go (Weiki in Chinese, Baduk in Korean) had this problem for
years. The best way to search for them is to use something like "Computer Go", but
that doesn't always work.
Comment 796 by vexorian, Nov 13, 2009
It is retarded to say that google 'stole' the name. As you have mentioned, go is a
hard to search word.

Have you guys ever created a language? It is amazingly hard to come up with a name
that wasn't used already by an obscure language...

Also, "go programming language" is already working well at finding results.

Comment 797 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
Proposals for deleting Wikipedia entries, personal insults and attacks, attempts to
distract attention, allusions to lawyers... Nice, google, this thread is a great
illustration of the "Don't be evil" motto.
Comment 798 by vocalwing, Nov 13, 2009
what about "Goddess"?:)
Comment 799 by gui.lopes, Nov 13, 2009
Ohhh Come one... change de name quickly... It´s better than look very bad... This
news is spreading very quickly....

  I know this is not easy but, the google can do better than just copy someting... 


PS: Nobody will write: "The Go Programming Language" we are to lazy... And "Go" is
already used to in advertising of the VISA. 
Comment 800 by sunseraphic, Nov 13, 2009
I suggest that google use "poople" comes from popple, which looks like google 
and 'p' indicates Programming. 
Comment 801 by smallufo, Nov 13, 2009
I suggest split "Go" into GoSE , GoME , GoEE , Godroid , GoWT , Gobernate , Gopring ,
Golet , GoMX , GoBeans ...etc.
Comment 802 by Tu.Ronghai, Nov 13, 2009
Like Obama said "Vote for change". Google should build a website to  let us vote for
 a new name from all the  names listed here. We need the "Change We Can Believe
In".:P  I support Issue9 anyway!

Comment 803 by tchandy, Nov 13, 2009
"Issue 9"  :-)
Comment 804 by tsch...@sbcglobal.net, Nov 13, 2009
Godot! You need wait no longer!

Comment 807 by marcoc2, Nov 13, 2009
Go++
LanGo
Comment 808 by sniper111, Nov 13, 2009
I9o - Pronounced "I go" but written "I90" also for Issue 9/Issue go :D
Comment 809 by Juniper.3D, Nov 13, 2009
LOL! "Issue 9" is good idea! Google wants to be fun with this language, and this name
is funny too:)
Comment 810 by jasmine2...@netzero.com, Nov 13, 2009
Google's language would become an epic Internet meme, even if it didn't take off, if 
only they made a public announcement saying something to the effect of, "in the spirit 
of not being evil, and giving a nod to Mr. McCabe, we are changing the name and 
commemorating his language as well, by renaming our language to 'Issue9'" or something 
like that. Personally, as a programmer, if Google won't change the name, I won't use 
it. I think the programming community could easily force a name change - so I hereby 
propose a boycott of Google's language, unless they change the name! Who's with me?
Comment 811 by pregopresto, Nov 13, 2009
vote for "Issue 9" :-D
Comment 813 by coolboygreatone, Nov 13, 2009
@810: WTF! , you won't use a programming language because it has name you don't like.
I am damn sure you are not a programmer. I am with google in both cases (they change 
the name or not).
Comment 814 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
I can't stop using a programming language because his creators are acting like a
bunch of morons.

Comment 815 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
...but I can just not start using it.

Comment 816 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
...and stop trusting the company that suports them.
Comment 817 by angel.martinez.plaza, Nov 13, 2009
Why dont you force to change the ancient game of Go to the more programmer-friendly
name of black-and-white-beans?
Come on, its just a name who has been used since a long time ago. Who cares?

Comment 818 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
I even can consider using Bing ;-)
Comment 819 by pbgc2005, Nov 13, 2009
My first reaction when I saw this issue was to think that Google should change the 
name.

After thinking a little more and reading the posts here I really laugh when I see 
some folks saying that "when they want to name something that first thing they do is 
to google for it".

Guys... Google is a big company! with departments and many teams and lawyers, etc! 
Many people here talk like the name of the programming language that was a product fo 
the 20% rule of Google was chosen by Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin or Larry Page!
When a company like Google (OR ANY OTHER COMPANY, LIKE MINE!) wants to choose a name 
for something, the FIRST thing it checks is if there is a COPYRIGHT!

I still think It would be better if they change the name... but I don't think that 
they must! And don't think that "they are evil" if they don't! 
Comment 820 by helmwo, Nov 13, 2009
@817: black_and_white_beans or BlackAndWhiteBeans or blackAndWhiteBeans. A minus is 
a minus, you know?

Comment 821 by vivian2086, Nov 13, 2009
@778 :
i vote "go9"! it spells "google" in chinese :)
Comment 822 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
http://www.bing.com/search?q=google+is+evil&go=&form=QBLH&filt=all
1-10 of 22,700,000 results
}:)

Comment 823 by coolboygreatone, Nov 13, 2009
http://www.bing.com/search?q=google+is+good&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IE8SRC
"google is good"

ALL RESULTS  1-10 of 83,300,000 results


GO google Go!!!
Comment 825 by coolboygreatone, Nov 13, 2009
everybody is free to follow their choices, this is free world! 
otherwise how the Bing  will make money then :-)

Comment 826 by vijays.nitt, Nov 13, 2009
I vote
Comment 827 by genesh...@hotmail.com, Nov 13, 2009
Issue 9, I9, GI9, Go9
Comment 828 by julian.notfound, Nov 13, 2009
Forgot to put a link to slashdot discussion:
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/09/11/12/1256234/Google-Under-Fire-For-Calling-Their-Language-Go
Comment 829 by abouthors, Nov 13, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Go_server
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Go

Well, time for a change. They should rename their game ! 
Comment 830 by abouthors, Nov 13, 2009
I demand that this issue be marked as "Ignored"! That would be factual.

Comment 831 by chris.beaman, Nov 13, 2009
Guys, lay off of Francis McCabe. So what, he's a little-known programmer and self-
published writer. It doesn't mean you have to rip the guy for his opinions. 
Comment 832 by jasmine2...@netzero.com, Nov 13, 2009
@813 - Actually I have been programming for 25 years. I have used many tools and 
languages in that time - many of which are now dead. It is not an issue of not liking 
the name - it is an issue of choosing not to support something I believe is immoral. 
I can believe that Google didn't realize the name was already used, and the proper 
way to deal with that situation is to change it. "Not being evil" requires action - 
it is not something you can simply say. They need to change the name. There's 
hundreds of programming languages to choose from, and "Google GO" is actually nothing 
special - in fact, it has re-introduced some issues which I find particularly 
annoying, and dropped features which many developers like.
Comment 833 by gherald, Nov 13, 2009
Suggestion: GC

Short for "Google C" or "Go C"

It conflicts with the usual abbreviation for the garbage collector, but I don't think
that's such a big deal.


Other suggestion: GNC

Short for "Go's Not C" or "GNC's Not C" (like GNU for GNU's Not Unix)
Comment 834 by coolboygreatone, Nov 13, 2009
@832: I am also a software engineer but don’t have as much as experience you have. I 
think using word "Go" as a name of programming language is not at all immoral (even 
there is already a programming language called "Go!"). We must understand one thing 
that as a big boss (having many responsibilities on your shoulders ) you can't 
satisfy everybody, i.e. Google can't. About "Not being evil" tag, Google is already 
serving at their best and doing the right things. But of course as a company profit 
should be first. There are many programming languages exist, as a senior programmer 
you must know that every programming language has its purpose, it is built for a 
particular objective, no different case with "Google Go".

I support "Google Go"!
Comment 835 by aigarius, Nov 13, 2009
Issue 9 will eventually be shortened to i9 which will be confused with Intel chips.

How about take Japanese language go = 5, issue 9 = kyu

Just call it Kyu
Comment 837 by PQSeibert, Nov 13, 2009
lol 

Issue 9 kyu

so much go in there it defines win.
Comment 838 by sedra12, Nov 13, 2009
gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogle


Comment 839 by esko.luontola, Nov 13, 2009
"Go" is a bad name, because it is not googleable. Googling "Go" finds mostly references 
to Go-the-game and other things, but not Go-the-programming-language.

I vote for Golang. It rhymes well with Erlang.
Comment 840 by chuck.karish, Nov 13, 2009
The "Google is being evil!" reaction to the just-revealed go language makes a
mountain out of a mole hill.  This is a research project put together by three
developers who happen to work at Google.  They named the language themselves.

I agree with some previous posters that both "go" and "Go!" are dumb names.  "Go!" is
a tree in the forest of toy languages that fell a long time ago with no one to hear
it.   
Comment 841 by jasonjackson, Nov 13, 2009
To me, this seems like a typical example of BS politics interfering with the evolution 
of technology.  Who cares if it shares a name, seriously?  I would much rather the 
minds at Google spend the time on the technology then spend even one second on 
something as lame as changing a name, which in itself amounts to almost nothing in my 
opinion.  Sounds like most of the people here who care about the name, are also the 
kinds of people who put weight in things like business card titles and things like 
Linux certifications...   Ugh..
Comment 842 by uchuha, Nov 13, 2009
When somebody releases software under a free license, when they add to the base of
Free Software that is a gift.  Is a gift "evil" because it uses the same wrapping
paper that somebody else has used?  Not hardly.

I think it's just bizarre that Google or anybody else could give the world a gift
like a fully formed usable programming language and then have people call them evil
for having given it a potentially ambiguous name.
Comment 843 by davidsarah.hopwood, Nov 13, 2009
"Go" is a really terrible name for a programming language. Besides the two languages,
it has two common meanings in English (the verb and the name of the board game), and
it also means "naked" in Croatian, and "him" in Polish. This many existing meanings
is what you would expect for such a short word.

Anyway, who chooses a name for a programming language these days without googling
"<foo> programming language" to see if it's already taken? That's impolite at best;
even downright negligent.

The paper on the original Go! language, incidentally, is at
http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~klc/annals.pdf . It's a concurrent-logic dialect of Prolog
with asynchronous message passing and Hindley-Milner type inference.
Comment 844 by SmoothPorcupine, Nov 13, 2009
Comment #789, thanks for validating what I've been saying.

Comment #842, nice straw man. I know an ancient city that would have loved to look
their gift horse in the mouth.


IN 900 POSTS, WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY. TRUST ME.
Comment 845 by abdul.arfan, Nov 13, 2009
there is still 'went' and 'gone'
Comment 846 by pranman, Nov 13, 2009
I like Issue 9 but propose a new name: "GOOFY"
Someone can even come up with an expanded name for this acronym.

Comment 847 by koalay, Nov 13, 2009
Golang +1

The name now is way too confusing.
That would be hard to find any relating resource online.
(I know 100+ people stated the same thing above. I just couldn't help stating this
again.)
Comment 848 by yyeshua, Nov 13, 2009
I like "Issue 9" I'ts a good name :)
Comment 849 by txavier, Nov 13, 2009
Issue 9 +1


Comment 850 by dark.ryder, Nov 13, 2009
I realize I'm just another voice in the choir at this point, but "Issue 9" is simply
a *brilliant* name.  It's striking and lends itself well to branding and tool names.
Comment 851 by kuchaguangjie, Nov 14, 2009
how about "gogo" or "gogogo"?
It sounds funy ,but maybe it's fit.
Comment 852 by dailiang, Nov 14, 2009
But issue9.org had been taken long ago.
Comment 853 by julian.notfound, Nov 14, 2009
Yes, google is a big company, and big companies can't die because of mistakes. Say,
for example, Lehman Brothers.

Comment 854 by gill.naina, Nov 14, 2009
its name should be "google language", otherwise we need to write "google's 'go' 
lanuage"... thats probably not exact....
Comment 855 by xueyunlong, Nov 14, 2009
How about: "Easy" or "Ching"
In Chinese, it means"易经", which is a classic text and has been popular for more than 
5000 years in China.
Comment 856 by lukather7, Nov 14, 2009
GO-3
The language with accelaration.
The characters -3 means moving in ascii art.
Comment 857 by ak.kiet.le, Nov 14, 2009
How about taking "Go!" and turn it to "iGo"? 

OR "iGigity Gogity iGO Dumb" from "Cogito Ergo Sum"? "Ga-ga-ga GO! D'uh!!"
OR "BETA" LANG, you know, like most goog products are in "beta".
OR ALPHA LANG to foreshadow google's future dominance.
OR googlers don't just feel, googlers DO! (Kinda goes with Droid DOES.)
OR Mee Too? 
OR SLang (Second Language)
OR Go Fast! (Since compile time is almost instantaneous)
OR 

Bang! Language 
Bang! bang! GO! shot me down
Bang bang he shot me down
bang bang what an aweful sound
bang bang who will win the next round
bang bang what an awful sound
bang bang echoes through the wines 
bang bang who will win the next round

GOOgle Bang GOxgle Bang Gxxgle

bang bang ...

Comment 858 by tomyendall, Nov 14, 2009
GNG - GNG's Not Go!
Comment 859 by coolc188, Nov 14, 2009
do is the best@
Comment 860 by david.Kistenmacher, Nov 14, 2009
From Plan 9 to Issue 9. 
The failures just keep on coming.
Comment 861 by a7med505, Nov 14, 2009
I think that Google should change the name .
Comment 864 by bryant.adams, Nov 14, 2009
I realize Issue 9 has great inside-joke resonance... and if a language can't be named with an inside joke (C++) 
why name it at all... but I think it would be better if a proposed name put emphasis on some language 
feature, rather than meta-language issue.

For example, what about
Go<-
OR
<-Go

(Pronounced "Go arrow" or "Arrow Go" or... whatever else one wants to call the &lt;- for performing read/write 
from a channel)

Or, given the C-similar roots, one could make a MULTIPLE reference to "where some of this came from" and 
channels and the 'goroutine' operator with Arrow C:

<-C
Comment 865 by eztarun, Nov 14, 2009
Google should change the name... the do no evil company seems to be going over to the
dark side... 
and anyone involved with developing a programming language would be familiar with
theory and many other research and academic languages out there, they should have
known about go... I came across go studying for my programming languages class in
grad school...

a common man or programmer may not know it... but someone developing a language...
come on...
Comment 866 by eztarun, Nov 14, 2009
or in tradition of b, c, d just call it G.. or Go++ ..
Comment 867 by somebodydc691n, Nov 14, 2009
It should be named "OGC" or "Issue 9."
Comment 868 by nagarajat, Nov 14, 2009
Because Google named the language Go, the author of Go! is getting all these free
publicity. It's a something great to be happy about, not the opposite way! LOL
Comment 869 by shwg.geng, Nov 14, 2009
how about "omg"?
or "90"?
or "Gorz"?
Comment 870 by prinzdez...@googlemail.com, Nov 14, 2009
@306 (temotor)
dumb troll..
Comment 871 by wickus.martin, Nov 14, 2009
My vote's for Issue9 as well. The name itself is cool and recognizable and this could 
make awesome programming folklore. Not to mention the connection to Plan 9! I want the 
tshirt already :-)
Comment 872 by jimteeuwen, Nov 14, 2009
Issue 9  has a nice ring to it.
Golang also works for me.

As long as 'go' gets changed i'm happy though. Not because of the reason this thread
was started, but because 'go' is simply a horrible search term.
Comment 873 by paxcoder, Nov 14, 2009
Agreed with the renaming. I know it's inconvenient, but it's the right thing to do.
I'm sure Google will recover.
(I hear "G" is free now)
Comment 874 by jason.storm, Nov 14, 2009
I will sell you gOOP for.... *one million dollars*.

Wait wait come back... $100,000 and a six pack of Fresca.
Comment 875 by thaddee.tyl, Nov 14, 2009
This topic being probably the root of endless internal discussions, I suggest to all
bloggers, journalists and the like to use the name Golang instead of any other name.
If people talk about it differently, justice will come in happiness. I am already
writing a tutorial intended for french beginners that use this name.

Note: yes, Golang seems like the only name that internal google politics may accept,
although personally I would have fancied Gol.
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Comment 877 by SIGTSTP, Nov 14, 2009
It's certainly looking like nothing will come of this, which is unfortunate.

Google will just wait for the outcry to die down, and continue on the course. It's over.

Mad props to fmccabe for fighting the good fight. Perhaps a legal challenge will be
necessary as Google is obviously not publicly being responsive on this issue.
Comment 878 by Lucretia...@yahoo.co.uk, Nov 14, 2009
You're all idiots banging on about the name, what you to do is to stop trying make C
safe and use Ada instead, it is already by design, supports concurrency, has
realtime, has distributed capabilities, has OO, is readable (none of this i, j, k
bullshit), is scalable (from embedded to distributed - did I already mention that
already? - servers), you can define your data types to map memory exactly as you want
it to, keeps you out of the debugger (most of the time if the app is designed and not
slapped together like most C/C++ code is - blame management there), etc. Just a
thought, eh Google!?

Comment 879 by shengqi542, Nov 14, 2009
I think "Gopher" is also a good name!
Comment 880 by ryebrye, Nov 14, 2009
Can this topic be changed from status "New" to status "Bikeshed"?
Comment 881 by juande...@gmail.com, Nov 14, 2009
Ga++ > Ga2 > Gaga
Comment 883 by frank.b.watts, Nov 14, 2009
I'm sure that you feel hurt, ripped-off, etc that Google chose to use the same word 
for their language that you chose.  Don't you recognize that titles are often 
recycled.  There are often dozens of books with the same title, and if you look in 
the IMDB you will see that movie names are frequently recycled for completly 
unrelated films or TV shows.

The law provides a mechanism if you want to protect a name.  It's called trademark.  
You chose not to do that with your language.  You could have, but in effect by not 
trademarking it you were saying that you didn't mind if someone else also used the 
name for a computer language.

Now, after the fact, you've changed you mind, and do want the title to apply to your 
language only.  Unfortunately, you can't begin to see it this way.
Comment 884 by jhuangjiahua, Nov 15, 2009
I agree it should be renamed "Issue 9"
Comment 885 by shaunchong93, Nov 15, 2009
Over 800 people so far agree with this, why isnt the author of google go even 
acknowledging this? Issue 9 is just too win. i9 as a compiler command and file 
extension is just so easy to type on a QWERTY keyboard. PLEASE Google, consider naming 
the language Issue 9!
Comment 886 by sunhuanzxc, Nov 15, 2009
Issue 9 is a very exciting name ,but it's not serious,and makes you think bugs and The 
District 9.

I think "G"or "el" sounds better.
Comment 887 by ryniek90, Nov 15, 2009
Should be renamed. 
Comment 888 by mdshort, Nov 15, 2009
Issue 9 sounds like a much better name than Go. This thread brings back terrible 
memories when searching google for ambiguous terms...

Comment 889 by Robert.Jay.Gould, Nov 15, 2009
Issue 9 is an awesome name, love it!, Way better than Go!
Although Gordian, as in the Gordian Knot, is kind of nice.
Comment 890 by Robert.Jay.Gould, Nov 15, 2009
If Google's Language is open source, as it is, I guess someone could just derive a new  
language from the Go implementation and call it Issue9. I mean we have Mono which is C# 
on Unix. Maybe someone wants to port Go to windows and call it Issue9...

  
Comment 891 by wrolufsen, Nov 15, 2009
My vote is for Go@, pronounced like 'goat'.
Comment 892 by vexorian, Nov 15, 2009
Enter your commentsMy god it is the second time in the day I see the word 'unix'
being used as if anybody was still using unix... all we have is unix clones (that are
much better than it) . Let's begin calling them *n*x* or even better, specify: Linux,
Solaris, freeBSD, go ahead!

>Nice, google, this thread is a great
>illustration of the "Don't be evil" motto.
>

Why does every google-related have to bring a "don't be evil" skeptic to say "I told
U SO!"?  Honestly, that's old. Very old, get a new thing to talk about. BTW, I don't
see any post from a google representative in here.

hmnn. I do hope fmccabe wins. If "Go!" can beat "Go" in a lawsuit so will "Bjarne
Stroustrup" be able to sue MS and get them to rename C# to "Gibbberish" and thus they
will stop leeching on the C name!. Then the C guys will sue "Bjarne Stroustrup" and
also bring a lot of positive news for everyone.

Comment 893 by f.oliveira.1989, Nov 15, 2009
'Issue9'... that is good!
Comment 894 by zaphod69, Nov 15, 2009
Issue9   In my opinion.
Comment 895 by julian.notfound, Nov 15, 2009
#892 "I don't see any post from a google representative in here." That is the problem.

Comment 896 by julian.notfound, Nov 15, 2009
BTW I took a look at some golang documents and I'd like better Modula-2 or Ada...

...or even Cobol }:)

Comment 897 by mjsabby, Nov 15, 2009
+1 for Rename, I'd say file a lawsuit Mr. Fab.
Comment 898 by dvedvick, Nov 15, 2009
I vote for "Issue9".  Sounds badass.
Comment 899 by Y.Smirnov, Nov 15, 2009
google, please change the name. Justice for all!
Comment 900 by m.m.makarov, Nov 15, 2009
Issue9 +1
Comment 901 by Dmitry.Skiba, Nov 15, 2009
My vote for Issue9. Nice and unusual name. And moreover, this name automatically
justifies any future issues with the language :)
Comment 902 by killme2008, Nov 15, 2009
what about bingo?
Comment 903 by freewiz...@gmail.com, Nov 15, 2009
The name "Issue 9" rocks
Comment 904 by coolboygreatone, Nov 15, 2009
I don’t know what the matter with people out here is. Why they keep suggesting 
stupid names. Google can use “Go” word as a name of the programming language, which 
is damn true. Now it depends on them, if they try to be holy soul and change the 
name or simply ignore Mr. Fab. Try to understand that in any case people will get 
benefit out of this “Google Go” programming language.
Comment 905 by Qee.Sun, Nov 15, 2009
:) I can recommend a cheap lawyer.
Comment 906 by noufos, Nov 15, 2009
Please, Google, make us happy! Issue 9!!! It would be great story to tell to our 
grandchildren!
Comment 907 by syrusfrost, Nov 15, 2009
Rename +1! How about "Og"?
Comment 908 by mhnin0, Nov 16, 2009
This is the test, Google.  Are you evil?
Comment 909 by bruno.desthuilliers, Nov 16, 2009
Dear Mr Google, the whole community is watching you. Please DoTheRightThing(tm).
Comment 912 by messaggeroo, Nov 16, 2009
G spot
Comment 915 by mynamebackwards, Nov 16, 2009
It's Monday, time for a response!
Comment 916 by fmort...@me.com, Nov 16, 2009
Issue 9 is brilliant!
Comment 917 by bthackray, Nov 16, 2009
Golang or issue9 (I'd keep it as a single word by omitting the space between issue and 
9 personally)  
Theyre both better names in my opinion anyway, and its fairer
Comment 918 by davidmurton, Nov 16, 2009
GoToo
Comment 919 by rodseth, Nov 16, 2009
Seems to me like "golang" is catching on. The main webpage for information about Go is 
golang.org and the name of the package in at least one Linux distro is "golang".
Comment 920 by dschauer, Nov 16, 2009
Yeah, I vote for "golang". Not because of Mr McCabe's "Go!" but because go is too
generic and is not readily search-able.
Comment 921 by charles.chmj, Nov 16, 2009
+2 for issue 9

<snip from go for c++, replace (go,go statement) with (issue 9,issue statement)>

Issue 9 permits starting a new thread of execution (a issueroutine) using the issue 
statement. The issue statement runs a function in a different, newly created, 
issueroutine. All issueroutines in a single program share the same address space.

Internally, issueroutines act like coroutines that are multiplexed among multiple 
operating system threads. You do not have to worry about these details.

func server(i int) {
    for {
        print(i);
        sys.sleep(10)
    }
}
issue server(1);
issue server(2);
(Note that the for statement in the server function is equivalent to a C++ while (true) 
loop.)

<snip>
Comment 922 by alesterre, Nov 16, 2009
Issue 9 is good.
Comment 923 by bytbox, Nov 16, 2009
+1 for Issue 9 - it sounds nice and austere.  And it sorta makes sense - google 
didn't check very carefully for a name conflict (or didn't care), so they get to 
have a language named after the fact that they didn't check very carefully for a 
name conflict.

Comment 924 by dujinfang, Nov 16, 2009
GGo
GooG
GL - Go lang
G2H - Go to hell
GoLang
Comment 925 by itsik.aviad, Nov 16, 2009
At the risk of repeating what others have mentioned before. I too am very much in
support of the original author of 'Go'. Google should rename their programming language.
Comment 926 by Arcticuno, Nov 16, 2009
I'd rather have the name stay the same.  Issue 9 doesn't have any of the elegance of
"Go", and changing the name would cause a good deal of fragmentation, I think.

+1 for keeping the name the same...
Comment 927 by nelodvn, Nov 16, 2009
I support Mr. McCabe.
Comment 928 by are.belong.to.dario, Nov 16, 2009
I love Issue 9 but it would be hard to search it, so Golang FTW!
Comment 929 by ltlbigman, Nov 16, 2009
Hopping on the "golang" bandwagon. There's already a glove to fit that hand into.
Comment 930 by Sergey.K...@gmail.com, Nov 16, 2009
hey, guys, It's first of all a name for the game which had been created long ages ago!
The game of Go or the Go game (Baduk). 
If you google for www.gog.is/Game+of+Go , you'll realize (yeah, that was shock for me as well, but still, don't 
even know how to recover...), that that game was invented a bit before 5000 years ago and.. not by Google!! Yes, 
that crashing truth, but we have to live with that..
Didn't you really know that?! Name clashing is ridiculous here!

Comment 931 by julian.notfound, Nov 16, 2009
#930 So I can use the name 'Pascal' for a new programming language, and expect
general applause for my clever naming ideas, because that name was already in use for
other things long before Niklaus Wirth used it?

Comment 932 by graham.p...@gmail.com, Nov 16, 2009
Google probably already knew about "Go!" (or "gobang" as it may be pronounced,
although it makes the "Let's Go!" book title sound dirty).   So "Go" without the "!"
is like "C#" without the "#". Also, I doubt you can trademark "Go" so legally there's
not leg to .  

The real problem with the "Go" name is that its Google-proof: finding documents and
references on it will forever be a pain. 

I'd say "Golang" or "GoLa" as a more Google-able name.  None of the "Issue 9" silliness.
Comment 933 by takashi85eg, Nov 16 (6 days ago)
Mr McCabe's go a head and kick google azz 
not long ago google lawyers were busy in tracking any site that its name were similar
to one of google sites they closed many sites like youtubeislam.com for example and
forced the site owner to change it to tubeislam.com take a look on
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=124755579536
but in your case you have the right man go a head and ask for your rights
Comment 934 by JQBalter, Nov 16 (6 days ago)
"Let the language with the most users keep its name.  

Er... That's not yours, is it? "

That attitude is pretty much the sort of evil that Google's founders don't want done.
Comment 935 by seliqui, Nov 16 (6 days ago)
ELGOOG

sounds like a Spanish computer from the 40's and avoids forcing the OP renaming their lang to 'Gone'...
Comment 936 by jordanrastrick, Nov 16 (6 days ago)
Wow... 

A comparison of this "mistake" to the corporate dysfunction that brought down Lehman 
Brothers.

Someone claiming to be an IP lawyer who doesn't know the difference between 
trademarks and copyright.

People accusing Google of hubris on the scale of equating themselves with God - 
because they didn't notice an incredibly obscure existing language had a similar (not 
identical) name to theirs. Which, incidentally, is not merely free and open source, 
but is pretty much just an outright gift to the global development community, because 
there's no real commercial market share considerations involved in a programming 
language, unlike many of Google's other free offerings which are clearly of strategic 
value.

This thread is surely subject to xkcd's law of youtube - you couldn't post a comment 
here dumb enough that people would know it was satirical.

I think for the sake of Google's long term prospects as a company, they really need 
to nip this kinda crap in the bud, and definitively come out and reject the notion 
that "don't be evil" means "spend inordinate time, money and energy ensuring you 
don't ever mildly inconvenience any other person on the face of the earth."

While issue9 would have a cool "memetic" factor as a name, I'm starting to think it 
would be an eternal reminder of the day one Google allowed a bunch of whining 
internet idiots bully them into changing an inconsequential decision for no real 
justifiable reason.

Give people an inch, and its often the case that they'll take a mile. Any company 
would be better off without the kind of customers who threaten to boycott it over 
something like this. And this isn't just my prejudices as a customer service worker 
coming to the fore - its empirically well founded, and established in business best 
practice circles. The average business wants to lose its worst 10% or so of customers  
- it frees up a huge amount of essentially wasted resources that can be much better 
spent making the normal people a great deal more happy.


Comment 937 by deisum, Nov 16 (6 days ago)
While I would love to see go renamed issue9 for the lulz (and PR among self-righteous
geeks, such as those who would include 'do no evil' as a founding tenet of their
company), Google's got a brand to maintain (which is why they're releasing this
language).

So, for the sake of the sanity of language, I think it needs to be renamed golang. 
And as a mea culpa to this whole situation, call the debugger issue9.
Comment 938 by capriconsoftware, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
Dude, get another name! The Google Go language is famous where nobody ever heard or
cared about your language... just choose another name or if you really had a problem
why didn't you trade mark it? then you've a legal right to complain... for now, you
don't! 
Comment 939 by akasey2, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
I guess Google should buy Mr McCabe's rights on Go! language for GOOGLE $USD to
resolve this issue :)
Comment 940 by churruka, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
I see this bug report is the only one still in "NEW" status. If they don't care about
this they should change to "WONT FIX"; if they do they should change this to "ACCEPTED".

Is Google trying to ignore this?
Comment 941 by DaveBMackenzie, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
"GOL"  Google's Own Language.

Comment 943 by coolboygreatone, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
I think google is not going to change the name of their programming language.
Man! find another name like "@$%^&*#%&!" so that nobody can steal it. 
Have a good luck!!!

Comment 944 by justinf, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
issue 9 would tie in perfectly to the plan 9 os.

i think the name rocks.

Comment 945 by dkersten, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
I also vote Go is renamed to Issue9.
Comment 946 by ivor...@yahoo.com, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
If the name can't stay and it must go, then why not "stay".  As in "should I stay or
should I go now"... Issue 9 sounds a little clunky to me and I don't think it has,
ahem, staying power...

Comment 947 by oscar.reyes.delacruz, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
If Issue9 doesn't make it through I propose the new name to be: G9 or Go9 they're
using similar names for their commands anyway: http://golang.org/cmd/
Comment 948 by tjw3000, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
I like issue9 / i9, but I also think 'oops' would be ok too.
Comment 949 by hall.jeff, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
Perhaps a trade is fair. They keep "Go" and Mr. McCabe gets to rename his language
"Google!"

Or maybe they'll just stroke a 200k check ;)
Comment 950 by justin.d.poliey, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
Another vote for Issue9, what a cool language name.
Comment 951 by peteryoungmeister, Nov 17 (6 days ago)
issue 9 from google labs ftw~
Comment 952 by sargavarju, Nov 17 (5 days ago)
speaking as engineering student, I must ask:

history and culture has registered the word "Go" for the game go... for any person
connected to mathematics and programming, the word go assciates to the game.

mister mccabe and google:

why is it necessary to hijack this name with your own project?
Comment 953 by dschauer, Nov 17 (5 days ago)
Go != Go!
Comment 954 by malkia, Nov 17 (5 days ago)
It's the Come From Language!
Comment 955 by SmoothPorcupine, Nov 18 (5 days ago)
Comment 936: Dramatization vs dramatization. Nice.

I have to wonder. As someone pointed out earlier, go is open source, so *when*
someone (or some group) makes a go clone with the name Issue 9, will people use that
or go? Remember, this language is still only a few days old, people have no
attachment to it yet.

Looking at the votes, it would be reasonable in some manner to assume people would go
with the clone.

In fact, a clone would wipe out many of the cons that this project faces with
renaming, and retain all the pros. And all those features that have been rejected
could be added.

It will sure be interesting to see how the community reacts, whatever path is chosen
on Google's side.
Comment 956 by advait.m.raut, Nov 18 (5 days ago)
This issue is carelessness shown by Google. Google should search for some other name. 
Its like promoter of open-source technology trying to kill other open-source guys not
with the quality but with the pride.
Comment 957 by dschauer, Nov 18 (5 days ago)
Ok, reality check. Google Go started as an internal project by a very small team of
*nix developers. Does every internal project name within a company have to checked
against all conceivable project names that might exist in other companies? Of course
not. Pride on Google's part? I don't think that the Google the collective really
thought that a name as simple as "Go" should be checked. Point me to the rule that
says that only 676 English language based 2 letter project names are allowed to exist
in the whole world for all of history...

Comment 958 by coolboygreatone, Nov 18 (5 days ago)
this discussion is silly.
Comment 959 by Jacob.Ouellette, Nov 18 (5 days ago)
dschauer : The problem is, the issue9 language is no longer an internal project!  I
could call my internal project C#, but as soon as I release it, I'd have to change
the name to avoid the conflict.
Comment 960 by jsavaged...@yahoo.com, Nov 18 (5 days ago)
They should rename it to GoScript, G#, Gothon, GHP, ActionGo, or G++!  :)
Comment 961 by mynamebackwards, Nov 18 (5 days ago)
@dschauer
Does every internal project name within a company have to checked
against all conceivable project names that might exist in other companies?

I know when *I* start a project that will see wide release I ALWAYS check to see if
the name is taken. So yeah, they should have checked. You check EVERY time. How hard
is that?
Comment 962 by dschauer, Nov 18 (5 days ago)
@mynamebackwards and @Jacob.Quellette, yes, I check every time, mainly to avoid
collisions/confusion, not because I'm worrying about stepping on someone else's
project name. And I agree that Google should have checked better. Also, in the case
of Go!, prior to #issue 9, finding Go! even with google search might have been very
difficult. I find google more at fault on this issue for allowing a publically
released project to have such a short common name that is highly prone to collisions.

@coolboygreatone, you are correct, this discussion is silly....
Comment 963 by zaphod69, Nov 18 (4 days ago)
Didn't anyone catch the missing 666 comment joke???  no evil = no 666 comment. duh   
Comment 964 by zaphod69, Nov 18 (4 days ago)
COMMENT 960 : goscript is already kind of taken... by ghostscript... 
Comment 965 by shuxiang29, Nov 18 (4 days ago)
Yes,Google's Go must change its name, Issue9 is Great! 
Comment 966 by Maykeye, Nov 19 (4 days ago)
9 days passed and issue still in New status. Ridiculous.
Comment 967 by golangdev, Nov 19 (4 days ago)
GOlang is perfect, Issue9 is silly
Comment 968 by roblesjm, Nov 19 (4 days ago)
I wrote 5 blog posts using GoLang name :)
Comment 969 by bellefy, Nov 19 (3 days ago)
Everyone needs to get over this issue. Google is not going to change the name.
They've already invested too much time and money for their developers wages into it.
Even to create and maintain this issue list. A PAID developer at Google!!!!

In addition, I think its clear they are under no legal obligation to do so.

To Mr McCabe: you win some, you lose some. Sorry man!

Get over it.
Comment 970 by venkat.nr, Nov 19 (3 days ago)
There is no legal obligation it looks like for "Go" to be renamed.  Now that "Go" 
has been advertised and largely understood as a language developed and promoted by 
Google, it may be easier for the language "Go!" to be emphasised with the ! so that 
it is understood as a different language and even enhanced with may be some help 
from Google if both parties are willing.   I think this should be closed 
with "closed - no fix planned" as that seems to be intent here and stop the 
unproductive discussions
Comment 971 by kjell.arne.rekaa, Nov 20 (3 days ago)
The name for interpreting the language should be short (like cc, etc)
The name should be easy to search too
Good sugestions: 
golang - gl or gol (for compiling, no change on webpage) 
Think about the debugger: "god" ;-) or "gld" and profiler "gop"

go2 is also a nice short and searchable name.

BTW, did anyone mention the that world best browser ("Firefox"), actually was
released and well known as "Firebird" for a while? It had a logo a bit like today´s
fox, but with a bird flying out as a phoenix from the ashes.
BUT - there was a database called Firebird... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Firefox
Comment 972 by mkoistinen, Nov 20 (3 days ago)
The missing comment #666 is not a 'feature' the Google Code issue tracker, it is
clearly a deleted comment.  Other Google Code groups have indeed issues numbered this
high where 666 wasn't skipped. 
(http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=%22http%3A%2F%2Fcode.google.com%2Fp%2F%22+%22%2Fissues%2Fdetail%3Fid%3D666%22).
 So, the MUCH MORE INTERESTING question is, what happened to "Comment #666 for Issue
#9 at Go" go?
Comment 973 by dejannenov, Nov 20 (2 days ago)
Hmm - what happened to "Do No Evil!"...

Bottom line - if the name has not been registered/trademarked there is not much that
can force the name change.

But - if I were influencing decisions at Google - it would get a LOT of kudos from
the community if they acknowledged the issue and either bought the right (actual or
not) or changed...

They don't have to - but the elegant thing would be to do it... or at least address
it officially...
Comment 974 by SmoothPorcupine, Nov 21 (2 days ago)
*waiting for official response*
Comment 975 by oolanguage, Nov 21 (2 days ago)
Just call it The OO Programming Language:
1.  OO for the "oo" in Google
2.  OO for object-oriented
3.  OO for fast compilation (phonetically, that is - e.g., "Oo, it's fast!")
4.  www.oolang.org 
Comment 976 by bthannan, Nov 21 (2 days ago)
I think it comes down to whether McCabe actually got a copyright on the name for his
language or not. If he did, then Google will have to change its name. If he did not,
then it is up to the discretion of Google whether to change the name. However, it
would be pretty uncool for Google to reuse a name of a language like that. Nobody
really cares about the name of a language, but programmers do care that a language is
useful. You could name your language anything ... I mean look at Java (a cup of
coffee?) Come on! You could name your language Plate or Wheel ... who cares? Google
should change the name regardless and change the title for the tutorial page because
it's the same thing as McCabe's book. Google you are better than this ... simply
admit your mistake and change the name. It will catch on no matter what. 
Comment 977 by mcprogrammer, Nov 21 (2 days ago)
#971: Firefox is actually the third name. It was originally called Phoenix before
they changed it to Firebird. They changed it because of trademark issues with Phoenix
Technologies and then the Firebird database people got upset.
Comment 978 by jordy.dickinson, Nov 21 (42 hours ago)
Another vote for Issue 9

It would make the most awesome reference.
Comment 979 by one...@ymail.com, Nov 21 (40 hours ago)
I too like Glang.
What about Goog?
Comment 980 by Morgaine.Dinova, Yesterday (38 hours ago)
Come on Google, be good people and change the name, so we can go back to working on
the language instead of being annoyed at your little mistake.

Even ignoring the clash and prior claim, nobody in their right mind wants to search
for "Go".  It's extremely unhelpful.
Comment 981 by coroi.sergiu, Yesterday (36 hours ago)
i am really interested will the Google prove it's name of not being evil and change
the name, or it will turn to be another M$ corporation
Comment 982 by turecki, Yesterday (34 hours ago)
If contents of Issue 9 would lead to changind new Google's language name which 
personally I think is the right choice, I would vote for "G" (not listed on 
wikipedia as already used name) or Go2 (original and libraries naming sceme would 
not change), both containing the magic "G" letter, which by the way officially 
stands for good - in "don't be evil" phrase.

As for goopy - pronounced in english means "stupid" in polish, well, reminds me of 
the "syfy" channel which is written and pronounced in Poland as grunge as well as 
pimple and... (goo)ber. Just a note about multilingual diversity of meanings :)

Comment 983 by kevincantu, Yesterday (16 hours ago)
'i9' ++
Comment 984 by h.vonbargen, Today (13 hours ago)
Another vote for "Issue9"
Comment 985 by k2toh.my, Today (13 hours ago)
The programming language name "Go" should belongs to Mr. McCabe (et'al) 
and should not belongs to Google (yet, another type of programming 
language - YATPL). On contrary they produce a search engine they can't even 
googling for that the Go programming name already up. Shame on you 
google !

"Do" rename your google programming language to something may be like 
"DoGone" OR a better name like "DoGo".

follow link http://www.misspedia.org/DOGO_programming_language.html

(DOGO is a fictional programming language invented as a joke by John Unger 
Zussman)
Comment 986 by pkrnjevic, Today (5 hours ago)
Simple solution: in the tradition of "C", drop the "o" and call it "G". I'm reasonably 
sure no one can lay claim to G.
Comment 987 by iaslan, Today (5 hours ago)
What about gola ?
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