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Currently, you can only save in Chrome. You cannot "run", or "open", as
other browsers can. I would very much like that feature-
Sep 2, 2008
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-Type-Bug -Area-Unknown Type-Feature Area-BrowserUI
Sep 3, 2008
Well, technically, any executable or file hosted on the web must first be downloaded before it could be opened or run. Once the file is downloading, you can select that file (in the bottom) and choose to open/run it automatically upon completion of the download. Or, if it was downloaded previously, you can re-visit your downloads from within Chrome and can open/run it from there. So, I don't see this as being an issue inasmuch as a learning curve.
Sep 3, 2008
With IE and Firefox (and Opera) if you choose to Run/Open a file it downloads to your TEMP directory and opens the file from there. This way your download directory isn't cluttered with files you only ever meant to view once.
Nov 17, 2008
This is a duplicate of https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=338
Nov 17, 2008
I can understand where people are coming from with downloading it and then running it however it's not always necessary to do that. Take, for example, Torrents or those web setup programs that the likes of Yahoo! and Microsoft love so much. When you launch a torrent, most programs nowadays will copy the file into their own folder, leaving you with a redundant file in your download folder. As for programs that use a web setup installer, once you've performed the initial run, the file is useless to you. If you want to change or repair, you can use the Add/Remove Programs entry. If you want to reinstall it, you can either use the cached 'real' installer or go and re-download the tiny little boot-strapper. Either way, without this 'run' option, you end up with a bunch of 'temporary' files which you'll probably never use again yet are cluttering up your download folder. I can understand that this is a minor feature request and there are way more important things out there that need addressing but I feel that this should at least be considered as it's more than a request for feature cloning, it's a practical function that can be very useful in a number of different scenarios.
Dec 29, 2008
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Mergedinto: 338
Jan 5, 2009
Issue 338 has been merged into this issue.
Jan 5, 2009
I don't know how to do it, but it would be useful to surface a UI equivalent of IE's "Run" (without IE's intermediate modal dialog).
Status:
Available
Owner: --- Labels: Mstone-X DesignDocNeeded Mergedinto: -338
Feb 9, 2009
I like how it is. just set chrome to not ask where to save. Then when you download a file, you just click save, and when it's done downloading, click its icon in the download bar to run it.
Feb 9, 2009
Yes, but what if I don't want the file SAVED on my computer permentely? I'd rather have it save in a temporary folder automaticlly when I click 'Run' when I save it.
Feb 26, 2009
Possible solution for you to directly view PDF files in Chrome. I was looking for solution to this too and in my search I found markmail.org's forum. Try this... 1. Open Google Chrome. 2. In the address bar, type "about:plugins". You'll see a long list of all of your browser's plugins. 3. Do a page search for "Adobe Acrobat." (Search within a page by hitting Ctrl+F). 4. You should see this > File name: nppdf32.dll 5. If not do the following. If you are on Window XP, COPY nppdf32.dll FROM \Program Files\Adobe\[Your installed Acrobat version]\Acrobat\Browser TO [username]\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\Plugins\ If you are using Window Vista, COPY nppdf32.dll FROM \Program Files\Adobe\[Your installed Acrobat version]\Acrobat\Browser TO [username]\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\Plugins That should work. [Ref URL :http://markmail.org/message/bzypulp6lsmixkur]
Mar 10, 2009
This request is here from first public beta. Many people need open/save dialog, same like me. Because without this dialog is opening all attachments in email (for example) really annoying. Where is problem insert one new dialog between browser and "save as" dialog. All browser have it. Why you can't give people this useful choice. This dialog is the only one reason, why i don't using Chrome. Shame for me, i know.
Apr 4, 2009
All you have to do is to download a file to %temp% without asking where to store it. Why does it take so long to implement such a useful function? I hate it to have to save a file continuously when I receive it via email, and afterwards I have to go to the download location to delete it. This is really annoying me! To help myself a little bit I set the default download location to Desktop, so that I can quickly delete them. If I have a download I want to save I later copy it from desktop to it's destination-location. Because almost 75% of all downloads I make are only to view it once. Just 25% is for storage on my HDD. And because my %temp% location is automatically emptied every 2 weeks I wouldn't mind if these files are stored in there!
Apr 4, 2009
An other good example: all the screenshots attached to the bugs/requests on this website. Nobody does collect them (I think). But everybody has to save them to their HDD.
Apr 6, 2009
Issue 9725 has been merged into this issue.
Apr 20, 2009
This is VERY annoying i unknowingly was forced to download an online installation package that was 232MB only to discvover 35 minutes later that it wouldnt work since it was looking for a local file on the site . SOLUTION: was to open IE and run the file from there no 35 min wait to download just a straight 10 min install. its a shame, I Really like chrome but when simple Features like "print Selection" and "Open/Run from Location" are missing and are available in every other browser it makes me wonder if Google really wants a successful Browser, especially since these issues have been around since sept 2008 (Chromes Launch Date)
Apr 20, 2009
@sketch42, although this feature (ability to run files "directly") is important, it cannot help with the situation you described. In fact, what you describe can only mean the website is doing something *different* for IE such that it works in IE. The ability to run files "directly" still requires the file to be downloaded first. It just means Chrome should function differently eg. don't bother to show the file in download shelf but just automatically run/open the file after download. If the file is 232MB in size and takes 35mins to download, it will take that long to download first before it can be "directly" run. If the file requires a local file from the site, it will fail regardless of being run "directly" or after being saved first. (Most certainly, you are *not* running the program "from the site" regardless of saving first or running "directly".) So if the program can run for IE and complete the install, the website is probably sending a different installation program that actually works when running in IE.
Apr 20, 2009
At the risk of going around in circles some more, doesn't this feature just require downloading the file to a temp directory, opening it as soon as it's downloaded and periodically cleaning up the old temp files? I believe that's how other browsers do it.
Apr 20, 2009
@ghosttie, you are totally correct! That's exactly what it needs and that's exactly how other browsers do it. Which is why I point out to sketch42 that the time for a full download is still required and you are running the downloaded file from the temp directory (definitely *not* "from the site").
Apr 21, 2009
Issue 10745 has been merged into this issue.
Apr 22, 2009
@krtulmay However, the browser has full access to caches, and temporary file folders(and vice versa), and therefore can do what Sketch42 said.
Apr 23, 2009
@kidyelman, a browser's (including Chrome's) access to its disk cache and/or temporary folders can only perhaps help if downloading/"directly" running a file for the second time (assuming the downloaded file is in the cache). It may be possible to "download" or "directly run" the file quicker if it is in the cache. Otherwise, downloading a large file for the first time will always take all the time that is required to download the entire file. Also, access to cache and/or temporary folders cannot help at all with the second part of sketch42's problem. If the downloaded file requires a local file from the website to properly run, it will always fail regardless of downloaded first, or run "directly", or disk cache, or temporary folders.
May 13, 2009
I've just noticed that this issue is tagged as Milestone X and even DesignDocNeeded. Perhaps there's a misunderstanding... I don't know what you developers have in mind, but I think that simply doing what ghosttie suggested (comment 22) would do it. When I starred this issue, some time ago, I only meant this (and by reading the comments, I'd say I'm not the only one). "DesignDocNeeded" makes me think you mean something different and more complex. That's why I say there might be a misunderstanding. And if you accept one piece of advice, I'd set it to Milestone 2.0: this is currently the only feature that I do REALLY miss, and though I'm not an expert coder, I think implementing this could be a lot easier than many other things.
May 13, 2009
I believe one issue is with files downloaded through secured channels (by that, I also mean using authentication) as you'd probably don't want your file to live in a temp folder until someone or something deletes it; it would be hidden to many eyes but recoverable by anyone. And how about the "private" mode? Let's say I'm using Chrome in an Internet cafe (yes, unlikely they'd use Chrome but imagine they'd do); I wouldn't want the files I download from my webmail to be recoverable by the next guy to use the PC. Storing the file in a temp folder isn't a solution (except for geek users). IE has an option (off by default!) that won't let it automatically store a file in a temp folder if it's been downloaded through HTTPS (you'd only have the "save" and "cancel" options, no "open" button in the dialog box), this is a first step, but still not enough (many webmails don't use HTTPS and, I repeat, the option defaults to "off", i.e. always save temp files).
May 13, 2009
Issue 10593 has been merged into this issue.
May 15, 2009
Issue 11707 has been merged into this issue.
Jun 1, 2009
Issue 12994 has been merged into this issue.
Jul 13, 2009
http://docs.google.com/View?docID=ddwscr86_3gf6phhv6 Here is a good design doc for a new download/upload system, imo Taken from issue 4715
Jul 16, 2009
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Labels:
Downloads
Aug 9, 2009
I did a poll in the Google Chrome's community most visited of Orkut. After a significant number of users have voted, the count showed, for now, that the "Chrome way to download" is one of the features most bother the people. This, of course, is making many users leave the Google Chrome. There's a thing important to do here.
Aug 9, 2009
I propose, then, some changes. In the "Under the Hood" should be added one more option, like this: (Options 1 and 2 already exist) ------------------- Section "Downloads": Download location: 1. [C:\.... ] [Browse...] 2. ( ) Ask where to save each file before downloading 3. ( ) Ask for open file from a temporary folder ------------------- To make life easier for lay users, who are accustomed to other browsers, the "2" and "3" should be marked by default, when Chrome is downloaded. BELOW, I DESCRIBE MY PROPOSAL FOR BROWSER ACTIONS ON EACH OCCASION: ** a) 2 and 3 deselected: When the user clicks on a link to download, the browser will automatically save the file in the address selected in 1 (just as currently happens when the option is not marked 2). Chrome alert, as already do, if a file is dangerous. ** b) Only 2 selected: When the user clicks on a link to download, will be taken to a dialog box to select where he wants to save the file on his computer. After, the download is done normally. ** c) Only 3 selected: After clicking on a link to download, a dialog box will open: ------------------ You are trying to download the file "example.xxx" from "http://example.com" What would you like Chrome does? [ Open ] [ Save ] [ Cancel ] ( ) Run automatically after download. Note: For details, change the downloads settings at "Under the Hood" in the "Options" menu. ------------------ If the user clicks "Open", the file will be automatically saved on a temporary folder, and if selected the option to "run automatically", that opens automatically for now, just as if it were simply clicked on the downloads bar. If the user clicks "Save", the file will be downloaded normally, at chosen address in the 1. ** d) 2 and 3 selected: This should be the default. Then, when the user clicks on a link to download, will be taken to the same dialog box drawn above. If he clicks "Open", the file will be automatically saved on a temporary folder, as the topic "c". If he clicks "Save", will open another dialog box that asks where wants to save the file on his computer. Thus, we facilitate the adaptation of new users of the Google's browser. Note: Extensions can customize the browser action per-filetype to download.
Aug 9, 2009
A dialog box will appears only for those who are with both items selected (2 and 3), as shown above. So those who feel disagreeable, just need to clear the options, only once, in the settings of browser.
Sep 11, 2009
Obviously the problem here is that what is being proposed will add another step to the download process and Chromium's principle is to eliminate as many steps and prompts as possible. What I would suggest is..... 1. Add an option to the download shelve "Run and Discard" to delete the file after you run it. 2. Download the file by default into a temp folder and the add a "Run and Keep" option to the download shelve.
Sep 13, 2009
"Obviously the problem here is that what is being proposed will add another step to the download process" There would not be more steps if Chrome does this: Note that Chrome already has an option to automatically open the file based on its extension. (After saving it in the default or chosen directory) If the file isn't marked for auto-open, Chrome handles it as it does now. Else, Chrome downloads the file to a temporary folder and opens it. (makes the default program used for handling that file type open the file) So, no more steps involved. What if you want to save the file after opening it? The application used to open the file can usually save it. If it can't, add an option to the "right click menu" to save the file, that would really copy the file to the chosen folder. When does Chrome delete the "opened" file from the temporary directory? Just like the Firefox add-on "Download Status Bar", when you close the downloads bar. Of course, as already mentioned, Chrome could also have an OPTION to show a pop-up asking to open or save.
Oct 1, 2009
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Labels:
-Downloads Feature-Downloads
Oct 2, 2009
Download shelf needs improvement. The suggested design doc seems great! And allows for Chrome to be a window manager also for documents that reside in the download shelf... * The "Download Shelf" is where downloaded files go. The GC team wanted to allow you to upload files (think webmail attachment) directly from the shelf too; see this outdated page: http://dev.chromium.org/user-experience/downloads * Currently the shelf can't come back if you hide it, and deleting files is too complicated. * Sometimes you want downloaded files to be only temporarily on the current computer, but primarily on a storage service (S3, perhaps GDrive, ...). Thus you'd need the Shelf to integrate with the file storage service of your choice (S3 is one). The Shelf could become a "New files" folder. The Chrome page for Downloaded files could split (hor/vert) to show the file service on one half. (And by now this issue has degenerated to a design doc discussion? Sorry for adding to the existing confusion...)
Oct 5, 2009
@simon.bohlin: This is not a thread about the design, but about being able to save the file to cache instead of to the "downloads" folder. If you would like to discuss the design, I suggest continuing your discussion at Issue 23767 or Issue 9845.
Nov 5, 2009
Issue 26783 has been merged into this issue.
Nov 5, 2009
Issue 23668 has been merged into this issue.
Nov 8, 2009
I have set my download location to %temp%\ChromeDownloads\, so that they will automatically be saved into the temporary folder, and be deleted after a week. However, for large downloads (size > 256MB) I now use a self-created program that deletes the file immediately after you close the program. But I don't understand: this issue is very old, and it is the 14th most requested feature. Why doesn't Chrome add it? It doesn't seem to difficult to me. In my own program I added this feature in about 3 hours, fully working, no files are left behind! If they are afraid for security because the file stays in %temp%: They could create a process that deletes the files once they come free (no longer in use). They could also use the (annoying) googleupdate process for this. Furtherthemore: it is the users choise if he/she saves the file in a temporary location. Also: if it really is because of this security, then they should think: what is more dangerous? A file saved in %temp% or a file in My Documents? I guess they are both equal dangerous for private files.
Nov 17, 2009
Issue 9023 has been merged into this issue.
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Nov 18, 2009
This is a basic feature which should not be too hard to implement and is needed by a large amount of people. Saving all files..including unnecessary ones..then locating them..then deleting them..every time..can become very frustrating and annoying!
Nov 29, 2009
I agree this is a basic feature that is a must. It's very "un-google style" not to being able of having a quick look to a file (ie Open Document File) without manually saving it to a permanent HDD location.
Nov 29, 2009
How is this still not fixed? It's the only thing keeping me from using Chrome. This feature request was first reported over a year ago and it's not a complicated request. Frustrated.. :)
Nov 30, 2009
Search query for feature requests: 926 results. https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=type:feature [clearing CC list since stupid Google code is complaining about one of the usernames on it]
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Nov 30, 2009
Search query for ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT feature requests with over 150 stars: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=type:feature&sort=-stars This issue is in the Top 10 feature requests! How is this still not fixed? This feature request was first reported over a year ago! How complicated can such a crucial requirement be?
Nov 30, 2009
I agree. This is a priority function, it's not a minor option but a basic usability function. Imagine if you read online pdfs, download torrents, view videos (not streams), listen to audio streams through an external program etc. How many unnecessary files would exist inside the home folder each day?
Nov 30, 2009
Comment 58: "[clearing CC list since stupid Google code is complaining about one of the usernames on it]" Does this mean nobody of the Chrome team will be notified about this and so this feature request will be ignored? I don't hope so. Comment 60: "How many unnecessary files would exist inside the home folder each day?" At least 10 to 12 per day in my case. I absolutely don't like IE, but if you look at it's way how it downloads files it is much better (also the only point IE is better in)... This full issue there has been ZERO explaining or other useful comments from @chromium.org users. All what's done is adding labels, CCing people and merging issues. What is the reason this very old request is still not fixed, as it is one of the most requested features? (Correct me if I'm wrong), but as far as I can see this request has been fully ignored by the Chrome developement team. BTW: sorry for this useless post, but it is more useful than all of those 'issue X has been merged into this issue' emails I receive because I starred some issues. Also sorry if you think this post is too offensive.
Dec 8, 2009
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Status:
Assigned
Owner: aba...@chromium.org
Dec 10, 2009
Adam, be sure to review the closely related Issue 2292 when fixing this bug. Thanks!
Dec 10, 2009
Fixed here on 4.0.249.30 / Linux ( you have to enable it in the options )
Dec 10, 2009
In another bug, nsylvain suggested that if the "Always open type" checkbox is checked, the download should go to a temp folder; else do what currently happens. This might be a good solution for this issue, as it doesn't add UI overhead and seems to solve the issue. The only problem is discoverability.
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nsylv...@chromium.org
Dec 14, 2009
(cpu says "Be careful with that. If by opening you mean running, then in windows an exe could end up using a dll that just happens to be next to it in the temp directory.". I guess "Always open" works only with save files anyways?)
Dec 14, 2009
if we implement this, at the very least each download should have its own random folder inside TEMP. In windows programs tend to load dlls in the same directory over other directories, this would allow exploitation if you happen to have a malicious dll floating around in TEMP.
Dec 14, 2009
Or at least to keep things a little more organized, perhaps "each download should have its own random folder inside a Chrome folder which is inside TEMP". But there is no question about "if". This is a requirement and must be implemented.
Dec 18, 2009
Area-UI-Features label replaces Area-BrowserUI label
Labels:
-Area-BrowserUI Area-UI-Features
Dec 23, 2009
Oh and please allow to totally disable the download bar.
Dec 25, 2009
I currently use the "Always open files of this type" option for Internet Radio Playlist files (*.pls) which works great, it opens Winamp for the first 101 clicks. Shoutcast sends the same file name regardless of station (tunein-station.pls) so with Windows XP it can only rename so many files with same file name (ex. tunein- station(100).pls) This is a very annoying behavior that has not been fixed with Chrome yet, I never want these files stored in my Download folder as they are useless to me. I moved my parents over to Chrome and they see this issue a lot and they don't understand why behavior changes over time. This really needs to be fixed sooner rather than later.
Dec 25, 2009
Yep. We need to figure out a UI for this feature. I'll follow up with the UX team after the holidays.
Jan 3, 2010
This issue has cause nearly half of the people I introduced to Chrome to switch back to Firefox. This is getting absurd. The status quo should be enabled, and security improvements or whatever should be made AFTERWARDS. I have to manually pick through my downloads folder to eliminate useless files on a weekly basis. I know this comment does not add value, but the number of stars is NOT representative of demand. Almost no one i know that wants this would have stumbled here and actually bothered to star or post.
Jan 13, 2010
Maybe add a (configurable?) list of file types wich should always be stored temporally (like .torrent, .m3u, etc.)?
Jan 13, 2010
Some files should not be stored at all. Instead an application must be invoked with url argument. It is necessary for example for streaming media or java webstart - launching local jnlp file usually works but is not 100% correct as it may miss codebase.
Jan 16, 2010
I don't really thing this is necessary simply because Chrome does downloads a bit differently already. If a user wants to open a file, they can click the entry in the download try and it will open when it finishes, which is what they wanted. I am finding it mildly annoying that so many people in this thread seem to think other browsers can magically open a file for viewing without having to save it somewhere on the drive first. As others have mentioned, they usually go in %TEMP%. I dunno if other browsers clean up these files but there's little need; if disk space is low Windows comes through and clears up %TEMP% anyway. Chrome's behavior is already very close to other browsers' open behavior but requires less prompts. However to make it even closer without sacrificing the minimalist Chrome experience I have tried to come up with some ideas that may help: 1) Make the default download directory %TEMP%, or make a ratio button in options to use this instead of My Documents\Downloads. Files desired for permanent download can be dragged off the tray by the user. Files may be cleaned up periodically, however there are few reliable ways to be sure the user is "done" with a file, one way could be to check the system uptime on browser startup and delete all files older than that time. 2) As P.Redert suggested... Firefox has a list of mime types and associated actions you can configure. Chrome could possibly use something like this, or at least extension APIs could be put in place to allow for extensions to control what happens with an individual file (handled with a plugin, downloaded, force display in browser, alter the mime type, block the file from being handled at all, etc). This may be a bit too much for this bug but the APIs would be welcome by extension devs I think :). 3) Right click option on links right next to "Save link as...", something like "Open link in associated program". Not sure if there should be a security warning for that, or where it would be appropriate to place one. Download tray maybe, like for downloads. 4) Re-instate the "Delete downloaded file" option on downloads (I miss it!). 5) Download drop-down menu option to "Always remove old files of this type from download directory" or something similar, see #1 for my ideas on when files would be removed and the criteria for doing so. 6) Options dialog option for deleting downloaded files when download bar closed (also would happen on browser close). A couple tweaks would have to be done IMO: Download bar close button could be made red to remind users it is now a destructive operation, undocking the last tab from a window with a download bar would move the download bar (or rather, the items in it) with the tab to whatever window its dropped in. Some of these could also be applied per-mime type as in #2. Now my responses about what others suggested: @thakis: Same problem with downloading DLLs to My Documents\Downloads or wherever. Besides, if we're talking about a group that downloads strange DLLs from strange sites, we can only do so much for them in terms of security. These are the people who turn off their malware filters because it blocks them from downloading a screensaver that nice spam mail linked them to. @zibree: Nice idea but you should open a new bug for that to be sure it's noticed. @artypan: Security is at the heart of Google Chrome and your suggestion goes against that core philosophy. Google is not about the status-quo. Furthermore this problem has nothing to do about security, but using the IE or Firefox UI would be exceedingly annoying since I am used to the Google UI. @P.Redert: As a side note: uTorrent has a feature that can watch a directory for .torrent files, then load and delete them when found. I've used it and am very happy with it. @mwisnicki: That is handled by NPAPI browser plugins and is a separate system from downloads, it is not relevant. All browsers will only download a file if they can't find a plugin that handles that type.
Jan 16, 2010
You wouldn't save every HTML file, YouTube Video, or image the user ever views, would you? Regardless of there being other (often hackish) solutions to this, the problem is the same. I went into my downloads directory today to try to find a file and there were literally thousands of torrents, documents, and PDF files in there that I had loaded once and never had any reason to ever want to load again. Often they were even multiple copies of the same document. It took me a good half hour to sort through them and delete the 95% that I had no intention of ever using again. That's just 3 months' accumulation. While in theory there are ways to rationalize not adding a feature to deal with temporary files, in reality not having it ends up making a big mess and leaving a lot of pointless work to the end user. Other browsers have all had to deal with and solved this problem, in some cases over a decade ago. Chrome's time will come as well.
Jan 17, 2010
I wouldn't be too happy with many of the things proposed here. For example: 1. Choosing whether to open or save the file using the MIME type or extension: there are zip files I want to open and zip files I wan't to save to my computer. No, thanks, I don't want my browser to choose this for me. 2. Automatically removing *old* files: what? I don't want to have files randomly disappearing from my downloads folder just because they're old. 3. Automatically removing *new* files when closing the download bar or the browser. What?! 4. Removing downloaded files of certain types: see 1; I don't want to have two Downloads directories and to stay all day copying files from one to the other so that *my* browser won't delete them. And so on. (though a way to delete them from disk using the downloads tab would be nice) So yes, I *want* to be asked every time what I want to happen with my downloads. Anything else for me would be more or less equivalent with data corruption. I don't care about showing modal dialogs and I wouldn't mind clicking a button in the download tray to choose between "open" and "save".
Jan 17, 2010
@grayshade: RE: 2 and 4. If you don't want it deleted, choose "save" instead of "open". The idea of "open" is that you do not want the file permanently saved on your PC. The Open/Save feature is universal in virtually all browsers - I don't see why Chrome should be different. The lack of this feature is THE #1 reason that people I know have yet to switch. If you like, though, you can have a "settings" option to change the default behavior.
Jan 17, 2010
@#81 That's what I was insisting on, i. e. being asked every time. Chrome is/will probably be different from other browsers because of certain design decisions regarding showing dialog boxes and asking the user about stuff.
Jan 18, 2010
@spet...: You hit the nail right on the head there. If I just want to open something, I don't much care where it's stored as long as I can view it and when I'm done it's not sitting somewhere on my computer taking up space. I would expect these files to be cleaned up at some point...in other words I don't want to have to think about them. I expect overall that more files are downloaded by people just to be viewed than are downloaded for the purpose of retaining a permanent copy. If one wanted a permanent copy, they should be able to elect to explicitly save it somewhere so they'll know where the file is for later reference.
Jan 29, 2010
Issue 33582 has been merged into this issue.
Feb 13, 2010
@abarth@chromium.org & the Chromium team: Do you know if this feature is happening? I'm tired of checking this webpage constantly... and I guess a lot of people too. Please let us know if it is in Google plans to implement the open/save dialog and we should keep waiting or if we should stick to Firefox or IE... I'm not criticising, I would just like to know if you're taking all this people suggestions and time into account or if you're just wasting our time. I hope you take my comment the wrong way...
Feb 13, 2010
Sorry... I meant you don't take my comment the wrong way in my comment before.
Feb 14, 2010
Sorry for not updating the bug. Here's the current status of this feature: 1) I've been talking with the UI team about how this feature should work from the user's perspective. We have a preliminary design that we're not that excited about, but we have some hope that we can improve iterate and improve it. Basically, the design is to make "open without saving" the default download behavior, but give users a "save" button on the download shelf that lets them keep the downloaded. (Note that we don't want to use the same modal user experience that other browsers use here because one of the design goals of the product is to avoid modal prompts whenever possible.) 2) While we're iterating on designing the user experience, I'm going to implement the "back end," which is the code that actually knows how to write the download into the temp directory and clean it up at the appropriate time. That's on my list of things to work on, but it has a lower priority than some other tasks in my queue. You can search for other bugs assigned to me and see what else I'm working on, if you're curious. At a higher level, we understand that this is a top user request, and we're not ignoring you. However, without a complete user experience design, it's difficult to target this feature to a particular Mstone. As long as this features is targeted at Mstone-X, I'm supposed to prioritize bugs targeted at nearer Mstones (like Mstone-5). I'm continuing to push for this feature, but I'd like to ask you all to have patience. Thanks, and I'll try to keep the status of this bug more up-to-date in the future.
Feb 14, 2010
@88: I see the appeal to the "save to temp without prompting by default" idea, but that cold be a MAJOR pain for people with multi-drive setups who regularly download large files. No matter where you drop them, a non-trivial portion of the data would have to be moved to a different physical drive. (I have three drives and I'm preparing to add a fourth)
Feb 14, 2010
You seem to be making an assumption about where the temp directory is stored. One possibility is to store it as a subdirectory of the downloads directory. In any case, that's the easy part of the problem. The UX is the real challenge here.
Feb 14, 2010
@Comment #89 Chrome could (and possibly will) do what every other browser does to handle your situation and allow you to download to specific locations by right-clicking links and choosing where to save to. Also, as mentioned in Comment 88, I think it also suggests the ability to define where to save a temporary file if you want to keep it permanently.
Feb 14, 2010
@89 Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding the current behavior, but when I click a download link with the "Always ask where to save" option enabled, it immediately begins downloading the file to *somewhere* even before I choose where to save. I witness this when I don't react to the download prompt for a long time and when I finally choose where to save, the file is complete already. I presume the same behavior would be present with the open without saving scenario. The file would start downloading immediately when clicked, and then rather than presenting me with a "where do you want to save this" modal dialog, it'll just start saving to the temporary location like it currently does. I would then be given the opportunity to click some button on the download bar (while the file is still downloading, or after it is complete) to save it to a permanent location and the file would be moved to that location (if download is in progress, move existing data to final location and complete download to that location to eliminate the need to move the complete file).
Feb 14, 2010
@90: Actually, I'm just assuming my current behaviour ("Ask where to save each file
before downloading").
Recognizing that, if the file must download completely before I can choose where to
save it permanently, than no matter where the temp dir is, I'm going to end up
waiting for roughly 50% of my downloads to be moved to a different physical drive if
the browser doesn't give me the option to specify the destination before the download
begins.
I'd rather not have to screw around with manually using wget for downloads (assuming
the site allows it) just because it's quicker to open a terminal than to move a half
my downloads because you can't simply relink inodes when performing cross-device
moves.
Feb 15, 2010
I vote for this too. I want a general purpose "open with ..." added to the context menu. I dont want to have to download it, then seperately run a different app to open it. I want chrome to do that for me, so all I have to do is close the app's window, and resume where I left off (envision a page full of PDF links you need to review) I dont want this to force mime-type either, even if the website borked it up and says app/octect-stream, *I* want to be the final say over what app opens the link. And as long as I'm dreaming, I'd like to be able to choose between "run the app, and give it the uri of the link (so it can download it)", and "download the link, then run the app and give it the path to the file)
Feb 15, 2010
In fact, as long as I'm dreaming, being able to override a site specifying a embedded content (eg plugins), and just letting me link directly to the contact, to open a with NON-"plugin" application, would be nice too. The same for sites that want to check to see what plugins you have before letting you have some media - a local override would be nice. "No, I dont have Apples QT plugin - but pretend I do, and just give me the uri to the file and I'll use my non-Apple software to play it)
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Feb 18, 2010
@andy16666 Not sure if you understand how the web works. Every HTML page, youtube video, etc IS saved. It's called the Cache. They're just cleared out periodically, and it's nice and transparent to the user. Some files skip the disk cache (large videos are not cached on disk) but they are still downloaded into memory. In this case Chrome handles them internally with plugins and not external programs so no need to write them to disk. Also I don't have problems with accumulation but I rarely download files I don't intend to keep, and I clean my downloads directory up almost every day. @grayshade I was just throwing ideas out, I personally would not use most of them. Perhaps regex filters on the source url could be used for filtering downloads for more advanced users @jeronimorv If you click the little star you'll get an e-mail every time a new post is added to this bug. @abarth@chromium.org Might be best to just use the download directory itself, and just be careful about what you clean up when doing garbage collection on old files.\ @megadave That's sort of a separate issue, you're taking about Firefox's Applications tab in Options. It would be nice for Chrome to have that sort of flexibility too. You can't really "pretend" to have a plugin though since the way sites check for the plugin is usually to start an instance of the plugin and begin talking to it before opening any media. In addition, the file handled by the plugin may not necessarily be the file you are interested in. For example, flash players usually are just a simple SWF to play external media, specified in a parameter to the SWF. Or maybe the parameter points to a playlist containing a list of urls. Any other plugin can also be associated with a playlist file type with similar unpredictability. It's really impossible to cover all bases. Though AFAIK NPAPI does allow for the browser to tell the plugin "hey, here's the Cache folder, dump files to cache here", or maybe the browser plays a more active role in the downloading I dunno (never worked with NPAPI before).
Feb 18, 2010
@megazzt: I know very well how the web works. I'm a computer science graduate who's been working with web technologies for a decade and a half, and I've written hundreds of thousands of lines of code in dozens of languages consisting of everything from operating system kernels to corporate information systems. Over the years you learn the value of talking about the desired behaviors of software in high-level terms. In fact one of the stupidest things a programmer can do is to go straight to coding before they have a good idea of exactly what they want that code to do. It generally leads to an unmaintainable mess, which unfortunately explains a large portion of the software out there. In this case I think the Chrome developers should be the ones making the choices relating to how this feature is best implemented at the low level, since they are the ones most familiar with the particulars of how Chrome works. Also, personally just because I'm a computing professional doesn't mean that I want to deal with the particulars of low level technologies when I'm doing regular stuff surfing the web, downloading torrents, or viewing PDF files. The ideal behavior here would be for files which are opened by default to be cached temporarily, for exactly the same reason images and you tube videos are cached temporarily. The user can click "Save As" from their application or right click on the link and "Save As" if they want the file to be preserved in a particular location on disk.
Feb 18, 2010
Ok, What seems to be the issue here is that certain people do not seem to realize that various users have differing wants and needs when it comes to a browser. 1. AUTOMATICALLY OPENING FILES: While this is a nice *default* option, there is no sense in forcing this upon all users. For the users that would like to be prompted whether [or where] to save each file, there should be an option for this. Yes, users can right click and "save file as...", but this is not always practical. Many times a user thinks that they are accessing a web page, when in fact the link points to a PDF or DOC file. Without the option to be prompted, the browser would automatically open the file when the user clicks it, forcing the user to close the program and re-download the file via "right click". Alternatively, document links on many sites link to a page with a JavaScript or meta redirect to the document. Right-clicking these links and "saving as" would just download the html page instead of the document. While these may not be an issue to some, it is to others. A quality application takes all user needs into account. 2. TEMPORARY DOWNLOADS: Yes, we all understand that *all* files are downloaded to the computer. However, when using the term "open" instead of "download", people refer to "temp folder downloads" and "permanent downloads". While *you personally* may not have such issues, keep in mind that many people download some files for one-time use and others to access later. Additionally, there are many users who do not understand what happens *behind the scenes* and just want a working web environment. Yes, ideally all users should be aware of how these things work, but they don't and they won't. This is not a "geek" browser. This is an application for all users. 3. MODAL DIALOG ISSUES: Yes, the elimination of modal dialogs is a nice feature. But what harm is putting alternative options in the "settings"? Also, Chrome has done a nice job with eliminating the modality in the login dialog box (i.e. you can still switch tabs while the login prompt is displayed), why not apply that to the download dialog(s). Bottom line, just because you don't have a personal desire for a specific feature, does not meant that it is a bad idea. Chrome is a great browser - faster than any other that I use (and being a web developer, I use all major browsers). Why deprive it of features that are so clearly bothering a significant amount of users?
Feb 21, 2010
Issue 36389 has been merged into this issue.
Feb 21, 2010
abarth@chromium.org: PLEASE do not implement a system like that (files automatically being run). Nearly all the files I download I don't want to run immediately.
Feb 21, 2010
@theodorejb We want a system that let us choose if we want to open or save the file, just like IE.
Feb 21, 2010
abarth@chromium.org: Please DO implement a system to run files automatically. Nearly all the files I download I DO want to run immediately.
Feb 26, 2010
What is going to be implemented is an OPTION to RUN/OPEN files that you do not want to save. NOT automatically opening/running or saving all files. This is the feature I use (well used) the most..Please fix this..it has been a over a year now and all other browsers have it..this feature and the master password feature is the only reason I keep Firefox sadly.
Feb 26, 2010
Please give an option to simply "open" files. I'm using chrome on Fedora 12 and I usually open a lot of PDF's to read, but I only want to save those which are relevant to my work. Incredibly chrome enforces me to manually delete every PDF I don't want, and that is REALLY ANNOYING. The way Firefox handles saving/opening files is a lot better.
Feb 27, 2010
Issue 36975 has been merged into this issue.
Mar 7, 2010
There is a very simple way of fixing this. All that is required is an 'Open' button next to the save button and when the 'Open' button is clicked after a download is initiated, the file is downloaded to the %temp% directory and automatically opened when completed. The save button can still do exactly what it has always done and the options in 'Under the hood/bonnet' can remain exactly the same. That is all that it needs to do, that cannot be hard to implement surely?
Mar 22, 2010
If for some reason the "open" action is not wanted and the "download" action is the only option by design, would be nice at least to be able to move or delete the downloaded files quickly (probably from the download bar). This basically would allow to do somewhat the opposite to what happens on other browsers but with the same result: Other browsers: User opens a file, application X starts opening the temporary copy. - User is not interested in keeping the file (closes the application). - User is interested in keeping the file (save as: from the application, he can define name and location of the saved file). Chrome: User downloads a file and clicks on the button in the download bar, application X starts opening the saved copy. - User is not interested in keeping the file (closes the application, from the download bar he can quickly deletes the file) - User is interested in keeping the file (has to do nothing unless he wants to move the saved file somewhere else, from the download bar can quickly move it). It's a different approach, I am not sure if in practice it would work or would be better than the other browser's way. PS: maybe I am missing something but the revision mentioned in comment 117 doesn't seem to be related to this issue.
Mar 26, 2010
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Mar 26, 2010
This has been going since Sept.2008. When will this be implemented? Its such a simple thing and SO many people want it... How many people commenting does it take for Google to just do it?
Mar 27, 2010
This bug is targeted at Mstone-6. If you're watching our release cycle, you might estimate that Mstone-6 is roughly eight months away.
Mar 27, 2010
Why is it changed from milestone 5 to 6? How many people do you need before you add this 5 minute code feature? Few hundred people who starred this issue isn't enough? Do we need a petition to get Google to spend 5 minutes fixing this? Ridiculous
Mar 27, 2010
Come on guys. Be patient. I know it's the most requested feature but I think it's always been an issue of ui design, not backend code. You can appreciate that such a feature COULD change the fundamentals of how Chrome works (one-click downloads) and can't be implemented without due consideration. Besides, why should they hold up M5 waiting on one feature?
Apr 9, 2010
Why can't this be done through right-clicks, at least temporarily? I.e., * Left click = one click download (as currently done) * Right click = Pop up menu with "Open" action that downloads the file to the temp dir rather than the download dir. That sounds so simple this could even be done with an extension...
Apr 17, 2010
I can't belive how people loses that much time saying the same thing: 1) How this feature is SO important that they can't live without it and are moving to other browsers because of it. (I just find it a bluff) 2) How people say "such a simple thing" or "such a stupid feature".... Have you ever even programmed a calculator? Have you got any remote idea of what does programming this feature mean? Probably not, so please quit the whinning... Instead of saying this stupid things, why don't you say something useful? I doubt google reads this post, but I'd recommend them to do the following tweak until the feature is fully developed and tested for every OS: Since when im currently downloading a file, I have the option to Cancel it, and it deletes the unfinished file, I assume that the ability to delete files isn't hard to implement. So, why don't we put an icon or a contextual item in the arrow that gives the user the option to delete the downloaded file? That way I'd not mind if it's saved in my Downloads folder instead of a Temp folder, because I can easily and effortlesly delete the file, without having to go all the way to the file's folder and manually deleting it. Just my 2 cents
Apr 17, 2010
abarth@ - When fixing this issue (after 5.0 but hopefully BEFORE 6.0 as I have been getting more complaints from my mother about this issue recently..lol), please do not run all downloads automatically. All we want is something simple, the option to RUN/OPEN or SAVE. Thanks in advance.
Apr 21, 2010
Is it not possible to get this done with an extension?
Apr 22, 2010
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Apr 22, 2010
@ddeamilivia 1)Yes, this feature is so important that we can't live without it. I almost switched browsers as well because of this, but I didn't because I'm too lazy to change. 2)Programming a calculator is NOT hard. Unless you use a language that does not have math functions, which I don't think exists, you can program a basic calculator in less than 100 lines. I'm not sure if YOU understand how easy this feature is. 99% of the work is already done. The 1% work is to make a dialog box asking if you'd like to open or save, and just delete the temp file afterwards. It is certainly MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH less hard than implementing the language detection feature that Chrome just got, and this is 100 times more useful. Because I'm still a student learning computer programming, if I am a programmer, I'd GLADLY spend a day adding this feature in. I'm not saying this program takes a day, it just takes a day to read the code and see where to implement it. The actual programming cannot be hard. I see this as a homework, even a test level difficulty question.
Apr 26, 2010
Currently, when I click on a PDF file, it *does* "run" and open the file automatically. It also saves it in my Downloads directory and does *not* show up on my download bar. Basically, this is exactly what I want except the file should be saved to my tmp directory.
Apr 28, 2010
Installed today for reading HTML distance ed materials (on a CD, many links to word doc readings as well as URLs.). Lack of such a function has turned what was a trivial task in firefox/IE into an awkward chore.
May 13, 2010
Can anybody just make this an extension for the time being? I'm not sure if that's possible. One alternate solution would be to make it work like .exes do, and have a prompt right on the download bar for open or save. Open would save to a temp directory and save would save to your default location. You could also have a checkbox saying something like 'don't ask me again,' 'do this action every time,' or something for each different type of file.
May 17, 2010
I can't believe the confusion this request has caused over the months. This is a feature that every other browser I'm aware of has from its very first versions. A lot of folks seem very confused even about what's being asked for, as though none of them have even used another browser before. What's being asked for ? It's not rocket science - Firefox handles it perfectly. Executable files are a special case in Firefox - for security reasons, it only gives the option to save the file. For file types known to be associated with an application, the browser should give a simple Open/Save/Cancel dialog. Open means save the file into temp files, then directly open it with the requested application. Save behaves exactly the same as it does now - you can even keep the 'run on completion' option if you want. Cancel is self-explanatory I hope. Is it needed ? Imagaine this scenario. You try out a new word-processing package. Everything seems to work great. Then you come to print your document, and find that you're expected to 'save' the printout to a file somewhere, then open that file in a separate print routine to print it out to a real printer. Oh, and then you have to remember to delete the file you just saved, as it doesn't do that for you either. Does that sound like a throwback to the 80s anyone ? Now you know why this particular 'feature' of chrome is so annoying to so many people.
May 23, 2010
This has gone on too long. I think the best thing to do is keep the default behavior and add an option to "Open link" in the context menu. Those who want to open instead of save would right click and choose open and those who want to download would continue as normal. It's no longer a method than clicking and then having to choose what to do with the file but at least this way it won't interrupt all user.
May 24, 2010
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Jun 9, 2010
This is going into Mstone-X until we have a UI design that satisfies our other Chrome constraints (not prompting, etc), and it's not something that is currently on our list. We do understand it's a commonly requested feature however so it is possible we'll consider it in the next 6-12 months.
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Jun 21, 2010
Issue 39773 has been merged into this issue.
Sep 14, 2010
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Oct 9, 2010
Issue 58663 has been merged into this issue.
Jan 3, 2011
Issue 68460 has been merged into this issue.
Mar 23, 2011
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Jan 19, 2012
Issue 99284 has been merged into this issue.
Jul 8, 2012
Issue 136178 has been merged into this issue.
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Sep 6, 2012
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Jan 11, 2013
Wow, Started:baueb is very out of date. Moving back to available.
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Mar 25, 2013
Issue 175713 has been merged into this issue.
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Issue 442149 has been merged into this issue.
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