ID3 supports duplicates of the same frame type why not support it? #409
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From goetzchrist on January 14, 2011 11:26:32 As pointed out in issue 916 , but is not in this issue, if support for this is not implemented, the edited tags (in Clementine) with multiple tags for the same field can get lost or mixed badly in the same field. Many people won't even know that they may have multiple tags for the same field. |
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From keirangtp on April 09, 2011 09:35:51 Issue 1288 has been merged into this issue. |
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From Arpheno on April 09, 2011 09:50:03 OP could you give us a brief overview of your progress? I am very willing to work on this issue, but I don't really know where to start. |
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From keirangtp on April 10, 2011 11:35:18 There's no real progress at this point. This issue seems like a one that's not extremely hard but the changes might span the whole application, from bottom to top. Because of this, it's not the best issue to start working on Clementine. |
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From pmaedel on April 16, 2011 01:27:41 well in my point of view, if you have to make wide spanning changes to an application for implementing a feature, it is advisable to implement this feature rather sooner than later. |
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From sco50000 on August 06, 2011 23:06:07 I think comment 5 has a point. If not now, then when? |
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Will this change in the near future? Because this would be such an important feature for me. |
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I just discovered Clementine because I was experimenting with single-file flac rips with CUE sheets. This is a really nice player, but it's out as the go-to library manager, for this very issue. With services like Gracenote plugging multiple genres into almost everything, managing a library with a manager that doesn't support it is simply not sustainable. |
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I would really like to have this feature. Also, I would add that Clementine shoudl also support mulitple tags for artists, since multiple artists can work on the same song. Since there is no commit associated to this issue (correct me if I'm wrong), I will try to work on it on my free time. I don't want to prevent anyone to work on it though. |
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@hamjo I've been waiting a long time for a library-oriented player to support this. The Pragha dev is interested in adding this feature but he says what's blocking him is support in taglib. I'm pretty sure Clementine uses taglib too. So perhaps a taglib feature request might unblock the situation. |
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I am sorry about what I proimised, but I won't be implementing this feature. Since my computer would be the only one to have a music player supporting multiple values for a tag, I do not have an interest anymore into that feature. Sorry. |
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I came here looking for the same issue, support for multiple frames. I was using MusicBee and MP3tag for tagging purpose, until I started using Linux. In Linux I am using puddletag to tag my songs. I have tagged all my songs with multiple frames for multiple values (artists, composers, lyricists, etc.). Both ID3 and Vorbis Comment can contain multiple frames for same tag. In MusicBee I had no problems as it handles multiple values like this: In Clementine, only the first artist, of the same song, which is mentioned in the above screenshot, is shown, and the second artist is ignored and not listed in the Artists column. If I edit the tags, it shows as "Adam Szabo Johan Vilborg" as if there is only one artist with a big name. What I would recommend is, to add at least a ";", like MusicBee does, to represent and differentiate all the artists, instead of showing all of them without any delimiter as if there is only a single artist with a big name. |
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Is this have been put as a feature request ? Has it been acknowledge by the Clementine devs ? |
From yellow_onion@orcon.net.nz on June 15, 2010 10:52:22
the other day I learnt that ID3 supports multiple frames of the same type
explanation:
I'm going through tagging all my music, and I've come across the ability (with MusicBrains Picard and the Lastfm Plus Plugin) to add multiple genre tags to my music. This is what I've been looking for for a while, this enables us to restructure the group by genre structure of the library to cross reference songs with the genre's and list them, One, two three, or how many time's you have a the genre tag, or you could use the genre tag as a hierarchy of genre's, sub-genre's and sub-sub-genre's and so on.
the next feature would be cross referencing Artist's using the same format as the first suggestion plus a seperator tag( put in a TXXX frame) so you save the Artist as ['Artist 1','Artist 2'] and then save in the TXXX frame a 'vs'(I have a lot of these Vs songs), 'and' or ';'
Songs like "My Own Summer (Shove It)" feature on many albums like The Matrix OST and Around the Fur, could benefit from using two frames for the album and since the matrix OST is a Various artist album, the Album Artist Tag could benefit from having two frames
So your probably wondering what formats support duplicate tags
ID3v2.3(I think) and up supports lists in most tags, I personally can't find a tag that doesn't support it( this includes FLAC and MP3, RIFF, TrueAudio)
Xiph Comments supports it( FLAC, and Vorbis)
APE doesn't seem to support it ( mp3, Wavpack)
MP4 doesn't support it (AAC, anything else you wanna pack in it I guess?)
ASF doesn't support it
this is going by reference of the taglib implementation
I mean this will require an over haul of the database engine (I already have a SQL scheme in the works but that's for another project I'm working on) and probably deviates away for the Amarok Clone Model (personally I Liked Amarok's UI the most and the database could have used a redesign
Original issue: http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/issues/detail?id=409
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