Sendeler, now when you write SMS longer than 3x160 characters it is automatic
converted to MMS. Look at this enhancement issue and star it if you want:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2318

I have the same problem than sendeler.
The problem of the issue 2318 is on the number of sms to convert on mms.
This problem (2719) is that the letters are not correctly sent. 
The message is unreadable. And I don't know if it's important but the letter counter
do not count until 160 but 60, so if I write a sms with 70 letters, I see on the text
entry 10/2 instead of 70/1.

Is it a problem of encoding due to French accent?

Same problem here with a bad character encoding in long SMS. The end of messages are
squares, numbers and other various characters.

My handset is HTC Magic (with Google) and my carrier is SFR (France) :
Firmware : 1.5
Buil number : CRB43

Please take a look and tell us if you need more informations to manage this issue.
Best regards,

Same problem, I have HTC Magic from Vodafone Spain and when I send long SMSs, 
recipients get some unreadable squares at the end of the text.

I think this is an important issue.

I have the same problem.
HTC Magic bought to SFR in France.
A coworker warned me that one of the messages I sent to him was more like herogliph
than latin alphabet.
But I understood that the entire message was wrongly encoded.

Hello,

I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use an HTC Magic and my carrier is SFR (France). 

Thanks in advance to work on the resolution of this problem.

Hello,

I have the same problem.
The only workaround is to split the message (less than 160 letters).
I use an HTC Magic and my carrier is SFR (France).

Thanks in advance to work on the resolution of this problem.

Same for me with long SMS (more than one) : the end of message is squares...
I'm in France, with HTC Magic, carrier SFR.
Thanks

Hi,

I'm also using the HTC Magic in France with SFR.
I encountered this issue a couple of times already and for each of them it was when I 
wrote a long sms, the end of the message happen unreadable to my recipients.

Thanks in advance for your consideration.
Regards

Same problem with HTC G1 in Belgium (Proximus).

My message was containing french characters (like "ô" and "é"), and it seems to
trigger a weird behaviour : message truncated and end of the message was full of
special characters...

Could it be fixed sooner ? It prevents to use European languages in SMS...

Is there any way to have this issue reviewed or validated by someone in the Google Team ?

It's really a pain in the a** in the everyday use...
Thanks guys :)

Same problem with HTC G2 in France (SFR)

Same problem with HTC G2 in France (SFR)

Same problem with HTC Magic (France, SFR). Futhermore, some characters, like "ê",
transform the message in MMS.

Same problem with HTC G2 in France (SFR) when writing long sms...
That's really annoying. Please fix it soon.
Thanks

Same problem with HTC G2 in France (SFR)

HTC G25 @ SFR, France : same problem, seems to be related with the number of
accentuated chars in the message.
see this screenshot attached showing the message sent-back by the person who received it.

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Hi, just to add some precisions about the special characters. A lot of them, like "ê", "ã", "ÿ", are 
extremely reducing the available length of a sms which then is transform to a mms very soon. After few 
tries, it appears that these characters are counting for 250 (!!!) "normal" characters.
A fix for this issue will be greatly appreciated by all european Android users!
Thanks in advance.

Same problem with HTC G2 in France (SFR)

Same problem here HTC Magic in France (SFR) CRB43
Looks like it happens with long SMS with accentuated chars

Same problem here, HTC Magic (SFR, France), it is not happening everytime.

Same problem here HTC Magic (SFR, France). IMHO, it may be related to theses issues :

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2600
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2630

For at least one occurrence of this bug i think found the cause : the SMS was too 
long to hold in just one SMS, the first SMS was just finely encoded using 7bit GSM 
Alphabet encoding, but the second SMS contained a 'ç' which is not included in GSM 
alphabet (only 'Ç' is) thus android used UTF16 for this second SMS this caused the 
recipient phone to display the content of the second SMS interleaved with '@' chars 
(because '@' is char 0x00)
Looks like what's puzzling other phones is that Android doesnt keep a constant 
encoding among the SMS of a multipart message

As a side note i must say that in France, other phones do NOT use UTF-16 to encode 
'ç' and even somehow manage to fit it into a single 7bit space in GSM alphabet so 
they're not even using an escaped char, i dont how they encode it exactly tho

As a follow-up to my previous i checked the GSM specs:
in 3GPP TS 23.040 V9.0.0 (2009-06), section 9.2.3.24.1	"Concatenated Short Messages" 
:
"The TP elements in the SMS SUBMIT PDU, apart from TP MR, TP-SRR, TP UDL and TP UD, 
should remain unchanged for each SM which forms part of a concatenated SM, otherwise 
this may lead to irrational behaviour. "
and these TP elements from the SMS-SUBMIT PDU include TP DCS (TP Data Coding Scheme) 
which define the encoding of the text, thus it is indeed in the GSM spcifications 
that encoding must not change between the different parts of multi-part SMS.
This needs to be fixed

Sorry for the 3 posts in a row but i just checked all my failed SMS and the example in 
the picture sent by nedelec.e and for all of them it looks like what's causing it is 
what i described :
there's always only one part of the splited message which contains non GSM-alphabet 
char. In nedelec.e's picture i believe the three dots is actually the unicode char 
containing three dots ant not three separate '.'

Indeed, I ran some tests, I saw this occur when using the ê char (ç should work but I 
didn't try the cap one) and having a sms longer than 160 letters.

@gilwooden : I can't confirm the "3 dots in 1 char" since I didn't fin a way to
re-edit the received SMS (it would be usefull to be able to transfer received SMS
though), but I agree with your idea when I see the number of accentuated chars in my
message. 

The fact is that it is :
- quite annoying not to put accentuated chars since the dictionnary bar proposes the
properly syntaxed words along typing.
- abnormal that these chars "cost" so much in SMS, companies like SFR never warn
about the fact that typing in proper language can cost more than using abbreviations
or language-error-syntax.

I don't see why the priority of this bug is set medium, it is mostly annoying and
reveals an incorrect information from french phone companies (and other I guess)

@nedelec.e you can try to edit your original SMS by long-pressing it in the 
conversation view then you should be able to copy the content of the message and 
paste it somewhere else where you can edit.

You can actually use accents i think, at least è é ù ì ò Ç Å å Æ æ ß É Ä Ö Ñ Ü ä ö ñ 
ü à. Note the absence of ç ô ê ã ÿ á í ó ú which are the character you should avoid 
and which have been quoted by others as causing the problem

Indeed this bug is should have a higher priority than medium since this is a really 
big problem for most latin scripts containing non GSM alphabet chars such as spanish, 
french, german, italian....

I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use a HTC Magic and my carrier is SFR. Thanks in advance to work on the resolution
of this problem."

HTC Magic Switzerland - Same problem, very annoying !!!

Ditto here, HTC Magic in Denmark, with 3 as carrier

Hi, same problem HTC Magic (CRB43) Vodafone Spain, I started to learn Mandarin and
pictorial... :-)

Hi, same problem in france with HTC G2, Carrier : SFR

I also have this problem with my HTC magic and SFR (France). 

I have this problem too, using an HTC Magic with SFR (France).

Same thing on HTC Magic in Belgium (Proximus)...

I have this problem since I upgraded to Cupcake (HTC Dream G1 in Switzerland). Worked
with 1.0 and 1.1 as far as I remember.

I have the same problem on Cupcake (HTC Magic in Switzerland).

All the same, Android 1.5, HTC Magic, switzerland !
And I almost burn in flame my provider... my bad !

Same terrible issue discovered. Makes me really think of switching to iPhone. How can 
this happen in an item like HTC magic? supposed to be high performance? Very 
disappointed. :(

As someone said, it's the special letters which cause this problem.
Just see by yourself : In vertical mode (so you can see the number of characters) 
write for instance the word "hello". then space, and write a ê (long time on the "e" 
letter). You counter will go from 154/160 to 63/70.

When you write a long message and you add an ê, you message go from 130/160 (5) to 
49/70 (9). The number in parenthesis is the number of textos...

Now, I removed all special characters (especially accents like ^ and ¨ ), and all my 
friends say : Hey, it's good, I don't receive "square" or "@" anymore.


Comme quelqu'un l'a dit précédemment, ce sont les caractères spéciaux du 
type "ê","ü",€,ç qui causent tous ces problèmes.

Voyez par vous même : En mode vertical (pour pouvoir voir le compteur de 
caractères), écrivez un texto "hello " avec un espace. rajoutez un ê, le compteur 
passe de 154/160 (1) à 63/70 (3).
Votre message passe donc de 1texto à 3textos.

Maintenant, je supprime tous les caractères spéciaux (surtout les trémats et accents 
circonflexes) de mes messages. Mes amis me disent même : Hey, presque la première 
fois que je reçois un texto de ta part sans de "petits carrés" ou "@"...!!

Bonjour,

j'ai le même problème avec samsung galaxy
I have a same problem with samsung galaxy

I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use a samsung galaxy  and my carrier is bouygues . Thanks in advance to work on the
resolution of this problem."

Same here with the HTC Hero... Very annoying issue....

I have this problem too, using an HTC Magic with SFR (France).

Hi! I have the same problem. I just bought my HTC Hero with "Bouygues telecom"
(France) and my friends receive my SMS with squares in! [][][][][][][][]
The problem occurs randomly . . .  But this is verry problematic because i use SMS
every day.For the moment i cant say if the problem come from "special carracters" or
because i send very long messages (most of the time, at least 2 by SMS)

We need help

Hello,
I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use a HTC Magic and my carrier is Orange Switzerland.

Thanks in advance to work on the resolution of this problem.

I have the same problem with my HTC HERO.
When i try to write "ça va" ( as an example ) the ç make the message completly not
readable for the receiver... :( HELP!

I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use a HTC Magic and my carrier is SFR (France).

Thanks to work to fix this problem :)

Hello,

I have the same issue. 
My SMS wasn't too long but it contained a "ê". 
It has been seen like 3 SMS by my phone.
My friend received a sms full of little squares.

My phone is an HTC Hero used with SFR carrier in France.

Thanks in advance for finding a solution.

Same here, using an HTC Hero.
My carrier is SFR ( Vodafone ) and I live in France.

Same using HTC Hero in France with SFR.
The personn who received the sms can't read it.

Thank you

The same for me when y use a "ç","ê","ô", etc...
HTC Magic with SFR in France.

The same problem happens with HTC Magic Vodaphone UK. If you try to add the preconfigured 3 dots at the end 
"..." the txt length jumps to 3. I guess this is because it suddenly chops the length of each txt to 60 characters 
instead of 160. Let's hope they fix this bug asap as it is truly irritating!

cheers

We're in August... It's been month ! And still it's a Medium priority bug... Do they
know how many non-english languages can't send decent sms because of this bug ? 

... i write sms in French, Portugese and Spanish... three languages that often use
special chars... And I had to turn off the auto-completion/correction of words since
it made my sms go fuzzy...

:-[ 

Lol! You may want to try Handcent SMS (http://www.handcent.com/index.php). I've been
told that it does work around this bug, andit seems a cool free app.

ChompSMS also seems to work (http://www.chompsms.com/), though I've not personally
tested any of those apps.

Tell us if they work!

:)

"Hello,

I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use a HTC Hero and my carrier is Bouygues Telecom (France). Thanks in advance to
work on the resolution of this problem."

Same issue here.

HTC Magic (Vodafone)
firmware 1.5
kernel: 2.6.27-00393-g6607056

Steps to reproduce:
- Write a long SMS that gets converted to MMS. If you erase some characters to go back to SMS 
lenght boundaries the resulting text to the receiver is a mix of symbols.
Copy-Pasting the sent text (with the right lenght) gives an identical result.
If the receiver sends that corrupted sms back, on the android device those symbols appears like 
KANJI.

Other ways to have the same problem: using special characters like capital grave chars and 
others or using emotes from the UI menu.

HTC Magic
firmware 1.5

long sms are unreadable from their recipients! It's not accetable that a phone
released by months has this kind of problem!!! I am very disappointed and there is no
update at the moment to correct this hudge bug! Even a 20$ nokia can do that without
problem :S
This is my first and last android phone, if you want a real smartphone with basic
functions that works buy an iphone!

Same with HTC Hero. Poland ask for help as well! It's critical bug gents...

Tracked within Google as 2040561

bad bad bad....I can't believe it's not yet fixed !!!

 Issue 2600  has been merged into this issue.

Same problem with my htc magic in Belgium.

it's just unbelievable...
Pay 450€ for a phone and not being able to send correctly simple sms!
Very nice for all european users...

Same problem - HTC magic with SFR in France.
NOT COOL. I'd prefer write correctly...
I'll try the free apps, but it's right it's a shame it takes THAT long (3 months for
now) to solve a problem like how to send correct SMS.

same issue on a htc hero, annoying !

same issue on a htc hero, annoying !

Htc is also working (investigating) on this issue. They will deal with it shortly I think. Stay tuned.

Same problem as anybody here with my HTC hero in Belgium (Mobile Vikings)... I hope 
if we keep on reporting the problem here, google will address this problem with a 
higher priority.

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I have the same problem on my HTC Hero from Belgium (Mobistar).
Sometimes there are @, sometimes there are japanese characters or squares ...

Any idea on when this issue will be fixed? The problem is rather severe. It affects at least FR, ES, PL (and 
possibly DE). As there is no workaround, one just cannot write SMS that are understandable.

Thanks for getting this one fixed. 

If you read, it's written "Target-Donut", so it will be fixed when Donut is out.

I have the same problem on my HTC Magic from Switzerland (Swisscom).
Sometimes there are @, sometimes there are japanese characters or squares ...

Same problem with a HTC Hero bought in France last august

Same problem here. HTC Magic from Portugal.

Hello, have the same problem on my HTC dream, using handcent sms and the genuine 
android sms version. Will be any solution for it ?

J'ai le meme probleme sur HTC HERO; SMS ILLISIBLE
VALERIE- PARIS

Even after an update of the firmware, the issue remains de same.
I am using an HTC HERO on Swisscom network. And doesn't matter if I send sms's to
Switzerland or on other networks... I just don't understand why the accents are not
just blocked or I don't know. We all hope to get a solution fast...

Same problem with Hungarian characters (á, é, ö, ő, ü, ű, ó, ú etc.). If any of these
inserted, the possible sms length decreases to approx. 60.

"If any of these inserted, the possible sms length decreases to approx. 60."

This is standard behaviour on any mobile phone in the world.

"This is standard behaviour on any mobile phone in the world..." Except all (Nokia)
mobiles I previously had...

Same problem with an Italian HTC Magic

I've tried now 1.6 and it is still not solved. At least in Portuguese it is not
working correctly all the time...

Same problem with an French HTC Magic

Same problem with HTC hero - France. Network : SFR

Hello,

I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use Samsung galaxie and my carrier is Bouygue. Thanks in advance to work on the
resolution of this problem."

Same problem with an French HTC Magic

Same here... HTC Magic, SFR, Donut (1.6)... This donut taste bad. We need a patch (not a workaround) !

Same here... HTC Magic, SFR, Donut (1.6)... This donut taste bad. We need a patch (not a workaround) !

Same problem here. HTC Hero, T-Mobile, Netherlands.

I don't understand why google coders don't re-open this ticket. Even a 30euro mobile
phone is able to send multiple accented messages without any problems and these
high-end phones can't. I'm very disappointed with this lack of support. 

Hello,

I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use a GALAXY (Samsung)and my carrier is Bouygtel (France). Thanks in advance to
work on the resolution of this problem.

Hi from Spain,

I've just checked it with my recently upgraded to 1.6 HTC Magic, and this "bug" is
still there. Hope they fix it soon!

Cheers

Today I had an update to Donut (Android 1.6) and problem is still there. Polish
characters + long message. Please, fix it.

I can't believe this bug was reported in May and is still not fixed...

Hello,

same problem here, HTC Magic Proximus... This lack of support is very disturbing, how
to explain at someone who receives my sms that my 450 € phone can't send sms... isn't
it ironic?

Still not working...

This bug is so annoying ! 

Can someone from Google confirm that the bugfix is supposed to be in the Donut
release ? Because I've made the update and the issue still exists.

European people use accented characters a lot. Please, we really need a fix asap.
I don't want to have to say : "Yeah, Android is a revolutionary mobile OS... except
that you can't send readable sms"  :/

What do you need to reopen this thread ? A bunch of Apple fan boys making Android
ridiculous all over the internet because of that ?

Hello,

Same problem for me. I have a HTC Magic under Android Donut 1.6 build DRC92. My
provider is SFR (France).

I already had this problem with Cupcake and hoped that it will be solved with Donut.
But I had the upgrade yesterday and unfortunately, the problem is still here !!!

I always promoted Android phone to iPhone users but i start to think about changing
my mind.

What's wrong with Google Dev team ? Are European users not important ?

Regards,

Hello,

I though that this bug would be corrected with Donut.

It's a shame that this kind of bug make the android phones less powerfull than phones
that are 10 years old >_<

After two months I got used to this bug so much it's no longer annoying :D (on HTC
wich comes with Donate from the begining). At least I spent less money on texts as
they require less space without those characters :P

Always look on the bright side!


PS Ohh come on Google! It's the highest time for some resolution to be found! Don't
make us wait until x-mass and its miracles ;-)


Best regards.

Seriously???
Is android that bad you can't correct such a bug in 5 months???
And what "Closed: Aug 20" means ?
Do you, at least, work on it?
I'd like to write my texto correctly, I'm tired of this bad spelling (which can make
them hard to understand).

Hello,
I encounter this issue too. Long SMS are unreadable by their recipients.
I use a HTC MAGIC with cupcake and my carrier is SFR in France. Thanks in advance to 
work on the resolution of this problem.

My carrier is SFR (France) and I have a HTC Magic (Sapphire/MyTouch 3G) and I have
the same issues with the SMS.

Same issue with Donut

I'm sick of that bug... my carrier (SFR in France) still didn't made the update to
Donut... And worse... people with donut said they still had the bug. 

Time to reopen this issue ?  

Same issue on an Vodafone HTC Magic Donut 1.6 in Belgium (with message in French)

Re-opening as this was supposed to have been fixed in donut but obviously wasn't.

thanks for finally re-opening

All right, it does appear indeed that Android still has a bug in that area. We think
we've identified what the issue might be, and we're hoping to have a fix in a future
release.

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I sent a patch for this for review https://review.source.android.com/#change,12326
As i could not install a patched build on some real hardware i tested using the 
emulator with -debug-radio to get a dump of the sent PDUs : they looked fine (i used 
PDU-Spy to decode them) and kept a consistent encoding for all the parts of the same 
multipart sms.

Same problem as all spanish, portuguese, french and other languages users: My spanish
friends receive my SMS's with undertable characters. Some of them asked me "Is this a
joke or what?". It's not a joke, I replied, is my fabulous "Android" phone!!! It have
GPS, WIFI, GPRS, touch screen ... but it can't send my SMSs correctly!!! Fantastic.

:(

Try Motorola DEXT or CLIQ.  It works great.

I never encountered this problem about long sms because I understood the problem of 
special characters (ç and ê in my case) using a huge amount of characters since my 
P990i from SE, thus I avoid to use them. As someone wrote in this thread, the 
problem is maybe not about Android...

"Comment 88 by justjev, Sep 22, 2009 "If any of these inserted, the possible sms 
length decreases to approx. 60."

This is standard behaviour on any mobile phone in the world."

So I imagine that Google could correct this issue about different type of encoding 
and these unreadable sms, but could they really resolve the issue about special 
characters reducing an sms lenght ?? I would love it !

HTC Hero, Orange Switzerland.

> So I imagine that Google could correct this issue about different type of encoding 
and these unreadable sms, but could they really resolve the issue about special 
characters reducing an sms lenght ??

Personally on my old Sagem MyX3-2 special characters such as ê, ... only count as one
character of the sms. So I guess that this problem really comes from Android, and
isn't the "standard behaviour on any mobile phone in the world"...

People are now able to read correctly the messages that I send with special
characters (ê ç ...), but the number of characters is still very huge. So if I put a
"ç" then it's double the number of text messages sent, and it's a big issue when I
want to send the same message to several persons, then I have quickly 40 SMS sent in
once instead of 10 messages..... I hope it will be fixed in Eclair as someone from
Google said :-)

Thanks.

@jarodirc:
I do not know which build you tested that worked with 'ç' (not 'Ç', 'Ç' has allways 
worked since it's GSM Alphabet) but on my 1.6 (DRC92) phone it's still not working.
But i know it depends on the recipient phone : some accept varying encoding. i just 
tested on a Sagem RG512 that received a problematic SMS properly but i did the same 
test on a Nokia 6500 and the bug was here.

You will see this bug only if :
* your sms is split into multiple sms parts
* you use problematic characters in some but not all of the sms parts
* the recipient decodes all messages using the encoding from the first message (which 
is valid according to the GSM specs)

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 Issue 4332  has been merged into this issue.

I have the same problem with my Samsung Galaxy with Bouygues as carrier (French
telecommunications company):  my sms are not totally readable by the addressees.  I
read that the Galaxy may not be upgraded to Eclair:  if this is confirmed, will this
mean that I will have to send all my sms without special characters?  I don't see the
interest in having unlimited text messages in this case.

Could you please focus on this issue?

This is fixed in the eclair branch and will be included in future eclair-based releases.

Good news :D
Mr JBQ, you're the man !

Thanks a lot for the work you did, especially on the AOSP :D

I'm not the one who did the SMS fix, don't thank me for this one :)