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Product Version : 0.2.149.27
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Add OK or FAIL after other browsers where you have tested this issue:
Safari 3: OK
Firefox 3: OK
IE 7: OK
What steps will reproduce the problem?
1.Adding many tabs.
What is the expected result?
Scrollable tabs.
What happens instead?
Add tab button disappears after a certain number of tabs and the tabs do
not scroll.
Sep 2, 2008
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Sep 2, 2008
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Summary:
UI: tab overflow
Labels: -Type-Bug Type-Feature
Sep 3, 2008
In my opinion, it's much better to have more rows of tabs appear than to scroll. Then you can still see everything that is open. It would also be nice to have the tabs remember the selection order so that closing a tab takes you back to the tab you were viewing previously.
Sep 3, 2008
As far as I know, no other browsers support tab rows - presumably because they would take up huge amounts of screen real estate with lots of tabs open. Scrolling tabs are a much better idea, imho.
Sep 3, 2008
How about both modes, like Firefox 3 with Tab Mix Plus? You can specify the number of rows and if you exceed the number of tabs that can fit within these rows, you get n-scrolling rows of tabs.
Sep 3, 2008
Yeah, the behaviour needs to be changed, not sure how though. Having them scroll and also adding a drop down menu to show all tabs, like in FireFox, might be the best way to go. I don't really think multiple lines of tabs is a good idea.
Sep 3, 2008
+1 Comment 6 by Sam.Derbyshire
Sep 5, 2008
FWIW, Opera has an implementation of multiple tab rows.
Sep 5, 2008
A design note: We are hesitant to impose an arbitrary minimum width on tabs. The UI in other browsers feels very wrong, especially jarring when you need to switch to another kind of UI to manage your tabs. As it stands tabs remain useful until they reach a very small size. We will eventually find a way to improve this but I don't think what's done in other browsers is the right way just yet.
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Sep 7, 2008
agree with 4 and 6, perhaps adding a minimum size to each tab... i often get a LOT of tabs going, like, more than 40. i just open everything up in a tab and close as i go along. lets stuff load in the background and i can deal with it when i get to it. Looking at a lot of tiny mountians sort of makes things.... annoying. I like the way firefox lets you scroll the tabs with the mouse wheel... and i would also like to be able to define if the new tabs be added after the current tab or at the end of the list.
Sep 8, 2008
+1 on comment 6 Firefox gives you a drop-down box where you can see the tab labels, chrome does not have that. It's impossible to find a tab when the titles are not visible. A "down arrow" type of thing on the right of the "+" might be a good place for this.
Sep 8, 2008
There must be sufficient indication *what is in the tab*, nothing arbitrary about that. otherwise you may as well demote them to a submenu or scroll them off the side because you will lose nothing by doing so. What should happen then? There should be < and > at either end so you can scroll them. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Sep 8, 2008
When there are many tabs, a < and > at the ends does not help finding the one tab you want to get to.
Sep 8, 2008
What about setting a maximum number of tabs per window? If you open one more tab a new window is open instead.
Sep 8, 2008
I agree, there needs to be scrolling, tabs so narrow they don't display any information are probably worse than tabs for which you need to scroll to get to. I disagree with the "open a new window if #tabs > X" suggestion because that could leave you with a very illogical distribution of tabs over windows. however it would i think be nice if there was an easy way to split off a large amount of tabs to an extra window. (for instance by holding ctrl -> clicking a few tabs -> and dragging all of them out of the window simultaneously. like you would do with files in windows/linux(/osx?)) A dropdown-list with all tabs would also be nice.
Sep 10, 2008
Comment #12 said "No need to reinvent the wheel,". I personally think that there is room for a new idea here(Or maybe that's because I have a new idea for the wheel. :P). Besides, isn't that what chrome is all about, starting out fresh; trying things differently in an experimental way? I have a few crazy/different ideas. 1: Some kind of dragable and flickable area above the tabs, instead of < and > arrows. This way it'll be more responsive to navigate this virtual plan and wont take much thought for the user, it wont be intrusive. I've never liked the arrows in firefox because it felt like clicking several times to get to the tab that you want takes more clicks then it should. Of course this drag area doesn't have to be visible at all times. For example, in a maximized window it can only be visible when you place your cursor at the very top pixels of the screen. 2: Another idea I had in mind was some kind of visual layout that gives a wide, clear, scope of all the tabs we have up. A while back when a version of Safari came out for windows I thought that it would be cool to have coverflow in as tabs, but that would be pointless eyecandy. But sense chrome stores thumbnails of websites on your local drive then this is could be possible. Coverflow would be a little to intense, for slower computers, so maybe a thumbnail view of some kind with the title above the thumbnail in the tab. Just another idea. 3: Comment #14 mentioned a maximum number of tabs per window, which is an idea I had in mind also. But when a window is full the + button could change into a button which says full and when you click that it'll open a new window, or something like that. This idea isn't so great though because some people will want to have all their tabs scrunched into one window, rather then clutter their taskbar. My point though is that it should be played with to find the most intuitive route that will fit most everyones browsing experience. That's agreeable right?
Sep 12, 2008
Agree with ben at comment 9, not having scroll is a feature, not a bug. Firefox has a bad default, but at least they made it a user preference, here is the first thing I do on fresh installations of firefox: about:config browser.tabs.tabMinWidth = 12 browser.tabs.closeButton = 3 In the case of the second line, Chrome also have the same bad default, but that is a different bug :)
Sep 15, 2008
Although I appreciate the attraction of not having a minimum tab width, there's another piece of UI that gets lost when the tab width is narrow enough - the page loading indication doesn't get shown for the current tab if there is only enough room for the X.
Sep 15, 2008
In my humble opinion, there is a better way to fix this. I have my tabs organized in a hierarchy (or tree) structure (Tree Style Tab extension for FF 3), and instead of on the top they are on the left side of the browser. All new tabs that you open by way of links in the current page will be indented and become children tabs of the current tab. You can expand / collapse trees at will (and under intuitive circumstances it is done automatically). This way you don't need to have all of your tabs visible at once. I've had over one hundred tabs open at once without the need for any scrolling, or resizing of the tabs, and it still didn't feel cluttered. I opened a feature request for this style of tabs to be an option instead of the normal (and imho outdated) model. It's here: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=2319
Oct 20, 2008
Some ideas: 1. Let the tabs get tiny but enlarge the one currently under the mouse cursor. You can drag your mouse across the tab bar to see all the tabs, one by one. As a variation, you could make the tabs gradually enlarge as the mouse comes closer, like the OSX dock. If the mouse is not over the tab bar, enlarge the current tab. When the tabs get really tiny, get rid of the edges and just show a row of icons. If the icons alone don't even fit on the screen, shrink them (but enlarge them when their tab enlarges). 2. Allow multiple rows of tabs but only show the row containing the current tab. When the mouse enters the tab bar, show all the rows, but keep the current row at the top (so it doesn't move). When the mouse moves off the tab bar, hide the rows that don't contain the current tab. Instead of completely hiding rows, you could overlap them, so just the tops of the hidden rows are visible. This gives a visual indication that there are hidden rows but then the current row has to be at the bottom and it will move when the mouse comes near it. Generally not good to have clickable things move when you go to click on them. 3. After the tabs get squished to a certain point, switch to a vertical tab bar. It will be rather jarring to have the whole UI paradigm suddenly switch but it's the most practical option. I don't know why someone would want to have 40 tabs open and not go vertical. Maybe I'm just biased because I use vertical tabs all the time. At least, I did in Firefox :(
Oct 31, 2008
i'd love to see scroll arrows show up which you don't need to click but MouseOver to scroll
Nov 24, 2008
Good idea! I vote for Firefox like behavior (scrollable tabs and arrow button) with some corrections: 1. No need to press on < or > to scroll tabs - let it be just MouseOver with adjustable speed (MouseDown should work too, for PDA for example). 2. Tabs in a popup list should be sorted by time they have been accessed 3. Ctrl+Tab should not select all tabs by they order, it is stupid, I have 50 pages opened and only 5 really active. It should select most recent tabs first, so it will be possible to switch between two-three pages I work with having many other pages still opened. It will be ideal browser if you implement this.
Nov 27, 2008
*Replicated: Please Confirm Issue* I like idea 1 from figaro1111. Similar to Ipod Touch. Also, as far as coverflow or thumbnails, (figaro1111) I think it would be nice and maybe add an option for the user to change which feature based on the user's memory. Another good idea would be the combination of idea 1 by jedediah and progame. Also, a good idea would be scroll on mouseover, but scroll faster if clicked.
Dec 12, 2008
There is something else that goes to this subject and this is the Arrow that shows if you have some downloads on the page. When there are many opened tabs this arrow goes out of the first tab. See attached file.
Jan 7, 2009
You may be interested in a recent blog post about tabs in Chrome. http://blog.chromium.org/2009/01/tabbed-browsing-in-google-chrome.html
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Jan 10, 2009
Issue 6227 has been merged into this issue.
Jan 14, 2009
Running 2.0.157.0 on Vista, Dual Monitors. Monitor #2 is rotated 90 degrees CCW. Only happens when Chrome is in a maximized state. Does not happen on monitor #1.
Jan 14, 2009
I for one dislike lists, perhaps you could have an option as to the default behavior. Personally, I'd like tabs to be scrollable.
Jan 15, 2009
Issue 5566 has been merged into this issue.
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Jan 21, 2009
32-bit Vista. Only happens when maximized.
Jan 23, 2009
I'm totally agree with Comment 11. In addition to scrollable tabs area we need to view tabs title not only by hovering mouse on it. I suggest you to add tabs list functionality to right click event of "+".
Jan 25, 2009
I think that ideas in comments 20 and 22 are excellent. I don't like scrolling tabs.
Feb 3, 2009
I posted on the Chromium blog a while back about this: http://blog.chromium.org/2009/01/tabbed-browsing-in-google-chrome.html#c2234841374545598907 I've finally got round to doing a quick mockup of my ideas. (See attachment link below) Note: hub tabs are tabs from which other "spoke" tabs have been opened using the "open link in new tab" context menu or by ctrl clicking on links. (refer the Ordering section in the main blog post linked to above for a description of how hub tabs currently work in chrome.) Obviously with only 8 tabs it doesn't show much of a space saving, but with more tabs open it would allow much more space for the tabs in the current group of tabs than having all tabs the same size.
Feb 3, 2009
I like the hub and spoke idea, how would they be automatically assigned though? in a similar way to how IE8 colours its tabs?
Feb 3, 2009
ddragoon: hub tabs are already part of the current chrome, it's the reason it switches to the right tab when you close a tab instead going back to the previous tab you were on. See the description of it in this blog post under the "Ordering" heading: http://blog.chromium.org/2009/01/tabbed-browsing-in-google-chrome.html
Feb 3, 2009
I was more talking about the sizing of spoke tabs. IE say I opened a load of tabs from a google reader tab, the google reader tab would stay prominent and the articles I middle clicked would stay as 'minimised' spoke tabs when I clicked away to another hub (for example a forum or something)
Mar 16, 2009
There could be tabs that "drop down". Like, windows merges many windows of the same program in groups. Chrome could merge many tabs of the same website in groups, also.
Mar 19, 2009
We will be doing this as part of the UI fixit. Cole is mocking up some UI for this. Assigning to Glen in the meantime.
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Mar 24, 2009
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Mar 26, 2009
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Mar 26, 2009
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Apr 1, 2009
Hmm, I've read through most, not all of the comments here. Here are a couple of thoughts about a potential way of opening tabs. If there is a "hub" page from which you tend to open all your tabs (say, iGoogle), each new tab opens after the previous one. So, Hub | Tab1 | Tab2 | Tab 3 .... | Tab n (In order of opening time). Might it make sense to reverse this, such that the latest tab was opened first, and successive ones are *prefixed* rather than suffixed to the original tab? Hub | Tab n | Tab n-1 | .... | Tab 1 (In reverse order of opening time). This solves the hierarchy aspect since you know that all tabs opened from the hub start near the original one. Coupled with some sort of scrolling - I personally would find it pretty useful!
May 21, 2009
Issue 12300 has been merged into this issue.
Jul 3, 2009
About the tab listing, how about borrowing safari tab list style? It highlights the tabs that visible at the current window. (Seems that the release version of Safari 4 is taking different approach. The beta, featuring tabs on top, is the one that is taken for this example) Another thing, is to have the tab list access under the tab's context menu (At least inside another level) with similar listing view as above [attachment, bar #4]. May also available when the add tab got click-hold [bar #3]. Having the list inside the application context menu (the one that's having access to task manager) may also increase productivity, such as restoring window at the specific tab [bottom].
Jul 17, 2009
How about having the ability to search the omnibox for the open tabs? Or having them collapse into an alphabetical tab just like searching multiple folders in the paper world - or better yet, collapse them into similar root sites (into the ones that are highlighted as black in the omnibox.)
Jul 17, 2009
ah! I missed that one And to differentiate, use keyword 'tab' or something similar to force searching the tabs *But one thing about consistency: is it ok for omnibox to find the tabs? I was reading the chrome comics a few days ago, and get the idea that "the address bar is now owned by its own tab" (just checked, page 19). So I was thinking it was quite 'out' for a soldier to investigate its officers. **In the other way, well, the 'soldier' is an omnibox, that it should be able to do anything.
Jul 21, 2009
I'm in favour of the Firefox-style of horizontal tab scrolling with a drop down list of tabs to the right (although I don't like the way Firefox scrolls the tabs). Workspaces are another thing to keep in mind when making changes to the tab system. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505214.
Jul 22, 2009
My long comment got erased. Btw, I like the drawer suggestion in glen.84's post. Here's the link http://design-challenge.mozilla.com/summer09/index.html. Here's another suggestion. Attached is a rough photoshop sketch of a scroll bar type navigation for the tabs. Its very rough and a lot of improvement can be made.
Jul 23, 2009
How about a system where the tabs, just like now, shrink to make room for more tabs. Then smoothly grow when the mouse gets near, much like various docks do (http://rocketdock.com/), except only the width should change. If all tabs doesn't fit, they should scroll sideways (equally smooth), perhaps with some arrows or other indicators at the sides of the tab bar, indicating that more tabs is in that direction.
Jul 31, 2009
One thing I've found is that when I have a tab explosion, usually _most_ of the tabs are just throwaway pages I want to read and then close and never look at again; they are essentially temporary bookmarks. Compare to, for example, my gmail, google reader, igoogle, twitter, etc tabs which I switch between and want to be always available to me and ready to use. On my laptop, tab explosions usually result in everything slowing to a crawl, which is annoying. Each tab is ready to go at a moment's notice, the cost of which is that all of my RAM is eaten up. What I think would be nice, now that there is a tab pinning mechanism (at least on Linux -- right click on the tab > "Pin tab") is that all "unpinned" tabs over a certain amount (say, 5 -- may depend on window width) get dumped into an "archive" dropdown menu similar to what Firefox has now. Tabs in the archive are unloaded from memory (but maybe cached on the disk) and are essentially just bookmarks. Opening any of the tabs in the archive moves it to the 5 or so active tabs and moves the rightmost active tab to the archive. When a tab is pushed off the end into the archive, the arrow button should flash orange/red for a moment (or jump up and down or something) to call attention to it) and the tab going into the archive should be smoothly animated into the button. I don't know how that would work for everyone though. I don't know if having your tabs unloaded involuntarily would be a good user experience. I'd be happy to implement this type of system as an extension, but I'm not sure that extensions will be given enough control over things like that as it is now. Crude mock attached.
Aug 1, 2009
CalebEgg, your suggestion is more about handling many open sessions in the Chrome in the entire system, rather than about visually fitting several tabs in a single window. Re your idea: consider starring Issue 11984 , it's much the same to what you propose.
Aug 5, 2009
Hi here's another idea. It will still use the original UI but change once the tabs exceeds the number of allowable opened tabs (Labels that gives hints to what it contains). So instead of creating a new window (which is hard to navigate)this design will create a new parent "tab" that can be renamed, moved and separated into a new window of tabs.
Aug 6, 2009
-1! I wish I could vote against an issue. I really prefer the current behavior. I guess you can categorize the fixes in 3 categories. 1. Take up more screen real estate with more tabs. 2. Hide tabs and require clicking to get to them. 3. Leave it as is, constant screen real estate, can get to all tabs with 1 click. I do think that squishing the tabs extremely small does look unprofessional, but I don't think there's a better solution.
Aug 14, 2009
Hi, great idea though I think this problem was solved with the release of beta 3.0.195.6. What they did was not to disable the add-new-tab button.
Aug 21, 2009
Manual (or semi-automatic) tab grouping would help here too. So I can say - here are my social sites (personal mail, reader, facebook, etc.) here are my sites relating to project 1 (some docs, bugs, etc.) and so on. Tabs opened within the group stay in the group, groups can be named, saved, collapsed, juggled around, degrouped ,regrouped, etc. Whatever the solution is, please no scrolling tab bar.
Aug 21, 2009
(re)Vote for non-scrolling Regarding #58, Also consider the faviconize addon @ firefox. That saves space a lot! (And maybe do some confirmation if the site didn't have favicon.) Link: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3780
Aug 28, 2009
The classic solution to the "too many elements" problem is grouping & nesting. The ability to nest tabs would be really useful. Very often the tabs I'm working with are associated in some manner, and if there is a hierarchical relationship, I should be able to just move one tab "under" another. At a later point, this could become semi-automated, with tabs that were opened from the active tab X appearing "under" the active tab (if there are too many tabs open). Note that "under" doesn't have to mean "always visible". I'm thinking of something very similar to the start menu on non-mac desktop environments, except horizontally situated instead of vertically situated.
Aug 28, 2009
If only it would be easier to move between windows, and if Google Chrome allows multiple tabs to be moved to a new or existing window instantaneously, then I would find it less of a problem when organizing my tabs and browsing experience.
Aug 29, 2009
I like the nesting idea, another solution (though it will still be overloaded at a certain point) is to just show the Favicon of a tab (or at least be able to set a tab that way) because I know my Gmail/GReader/AddictingGames/Lifehacker favicons, that would be a nice feature, maybe say that certain URLs always show up this way, while others don't.
Aug 30, 2009
Another possibility for browsing navigation and organization is the solution in OneNote 2007. They have tabs in the top, and both right and left sides. Maybe we can make the side tabs dissappear or reappear. We can also rename the tabs and search for it in the omnibox. It would also be great if we can save the whole browsing session like a file that we can double click in the desktop to open and Google Chrome would instantly load the previous session instead of waiting for the numerous sites to load again. Then if someone wants to update the site, they just have to refresh the site. This would greatly benefit those with slow connections.
Sep 29, 2009
How about the implementation seen in Safari 4 Beta? (It was taken out in the final release of Safari 4, but it's essentially a shifting view of where you are in the entire row of tabs, as highlighted in white in the spill-out menu on the right.) http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QdU9uvAk5ag/ShxurvoITPI/AAAAAAAAC5E/SFK87NMcdVo/s1600- h/screentabsfestsafarimac.png
Sep 29, 2009
@gordeon I like your idea, but I don't like having to take multiple clicks to get where I want to be. Yes it keeps it compact, but doesn't seem like the best plan. I will put out my idea again to selectively (or automatically via preference) only show favicons, but a tooltip on hover w/ title.
Sep 29, 2009
I would just like for it to be like when I could set my own tab overflow settings in Firefox. I personally would set my Chrome to fit tabs on the top bar until the favicons couldn't fit, and then when that happened, start a second row.
Sep 30, 2009
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Sep 30, 2009
I want to say: "Thank you!" Pinning tabs has now been implemented via Right Click!
Oct 1, 2009
Ok, the right-click "Pin Tab" option is cool, i suppose? But it doesn't solve this issue. Which is the problem with overflow. Now I can pin tabs, but at the cost of completely losing the ability to select the right-most tabs that I have open, save for selecting the farthest one i can click on, and then CTRL+PGUP'ing to the other tabs I can now no longer see. Neat feature. But I would hardly call this a fix for this specific issue. Which I'm guessing it was not meant to address this issue.
Oct 1, 2009
Yeah, I know it's not a complete fix, but it at least lets me see more information on other tabs, since I don't really need the title of my Gmail tab (which is open all the time)
Oct 2, 2009
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Oct 3, 2009
I also like the idea of nested tabs - i.e. hover over a particular tab and a drop- down list appears containing other tabs opened from within that tab. Another idea would be to have a multi-row tab bar, where only the row with your current tab is displayed until you hover over the tabs with the mouse. This would expand the tab bar into multi-row mode, allowing you to easily pick the tab you require. A minimum tab size is also definitely required, as identifying the tab you need is vital.
Oct 3, 2009
Maybe its possible to add multiple tab-rows without compromising workspace. We can do this by showing only the current tab-row and when it overflows a "down", "up" and "all" buttons will appear. Clicking the "down" button would album flip it to the next tab-row (as well as with the "up" button) while maintaining the workspace allocated for tab navigation. And when the "all" button is clicked, a new-all-opened-tab page will appear with thumbnails of the currently opened tabs (similar to the new-tab page).
Oct 3, 2009
Additional Comment: Maybe we could also design the new-all-opened-tab page to have organizational tools like pinning, categorizing, labeling, group-selecting and moving and closing.
Oct 5, 2009
Issue 23792 has been merged into this issue.
Oct 5, 2009
thanks
Oct 8, 2009
I like the idea of #20. When I open a lot of tabs from 1 pages (same domain), I would like Chromium to be able to regroup them in some way (IE does that by color, but regrouping or stacking could be well. As #61 I am frustrated by the fact tabs have to be moved 1 by 1. I propose that if a window becomes unable to display favicons on tabs a new option in context menu of tabs propose to split the window (all tabs before the tab in a first window and the next ones in a new window). 61 20
Oct 8, 2009
i disagree with #20 and #77 i think tabs should not be grouped togethar because i rarely open more than 4 tabs from the same website. I think if this functionality is built in it should be optional or an add-on
Oct 11, 2009
About #20, the implementation was also in opera, only per window basis. I think its good to try (add) tab on the side as a new UI model. As for multi-row tab, there's a disadvantage for it in widescreen, that is reducing the viewport's height.
Oct 12, 2009
That's only a disadvantage for wide-screen if the multi-row tab bar is pinned down. Not if it's one row, and the other rows are auto-hidden until you mouse over them like what was talked about earlier in the second paragraph of comment 71.
Oct 13, 2009
It seems that most people do not recognize that most Windows user are already using multi-row tabs. We just call it by different name - Tabs and Windows. And their location are just separate - one at the top and the other in the Windows Taskbar. If we could only consolidate the two rows then there would be no compromise in screen estate. That'll probably come when Chrome OS comes, but for the meantime, auto-hide multi-row tabs is ok with me. But maybe we can make it more creative than just that.
Oct 14, 2009
Likin' the idea ianpatrickco. Maybe, for Windows7, the ability to show each tab as it's own "window" on mouse over in the taskbar (with option for Flip3d and Alt+Tab), but once too many are open, it would take up too much space, and may be a nuiscance anyway. Maybe it could just be a list of favicons that would change it and become visible on mouse over. But the tab strip has to remain an option for XP/Vista and those who just can't get used to going to the taskbar. But you are right, they should be integrated to work more effectively.
Oct 14, 2009
I don't understand - the whole idea of having a tab bar is to remove items from the taskbar, is it not? The idea that once the tab bar is full it overflows into a new window in the task bar isn't bad, but presumably some sort of extendible tab bar would be better. If I understand correctly the above poster wants to have previews of open tabs when u hover over Firefox in the taskbar. That sounds good, although it would become cumbersome, however isn't that a separate issue? I still believe a simple hover gesture to reveal multiple tab rows is a good option, and would fit with the current interface.
Oct 14, 2009
Well, you see, the idea in Win7 is that you have one icon on the taskbar regardless of how many windows are open. I think this could be applied to tabs as well. See the below photo. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/lifehacker/2009/01/peek.png The only drawback is that this would essentially turn them all into separate windows.
Oct 14, 2009
I think the behavior should be the same in all OS's. Meaning that the solution for this issue should be completely separated from what win7 does.
Oct 14, 2009
Valid point. I have noticed that IE8 Does this though. Good news (for me) here though! https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=6337 and http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10374965-12.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheDownloadBlog
Oct 15, 2009
I'm no artist, but I made a small animation of what I'm thinking. (See attached file)
Oct 16, 2009
Good animation, but in actuality, the second row should extend all the way to the end of the page, Users should also be able to decide at what size (or number) tabs should move to a secondary row.
Oct 16, 2009
I agree with chuff13579 and synderxc - that was pretty close to what I was thinking, although mine took a hint from windows 7, and I had pictured thumbnail previews. Thoughts on that?
Oct 16, 2009
I agree with Chuff13579 and snyderxc. Thumbs up!
Oct 16, 2009
Wow, just thinking about it, this was the *188th* Issue posted out of, I don't know NEARLY 25,0000! This really needs to be worked out.
Oct 17, 2009
Regarding comment #49, maybe we can add a "glowing" effect on the tabs while being typed in the omnibox. This will solve the "same-websites-being-opened-multiple-times- because-I-forgot-there-is-already-one-that-is-opened-since-I-can't-see-the-favicon" issue.
Oct 17, 2009
Check this video out: http://vimeo.com/6712657 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7soM07Y3qNI&feature=player_embedded They are both great ideas for organizing windows/tabs. The second video is ideal for Smart Phones or devices with touch screens. Instead of application icons, we can use thumbnails of open tabs. And it doesn't end there, we could also make it into an infinite zoom out layout! Where it starts from the smallest to the specific. GOODBYE SCROLLS! We can also push the idea further by utilizing the omnibox to search the thumbnails and give it a glowing effect.
Oct 17, 2009
Greatly enjoyed the Vimeo Link, although, I'm not sure how well it would work applied to a single app. For the YouTube, it won't do well. It may be a nice feature option, but it requires multiple clicks to get where you want to go. I want as few clicks as is possible to reach my destination, plus it still doesn't answer the question of where to put tabs. Will they just keep going until off the screen or at 1 pixel visibility? These are the key things. 1. One click navigation 2. Highly visible (and readable) tabs 3. Quick access for the end user. Now for a bizarre suggestion. Wrap around tabbing. I have attached a (poorly done) design of it and attached it. Of course, in the real thing, tabs won't overlap, and it will look better, I have also put in the idea of tab previews on mouse over, since titles would hide. I also include the title in the mouse over (except, as an after thought, the title should be under the thumbnail.
Oct 18, 2009
Nice feedback. For the Vimeo Link, imagine as if the app icons were the thumbnails of the opened tabs, it would be the perfect solution! We could implement it in the NNTP (2 clicks) or in a new tab that we could call Opened Tab Page (OTP) (2 clicks). Nevertheless, I think we are not grounded in reality if we would say that it is possible to create a "One Click Navigation" without compromising Chrome's small screen footprint. Although a work around exist by using an auto-hide-multiple-tab- rows solution (comment #87), I don't think that the solution is ideal given that: 1.) We don't want it to be drop down (comment #27) 2.) nor to be scrolling (comment #27) Auto-hide was my previous ideal solution until I realize that it is the perfect marriage of two of our browsing navigation pet peeves (scrolling and drop down). It would surely end up looking like Windows XP's auto-hide task bar (My eyes! It hurts!). So instead of auto-hide, maybe we could keep the simple one tab row, and just add additional OTP navigation button similar to the NNTP button. The proposed OTP navigation page would act like the NNTP except that it will be the directory of all opened tabs. Also it will fit all opened tabs' thumbnails (similar to attachment) in one screen - so there is no need for scrolling or using drop down menu. We could also combine the OTP with the NNTP if we want to keep only one button next to the tabs (while still having two click navigation). The current tab row behavior would prevail if the tabs do not overflow. Clicking on one set of thumbnails in the OTP would transition the current tabs' row into the selected tabs' row.
Oct 18, 2009
meh.
Oct 18, 2009
@GraemeErickson: Please refrain from useless comments. I like the idea of an OTP, but once they get to a certain size, it would have to turn to a scrolling page or a drag over style (like iPhone). Also, if they get really small, a mouseover larger preview of the page would be ideal, but as mentioned, I really can't wait for Chrome to have the IE8 in Win7 style taskbar mouseover that shows all the tabs!
Oct 23, 2009
Issue 13592 has been merged into this issue.
Oct 26, 2009
Nice input, snyderxc. The mouse-over preview of what the tab holds is a great suggestion. Additionally, I believe it'll takes a hundred Chromeviews (Dynamic Chrome tabs' thumbnails) to cover the whole screen in the Open Tab Page (OTP) and make it really small. MOUSE-OVER a Chromeview and a larger preview of the site appears along side additional site information such as Name, Security certificate, Site date-stamp, Memory and CPU usage and many more. Best of all, browsing options appear when the Chromeview is CLICKED such as Create Application Shortcut, Open in new window/tab, Highlight similar sites, Share, Save session, Refresh... and you name it! These options appear with the preview and sports their very own button logos. Moreover, DOUBLE CLICK the thumbnail and one zips directly to the open tab. Use the omnibox to search and highlight the Chromeviews so you'll never need to load the forgotten-already-opened-site again. (Omnibox still retains its current functionality but adds the Chromeview highlight.) The OTP serves as a better solution to a Win7 style taskbar that would work across platforms. OTP - All tabs just a click away.
Oct 26, 2009
Awesome idea ianpatrickco, but I think a single click should go to the tab, and a right click or cmd+click should bring up the menu you suggested. I think it will be more intuitive that way.
Nov 30, 2009
Hi, for those who are using Windows 7, I found a way to better navigate between Chrome Windows. One must first position the task bar at the top of the screen and auto-hide it. This will make Chrome's multiple windows easier to access without having to go up and down the screen. This is similar to snyderxc's single button idea plus Jedediah's autohide suggestion. This will also allow one to open multiple windows and utilize Window 7's aero peak preview (excluding the tabs). Also when you right-click on the Chrome's shortcut, tasks such as open new or incognito window and recently visited websites appear giving us instant access to commonly used commands. I think these features adds value to Chrome and should be made as integral part of Chrome for the sake of XP users. Maybe we could add these features in the new tab button. (hover [3 sec delay] would show previews of open tabs and open windows and right click would show recently visited websites) Sadly, there is a bug that would prevent the auto-hide taskbar to appear every time I would hover over it. I think it can be solve by having a one pixel space between the top of the screen and the top of Chrome. Try it out! Be open and see how other worlds operate to better improve our own world.
Nov 30, 2009
Issue 29030 has been merged into this issue.
Dec 8, 2009
Hi guys, check out the Vertical Tabs via Chrome Extensions. I think the main problem is solved. P.S. I just wish there was a close button next to the web titles.
Dec 8, 2009
Also check out the TabSearch by stephen.heron in the extensions. It even has a tab search functionality just as some of us have suggested in the Omnibar.
Dec 8, 2009
Issue 29706 has been merged into this issue.
Dec 15, 2009
I've been reading through many of the comments and one thing that strikes me is many of the solutions are adding features when Chrome seems to be about stripped-down speed and productivity. Also, many of the solutions have inherit issues that make them cause more problems than they solve. Horizontal rows build up and take away vertical space, which is where you can least afford to lose it on a display. You'd have to resort to scrolling eventually anyway so why bother with multiple rows? Why not simplify and add some manner of scrolling to start? Vertical bookmarks take up a lot of space and given that a significant portion of users are still using 1,024- pixels wide displays when most websites tend to be static and approximately 960 pixels wide taking away much from either side of a page could result in a horizontal scroll-bar on many sites. Also, there would be a substantial visual jarring when you went from one tab to multiple or in the reverse. Thumbnails is an interesting addition but it does not solve the root issue which is an inability to find the tab you're looking for. While thumbnails are handy if you can visually recognize a site what about when you have multiple pages open that are nearly identical or, even worse, where you've never been to the sites and have no idea what they look like? Besides, this feels more like a gimmick and less like a UX solution given the issues with it. I'm not sure why people have issues with a horizontal tab-bar that, when it reaches a certain width, scrolls in some manner. This is the standard method for every other major browser and thus what users expect anyway. It doesn't suffer from the issues any of the other proposed options have. I think a minimum width can't be avoided, if only for usability reasons. As has already been said when the tabs get too thin you can't tell which tabs have loaded, which are loading, which have crashed and so on. Also, were you to have many tabs where all the text was obscured you'd have to hover over a tiny area in order to get the tooltip to see what the tab is. This last piece alone is enough to be a black mark against not having a minimum width as any user who has issues with fine movements is going to find this exceedingly difficult. It feels as if some of the proposed solutions are ignoring serious usability issues. One of the things I like most about Chrome is that much of it is very simple and user-friendly. It feels like user actions have been thoroughly taken into account to find the best solution for the average user.
Dec 18, 2009
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Dec 19, 2009
@106 Absolutely all the way. One thing extra: leaving this issue for a year without ANY solution is ABSOLUTELY unthinkable to me. We users don't care about "The right way", if there is no way, than ANY way is better!! Please please please add scrolling or list or new row or around-the-edge tabs or something! If you do implement scrolling please have a user-configurable "scroll x" button that will scroll by a user defined number of tabs, where that number would (optimally) be either a % of tabs (in that direction) to scroll by, or a fixed variable (fixed by browser width or tabs visible). It is obvious that this has been a continual issue. Chrome is going in the right direction. Let it default to no scrolling, but in the interest of sensible tab management, let there be something, over nothing, any day this would be infinitely more frustrating than not being able to navigate open tabs, but not much more frustrating than waiting for firefox to scroll at an aggravatingly fixed rate. is there an about:objects key that toggles overflow? Act now!
Dec 20, 2009
I still think the simplest solution would be to have several rows and just hide them until the user hovers over the tab bar. That way, when looking for a tab the user can see them all at the same time. Also, at this point the user wouldn't care about vertical screen space, because they're looking for a tab.
Dec 29, 2009
@109: Having multiple rows would be perfectly fine if only one row was shown at a time. In fashion multiple rows might actually be preferable to a scrolling list because all are shown at once. However, a scrolling list might be quicker to navigate or scan. Does anyone have any usability on which is more scannable? I have a single column is but that's just my initial suspicion.
Jan 30, 2010
Issue 33712 has been merged into this issue.
Jan 31, 2010
There are lots of extensions out there that provides usability for finding tabs and solving this problem. One of which allows us to search for tabs by typing. Please check tabsearch in the extension gallery and share to us your opinions. I personally don't like Firefox's scrolling solution because I need multiple clicks to go to the tab that I need to go to. To solve this, one of my suggestion is to implement the tab search functionality in the omni-box. Searching the tabs thru the omnibar is a maverick solution that no browser has ever tried before. And with the extension tabsearch, we can already visualize how it can work best. Leaving this problem for 1 year do has its benefits. It allows the community to brainstorm and to look for other solutions that will benefit both users and other browsers as well. Besides, I don't think the core team is not thinking for solutions, we can already see tab search functionality in the Chrome OS demo. Head over the Chrome OS UI site for more in depth detail.
Feb 11, 2010
Another thing you have to consider is that, regardless of what solution we end up using, the tab in focus acts as the title bar. I figure this is why other browsers set a minimum width for tabs so that the title text is still readable. This is particularly important in Chrome with its absence of the traditional global title bar.
Feb 17, 2010
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Mar 24, 2010
Hopefully this can be fixed soon...
Apr 2, 2010
Issue 40309 has been merged into this issue.
Apr 25, 2010
Issue 42515 has been merged into this issue.
Apr 25, 2010
@gordeon I think Google Chrome has a global title bar in the form of the Omnibar.
Apr 27, 2010
My opinion:
May 5, 2010
There's currently an overflow bug with opening new tabs when you get to about 56 open tabs. New tabs will overlap the + button and eventually go off the screen where they cannot be accessed.
May 8, 2010
#64 seems like a very nice solution. It solves the big problem with an overflow button (the loss of "context"), and would also IMO introduce the freedom to give the current tab a wider button so we could actually see the damn title.
May 31, 2010
Wow, two years on the problem, must be a hard one. I support Chrome and all that, but I don;t understand the stubbornness to not let people use what they have been using for years. It's basic stuff, like the TITLE in a webpage, which is very importat to a lot of people, and is currently unusable; or the ability to use more than 7 tabs, when I'm SURE some of you developers have this problem yourselves. Why not give as a simple option to have scrolling tabs or multi-row, like all the other damn programs. Fine, default it to the current shrinking- tab-behavior, I don't care, just let us browse a few tabs at once please. Thank you.
Jun 9, 2010
Ok, master developers! If you don't want to include scrollable tabs as default feature, make it optional! Allow user to choose!
Jun 11, 2010
maybe when side tabs will be available this should be fixed with auto switch to side tabs with n° of tabs open greater than a certain number...
Jul 21, 2010
I prefer the current behaviour - in general if I have a lot of tabs open I know around about where the one I want is. Scrolling tabs make it hard to quickly open a tab in the vicinity of the one I am looking for. Multiple rows take up too much space in my opinion. The biggest issue with scrolling tabs is they give you no sense of where in the row of tabs you are. To help visualise this open chrome as a non-maximised window. In this view there is a gap between the top of the tabs and the top of the window. I think a thin (3 or 4 pixels high) bar above the tabs with a shaded section would solve this. The shaded section should indicate the region of tabs you can see in the tab bar. Clicking anywhere on the bar should open the tab that corresponds to that point. Obviously the shaded section will move to show the new region of tabs you can see. The number of tabs you can see at any one time should be an option. The only issue with this is that when chrome is maximised there is no space between the top of the tabs and the top of the window, it might be worth squeezing the UI elements at the top a bit to fit this in or just shifting them down. I think the benefits outweigh the small amount of extra screen real estate it requires.
Jul 23, 2010
New Tab concept from Firefox - they call it Tab Candy: http://vimeo.com/13560319 I think we can make something better than that and call it Tab Google =)
Jul 27, 2010
Issue 50343 has been merged into this issue.
Jul 27, 2010
Ok if you guys watched this http://vimeo.com/13560319 from firefox, you'll find out that it's basically a compilation of most of the suggestions here as well as more. Anyway, due to boredom, I decided to make a new mock up with some of Tab Candy's feature. Please refer to the attached image: 1. Assume that you can only fit four (4) tabs in one window. This is to simplify the 60 or less tab limitation. 2. You wanted to group the tab into groups to better manage your workplace. Instead of dragging your tabs out into a new window, now you simply drop them into your existing desired "mother" tab. 3. To push the idea further, instead of you manually grouping the tabs, how about if Google Chrome automatically groups tabs based on it's mother (from where it was born - or where the link was clicked on)if it exceeds the maximum allowable tab number. When the number of child tabs grows large, it simply turns into a "group of tabs" single tab where it will expand or fan out when the mouse is over. Users can also simply drag it out and it'll turn into a Window with tabs. This would be similar to Firefox's alpha tab candy. 4. Like in Tab Candy, you can rename the "mother" tab. However, we would go a step further by allowing users to search the mother tab using the omni bar. In order to search mother tabs, the user would have to add the following advance search tags in the omnitab: gtab:<group_tab_name> tab:<tab_name> When users search using this, the firefox tab candy mode will come into play and show a search result while at the same time adds a glowing shine to the tab - similar to Apple Dock's Interface. Extra notes: The mother tabs themselves group together if they exceed the limitation.
Jul 28, 2010
How about the idea of being able to group tabs. basically folders of tabs. so on left would be a row of folders, this row would have an expand and minimize button. u click the folder and on top the tabs change to whats in the folder, allowing you to cluster tabs, meaning u could throw social tabs in one folder, mail in another, and 20+ or w/e quick reads in another, if u want to close your quick reads, you'd right click the folder they are in and choose close.
Jul 29, 2010
Issue 50501 has been merged into this issue.
Jul 29, 2010
@cutiecash I think the folder concept has already been implemented on the bookmark section.
Aug 2, 2010
I definitely think the way to is just add a drop-down menu to the end of the tab bar; there's no need to over complicate the solution to this one.
Aug 23, 2010
I am working with the design leads to find a solution to this.
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Aug 23, 2010
I love the idea in comment #22 point 1. I really think it's most in line with the Chrome simplicity ethos. It requires the least amount of steps in terms of user interaction. It'd require the least amount of addition to the user interface (or none, really), and I personally think it would be the most visually attractive.
Aug 23, 2010
Just an addendum to the above: The user isn't doing anything new that they weren't already doing anyway, i.e. hovering over the tab bar. So it's quite intuitive - the tab width simply expands on hover and shrinks to normal on mouse out, with the active tab widened by default. One possible issue would be how this interferes with the closing of tabs, because tab widths change when this happens (as explained at http://blog.chromium.org/2009/01/tabbed-browsing-in-google-chrome.html under the heading "Cleaning Up"). Perhaps the only option here would be to switch to uniform width temporarily when in "tab-closing mode"?
Aug 24, 2010
One more thing - in the event of scrolling tabs, it might be useful for this to happen on hover as well, according to where along the tab bar the cursor is. Again, no new interface elements needed, and the user doesn't need to learn as much. This kind of idea, for example: http://valums.com/files/2009/menu/final.htm The issue here would be sensitivity, in the case that a slight cursor move of one pixel might shift the tab bar very far, if lots of tabs are open - it would get harder and harder to specify a certain tab. But there would need to be about 100 tabs open for this to be the case...
Aug 24, 2010
I currently like the ability to 'tear' off a tab into a new window with a mouse drag. If you implemented this nested / grouped pages tab idea, it would be great if tearing off a group tab resulted in the automatic expansion of the member pages into normal 'top-level' tabs. A mouse over on a grouped tab should also result in a drop down menu of the titles of all the member pages. And while you are messing about with how tabs behave, have you thought of implementing a slide down layer that would allow people to work across more than one page without a new window. There would be an implicit peg point half way down the browser window. If you select a tab and drag it while keeping the mouse key down, the page would slide down the screen to the half way point with a second tab bar at its top. The user could slide tabs up and down at will and navigate tabs within each bar as usual. There would also be a shift select option to allow the action on groups of tabs. For simplicity there would be no bookmarks or buttons or address field on the bottom half. Any action in those areas would affect the currently active tab - visual cue needed: throw a bold blue border around the currently active tab when the mouse moves over those bars. But there would be a single button that would slide all the bottom tabs back in one go - a return to full screen action. You could also visualise the 'peg - point' and allow the user to adjust it within a range (say .25 to .75) of the available window. This would be fantastic on small form factors (pads, laptops, netbooks) where working with two pages at once can require a high 'memory load' when you are using content in one page, say an article, to inform action on another, say a blog in which you are critiquing said article. Going back to my suggestion of an auto-expansion of a group tab being implicit in a tear-off action, it may also be useful if a slide-down action on a group tab had the same effect. There are saturation points for any behaviour that attempts to handle multiple open pages. I think there is a point where the browser designers just shouldn't bother with anything more elaborate that a 'more...' tab on the right that can show a drop down on mouse over. Past a certain point users just have more tabs open than anyone can pay attention to. It's analogous to window clutter on the desktop. Any UI helper behaviour will reach a point of diminishing marginal returns. Finally - have you considered a 'squish-override' - give me a simple way to unsquish a tab. There is currently no double-click action on a tab. Why not just expand the title of any tab I double click and leave it expanded until I double click it again.
Aug 25, 2010
http://codereview.chromium.org/3204007/show Not a perfect solution but a useful one.
Oct 4, 2010
3 things i'd like to have: scrollbar, resize line for sidetabs and move new tab button from sidetabs bar to the main toolbar
Oct 22, 2010
i haven't read through all of the comments here so i don't know if this was mentioned or not, but what about having tabs get bigger when your mouse gets close to them? sort of like the magnification thing on the dock of OS X?
Nov 21, 2010
I don't know about you guys but I actually prefer if the tabs were something like ObjectDock (or the mac icon doc) where the tabs will expand when you get close to it.
Nov 23, 2010
I hope Google UI team takes a look at the new "Tab Stack" feature on Opera 11. This would be a great solution to the problem on Chrome. It's like Tab candy only better.
Dec 6, 2010
+1 to the tab stack in opera, although its not perfect, it has ALOT of potential, i always thought tab candy was a little over the top, but tab stack is a perfect solution to tab overflow!
Dec 8, 2010
The problem with ObjectDock like feature is that you can't have the close functionality with it. Once you've moved your cursor away from the center to the x button to close the tab, a new tab would be focused. This is especially true when you have hundred of tabs open.
Dec 8, 2010
Just watched Opera's Tab stack and I'd say it's awesome. It shares some of my suggestion on comment 129 but Opera's is more polished and functional. We can one up it by offering the possibility to group not just tabs but also stacks of tabs indefinitely XP Also, I think that private browsing and none private browsing tabs should not warrant separate windows - similar to Opera's.
Dec 18, 2010
I'd like the option to have rows of tabs, myself. Either that or have the option to close all windows at once and have all of them restored with their tabs the next time I start Chrome. Currently my browser is unusable with more than 35 tabs because either (a) The tabs get too small for even an icon to be displayed or (b) I have to open another window and the tabs from whatever window I close first won't be saved.
Dec 28, 2010
Optional rows of tabs (with definable minimum width for a single tab) would be really nice — sometimes you have to open a lot of tabs and select them in random order (e. g. when reading HTML documentation with separate files for sections).
Jan 23, 2011
Issue 70542 has been merged into this issue.
Jan 30, 2011
a very basic and important feature. it bothers me every day.
Feb 18, 2011
issue 467 referring to the same problem while issue 24080 is this bug linux manifestation
Mar 17, 2011
Issue 13592 has been merged into this issue.
Mar 18, 2011
Product Version : 0.2.149.27
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<b>Other browsers tested:</b>
<b>Add OK or FAIL after other browsers where you have tested this issue:</b>
Safari 3: OK
Firefox 3: OK
IE 7: OK
<b>What steps will reproduce the problem?</b>
1.Adding many tabs.
<b>What is the expected result?</b>
Scrollable tabs.
<b>What happens instead?</b>
Add tab button disappears after a certain number of tabs and the tabs do
not scroll.
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Apr 8, 2011
What is the expected result? what the user CHOSE. I'd choose a multi-row tab bar just because I have a big widescreen AND I like having two windows side by side at once. This renders scrolling/non-scrolling/vertical tabs pretty useless.
Jun 8, 2011
I like how Firefox does this. I don't understand those who are saying having a "forced" minimum width to tabs is jarring. How so? Firefox's scrolling tabs and minimum length works perfectly for me because I close tabs as I move along. The minimum width allows me to always be able to see the contents "name/title" in the tab--which is not the case when using Chrome. I always open Firefox when I'm going to be opening multiple tabs because: 1.) I do not get a prompt asking me to confirm that I want to open multiple tabs. 2.) Minimum tab width and scrolling tabs makes moving through the tabs easy and effortless. When Chrome starts shrinking tab width, I can't tell what the tab contents are. It makes it tough to use Chrome when dealing with multiple tabs that start shrinking. I vote for minimum tab width with scrolling like Firefox. I'm interested in hearing exactly what is wrong with "forcing" a minimum tab width though. I find Chrome's implementation of increasingly shrinking tab widths to be jarring. I have had zero problems with the way Firefox does it.
Jun 11, 2011
I voted for this, but what I really want is multi-row fixed width tabs, which fixes the same issue. But, this might be against Chrome design principles, so it might be a solution to make multi-row tabs an extension, and scrolling tab bar the default. But please somehow bring in multi-row fixed width tabs!
Jun 30, 2011
Firefox's solution by far makes the most sense. Having the tabs get infinitely smaller is just not usable, the tab should have a minimum width that is easily readable and clickable. Firefox's solution reduces clutter and lets you have a massive amount of tabs open without things getting too overwhelming. I'd be interested to know why having a minimum width is "bad" as well.
Jul 9, 2011
Why can't you just give us multiple tab rows???? Clearly many people want it!
Jul 12, 2011
Issue 89119 has been merged into this issue.
Jul 13, 2011
Issue 89172 has been merged into this issue.
Jul 26, 2011
I think Firefox Panorama - the best solution. The same would like to see in Chrome
Aug 1, 2011
What about implementing Firefox's solution AND add multi-line tabs as an option? (Like Opera does).
Aug 2, 2011
I hate firefox's min-width restriction on a tab and prefer chrome's action to shrink the tab. +1 for Firefox Panorama view and allow invoking it on holding [ctrl] + tapping [tab].
Aug 16, 2011
I think adding options in preferences for a user to choose which tab management scheme they want to use would be the best solution. That way everyone is happy, and chrome would still get to keep its default look and feel. I would vote for the options being: Default - the current tab scheme Scrollable - like the way firefox is by default Multi-Row - such as the way tab mix plus for firefox behaves and automatically adds up to a set limit number of rows (and then scrolls the rows when there are too many tabs for the rows open) Multi-Row with autohide - such as has been suggested before where only one tab row is displayed until a user mouseovers the tab bar, then more rows are displayed and i'm sure other users have more management schemes they could suggest
Aug 26, 2011
How does the "side tabs" flag work? I would check, but chrome://flags is currently not working for me.
Oct 3, 2011
If Chrome isn't going to include a tab list, why not optimize the tab bar to avoid long rows? Here's a quick mockup I made showing how can you decrease the screen space of tabs by sorting them by domain (one of many possible defaults). Even just being able to move open tabs into a scrollable list container would be a huge improvement.
Dec 17, 2011
I would like to mention that the experimental side tabs feature which was recently removed, is the only usable solution to this problem that I have seen suggested here. So much so, in fact, that I and many others actually used it. I have included a screenshot for reference. Almost all of the options mentioned here actually conceal overflow tabs rather than exposing them, which defeats the entire purpose. There is a reason that drop-downs for interfaces and navigation are considered a usability nightmare. The rest of the suggestions serve to limit valuable vertical space, which has always been highly valued in Chrome. If you haven't noticed, I am a bit biased toward side tabs. I used them and they were hands-down the best solution available for Chrome. Please give them serious consideration as a solution to this very real problem.
Dec 26, 2011
Multirow is a killer feature of the Firefox's TabMixPlus, it would be great to see it implemented in the Chrome.
Dec 26, 2011
Optional multi-row tabbar would be extremely appreciated!
Dec 28, 2011
Issue 105857 has been merged into this issue.
Dec 28, 2011
Why not implement something similar to opera's tab stacking? When the tab bar is saturated enough tabs from the same site could be stacked into a single tab. Users could also manually stack tabs.
Dec 30, 2011
Vertical tabs was definitely the way to go with multiple tabs. Unfortunately this feature was removed recently. Please vote to return it back. http://www.change.org/petitions/google-chrome-support-vertical-tabs https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=100319
Jan 7, 2012
I don't know a single chrome user how isn't frustrated by the lack of tab functionality. I've added a longer reply in http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=71e599f176315a29&hl=en&start=80 since I think it might be reasonable to look into something like contextual grouping (nobody would want to label their tabs, but it would be easy enough to mouse-drag them to group them) which could be superior to normal tab rows. and definitely, this should get more attention...
Jan 20, 2012
Good God Chrome developers... Implement multi row tabs already, how hard can it be? Stop being so 2004.
Jan 31, 2012
+1 for multi-raw, all people who works in web keep open pages, and have more then 20 pages open always.
Jan 31, 2012
Anything less than the ability to have multi-line tabs is unusable
Feb 19, 2012
Please add the ability to show tabs on multiple rows. My most common browsing habits involve having a dozen or more tabs open at once, and Chrome simply makes that unmanageable. I simply cannot switch to Chrome without this feature, as much as I'd like to give up Firefox for the otherwise-superior Chrome.
Feb 20, 2012
Happy to help out on implementation as soon as UI has a final spec.
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Feb 21, 2012
Why not implement something like what is done in the Chrome Beta for Android? I found that it's a good way to manage tabs. You can have it so groups of overflowing tabs on both sides clump together and clicking the edge moves over . Right now, its impossible to view tabs on the right or make out the names of the tabs that are visible. Some functionality is better than none and I'm surprised that its been more than 3 years without this issue being addressed.
Mar 14, 2012
I can't believe this issue is more than three years old, in the intervening period they implemented the ideal solution to this issue (vertical tabs, enabled by explicit user action) and the *discarded the idea* with virtually no explanation, and completely refuse to even discuss the issue any more. Every feature request for "vertical tabs" is closed, despite getting hundreds of votes in just a few months. This thread has been around *3 years* and has less votes and comments than every vertical tabs thread. Is there some overlap among those users? probably I know I'm one who has posted in multiple threads, but mostly it's because I'm so thoroughly disgusted. Is it really taking 3 years to develop a a way for a user to specify a minimum tab width? 90% of the comments in this thread are asking for the user to have a choice. Here's a novel concept: why not make the tab bar a canvas that plugins can access? then all chrome has to worry about is painting the tab bar. Want vertical tabs? write a plugin to display the tab bar vertically. Want scrolling tabs with a minimum width? write a plugin! want your tab strip to grow to multiple rows? Plugin! Then the user can load whatever plugin style )or styles) suit him or her in the moment. This isn't rocket science, people.
Mar 23, 2012
Multi-Row tabs is not the answer. That creates clutter. You need to limit the window to a certain number of tabs based on the person's resolution, after which point, the next new tab you open, actually opens in a new window. Any new tabs you open from the window open in the newly created window. Then you need an option to quickly jump between windows.
May 3, 2012
> Multi-Row tabs is not the answer. That creates clutter. You need to limit the window to a certain number of tabs based on the person's resolution I'm sorry, but that's a ridiculous solution for a non-problem. You can add a vertical scroll buttons for rows of tabs like it's done in TabMix+. Number of rows that are displayed simultaneously should be configured, at least through an extension script.
Jun 11, 2012
Tab Mix Plus 4 Firefox works great need this feature in chrome to switch browsers
Jun 30, 2012
You guys has just released chrome for iOS and on the iPad, you have overflow of tabs handled beautifully. Please just do a copy and paste and I'll be happy. This is one of the issues preventing me from moving over to chrome.
Jul 12, 2012
> Multi-Row tabs is not the answer. That creates clutter. The problem I am seeing over and over in this thread is this: Who are you to tell me what is clutter on my screen? Who are you to determine how I might be most productive? It seems like the developers here are taking their own very limited view of what works best for them, and honestly expect that everyone else should see the error of their ways and follow the developers' lead in "best practices". In the end, it sounds more like a religious cult rather than an intellectual discussion of a technical issue. Please understand that for many aspects of a typical browser (not just the tab bar), there are multiple ways to handle the same situation. What works best for one user may seen completely insane to another user. Just because a solution looks great on your fancy cell-phone does not mean this is the right solution to apply to desktops. Just considering tabs in firefox, there are plugins for multi-row, vertically scrolling rows, pop-up windows, and grouping tabs. If there was a 'best' way to handle tabs for everyone, we would not be seeing such a diversity in available solutions! I tried chrome today because of recommendations, and I have found that I simply cannot work without having clear multi-row tabs. I'll be watching this issue, but from what I have seen, this is the one and only problem that prevents me from switching and really giving chrome a good workout.
Jul 16, 2012
> you have overflow of tabs handled beautifully If you're on windows trying enabling 'Stacked Tabs' in about:flags.
Jul 16, 2012
Comment 191: first two paragraphs are absolutely spot on. The developers' presumptuousness on this matter has been astonishing. Sometimes I honestly wish Chrome was shareware so that devs would give a damn about their user base and lose the elitist attitude and/or naive non-conformism. To be fair, not all chrome devs have this attitude (eg Comment 183) but enough of them do to hinder progress on this.
Jul 16, 2012
Comment 193: I am tl;dr on this thread, so I am not quite get what's wrong with open source vs shareware. You're free to work on a patch on if you keen to invest some money - hire somebody to provide the patch for you.
Jul 24, 2012
Issue 137239 has been merged into this issue.
Aug 21, 2012
Honestly this is the absolute primary reason I do not use Chrome, and the reason everyone I know who does not use Chrome refuses to use it. It's ridiculous to imply, as some developers have, that adding a couple of different display modes for tabs (i.e. scrollable, vertical, multi-row) would suddenly make Chrome some horrendous piece of bloatware. I understand that the team wants to get the feature "just right" when they finally decide to release a solution. However, I hate to tell you this Google, but it's been nearly four years for God's sake and there is still no solution! In my opinion (and I think many others' too) having some way to use large amounts of tabs that is, in your opinion, "less than perfect" while you develop your end-all be-all solution is necessary. Chrome has developed a reputation for being a stable, well-designed piece of software, but I mean look at the behavior when you open many tabs! You call that elegant? You call that well designed? It's a blaring issue in your software! The Stacked Tabs experimental feature is a great step in the right direction, but it still falls short of other implementations. If you could just add mousewheel scrolling for it so it works kind of like Cover Flow, then I think I could manage.
Oct 9, 2012
LOL This request is 4 years old and still nothing has been done about this feature. Wow, Google chrome developers, amazing progress. Just make an API for the tabs so that extension developers can make extensions for tab IU. The extension developers will solve this problem in a couple weeks, after Google couldn't improve tab IU for 4 years. roundofapplause
Oct 10, 2012
I have for years been a die hard Firefox power user, because it was a work horse. I had myself convinced that I could put up with it being slow, laggy, and as one user on here aptly put it, clunky, because I could customize it however I wanted. I'm giving chrome an honest try this week, and I love almost everything about it. Despite missing some of the customization, I consider it better in every way besides the (lack of) solution to tabitis. I keep ~10 tabs open constantly, and often get upwards of 50-100. Now I'm not going to get upset with Chrome developers, or make sarcastic remarks, or even ragequit like half of the other users on here, because they've created a great product that I'm really starting to love- but these tiny tabs are killing me. Some people suggest more windows, but I can't imagine more clutter than flipping back and forth between windows trying to find the one tab I want, when there's often no correlation between each tab to base a grouping off of. I prefer not to use vertical tabs, because I like my horizontal screen real estate. I loved the rows of tabs that tabmix plus on ff offered, because all of my tabs were in one spot, and I could easily scroll through them to find what I needed-but that's only my preference. One fix will not work for everybody. That can't be understated. Do not tell me, random user whocares@gmail.com, that I need to use more windows. I do not want to. Same as the user from comment 191, I want a choice. That being said, I went to about:flags and enabled "Stacked Tabs." Many thanks to the developers, this will make Chrome usable for now (I can see the tab titles now, yay!), but if the they are listening (this thread is probably a long running joke with them), a better way to scroll (like using the scroll wheel?) would be nice, so that I don't have to aim for the tiny little 'stacked' tabs poking out.
Oct 10, 2012
I have for years been a die hard Firefox power user, because it was a work horse. I had myself convinced that I could put up with it being slow, laggy, and as one user on here aptly put it, clunky, because I could customize it however I wanted. I'm giving chrome an honest try this week, and I love almost everything about it. Despite missing some of the customization, I consider it better in every way besides the (lack of) solution to tabitis. I keep ~10 tabs open constantly, and often get upwards of 50-100. Now I'm not going to get upset with Chrome developers, or make sarcastic remarks, or even ragequit like half of the other users on here, because they've created a great product that I'm really starting to love- but these tiny tabs are killing me. Some people suggest more windows, but I can't imagine more clutter than flipping back and forth between windows trying to find the one tab I want, when there's often no correlation between each tab to base a grouping off of. I prefer not to use vertical tabs, because I like my horizontal screen real estate. I loved the rows of tabs that tabmix plus on ff offered, because all of my tabs were in one spot, and I could easily scroll through them to find what I needed-but that's only my preference. One fix will not work for everybody. That can't be understated. Do not tell me, random user whocares@gmail.com, that I need to use more windows. I do not want to. Same as the user from comment 191, I want a choice. So my plea to the developers: Please let me have that. You don't even have to code it. Just enable tabs to be customized by extensions, there's people lined up out the door who would love to code it for us, because they, like me, and the many who have commented here, just want a choice. I guarantee you'll see a mass conversion of users like myself before you can say 'goodbye sawtooth tabs.' That being said, I went to about:flags and enabled "Stacked Tabs." Many thanks to the developers, this will make Chrome usable for now (I can see the tab titles now, yay!). If the developers are indeed listening (this thread is probably a long running joke with them), a better way to scroll (like using the scroll wheel?) would be nice, so that I don't have to aim for the tiny little 'stacked' tabs poking out. Just sayin.
Oct 23, 2012
Why not just do it *exactly* the same way that Firefox currently does it? Minimum width tabs, nice sideways scrolling behaviour (great with newer mice), and a nice drop-down list of all tabs when needed. We know Firefox's way works with many, many tabs, it looks fine, it quite usable. There's no need to create some fancy new scheme, but there is a pressing need to deal with the absolute mess that is > 20 tabs per window. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Mar 10, 2013
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Jun 26, 2013
Issue 245201 has been merged into this issue.
Sep 23, 2013
Sorry, but I couldn't bother to read the entire thread, so sorry if this has been proposed before. This is my proposal, and in my opinion the best approach to tab managing. A "tab manager" button is added to either the tab bar or the tool bar. When you click on it, a floating dialog is displayed. This dialog contains a matrix of tabs, grouped in bars of tabs. Older bars are stacked in the bottom, whereas newer are in the top. You may scroll vertically to browse through the bars. Whenever you point at a single tab, it'll be highlighted and a tooltip will immediately pop up containing the full tab title. Whenever you click at any tab, the bar containing such tab will replace the current one at the tab bar, and the tab that was clicked will become the currently displayed tab in the browser. Afterwards the "tab manager" dialog should automatically close. It'd be useful too if such "tab manager" would allow the closing of single tabs, entire bars, as well as all tabs. And ideally tab ordering, by dragging and dropping. This approach would be in most cases as fast as tab scrolling in FF, or even faster. You have to click once in an arrow to scroll in FF to find a tab out of scope. You'd have to click once as well in this "tab manager" to display a lot of tabs at once. Then you'd click on the tab of your choice in both cases. There might be the case in this approach where you wouldn't find your desired tab upon opening the tab manager dialog, which would force you to scroll through it to find it, adding one more step to the process than in FF, but I believe this is negligible as more tabs would be displayed at the same time in this approach compared to FF approach, and probably it will be a much faster and more comfortable approach to finding a given tab in most cases. If the devs decline to accept this approach, then I guess this is something I'd like to see implemented in any browser, so I guess I'd propose this to Mozilla devs. Regards, oxi P.S.: sorry about the awful design, but I suck at that, and I'm sure you get a rough idea
Oct 22, 2013
I'd just like to point out that Chrome already has a minimum tab width. Being able to scroll across to the tabs extending out to the right would be nice, but I'd actually be sorry to see the minimum tab width raised (except perhaps if it were to always display the favicon).
Jan 15, 2014
Why don't you make an option somewhere for minimum tab width? Leave the behaviour as you have it now to default, but make an option to do it firefox style. I would be happy if I could at least see the icon of every tab. Having no icons at all is just horrible.
Jan 30, 2014
Please at least add the option to do it the way FF does! How many Chrome users need to make this request before it gets implemented? Every time I try to come back to Chrome from FF, this sends me right back to FF.
Mar 6, 2014
I think Chrome could take a cue from SublimeText 3. The tabs in SublimeText are almost identical to Chrome's, with tab stacking enabled. The difference is you can scroll through tabs in ST3 just like Firefox. In addition, there is a tiny, unobtrusive down arrow on the right side next to the tabs. Clicking this presents a list of open files and allows very quick and easy switching. There is also a left/right scroll button on the left of the tabs. That one I could take or leave, but the dropdown button is very useful, as is scrolling.
Mar 29, 2014
Why Google is ignoring this request? A lot of people would like to see that multiline feature, and they just ignore us !!!
Mar 31, 2014
It's just the same with closing all tabs without warning on clicking the close button. Ultimately, they could easily implement those features, but choose not to because it's Chrome, not Firefox, and according to the devs, those FF features have "problems" (not that anyone would actually describe them) and they're working on reinventing the wheel themselves. And by that I mean, in several years they've made no progress whatsoever on these issues, and likely never will. Even if they have legitimate design gripes with notifications and tab scrolling, and they actually were taking all this time to design something without such problems, the best approach to this would be to temporarily implement FF's behavior until they can come up with something better to replace it. And, yet, instead, they do absolutely nothing to help people affected by them.
May 18, 2014
Just give us the fucking vertical tabs (side tabs) back! I'm sick and tired of this shit!
May 19, 2014
Restricting comments to those with Edit permissions for the time being. I assume the design leads will unlock once they have something they want to share here. Until then, I'm sorry that we don't have any kind of tab overflow solution for super-heavy tab users out there. I wish I was posting on here with news that the design leads have a spec and we're going to implement it. Unfortunately, until that happens, more posts on this bug are only going to make the relevant people tune it out.
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Aug 31, 2014
Issue 409471 has been merged into this issue.
Apr 22, 2015
Issue 152956 has been merged into this issue.
May 22, 2015
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